What does Macho Brace Do?!

legendary fisherman1 · 8th April 2003, 07:36 PM

^ Topic. Thanks in advance.

iron_reaver · 8th April 2003, 07:37 PM

doubles effort points gained every lvl

Powarun · 8th April 2003, 07:40 PM

I feel like a newbie, but oh well better late than never. What do you mean by effort points. Are they like special attack is 35

Blue Kirin · 8th April 2003, 07:43 PM

Where do you get the macho brace?

legendary fisherman1 · 8th April 2003, 07:52 PM

Winstrate family above Mauville.

Blue Kirin · 8th April 2003, 07:54 PM

So, after you fight them, who do you talk to?

Omega Red · 8th April 2003, 08:12 PM

The old hag who said she would smack you.

Blue Kirin · 8th April 2003, 08:16 PM

Hey, can you just equip the macho brace right before the pokemon grows levels and still reap the benefits or do you have to have it on for a while?

The Muffin Man · 8th April 2003, 08:42 PM

Umm...Macho brace "raises attack at the cost of speed"...
it's not an effort point booster. Otherwise, Hariyama's speed is higher than 86 at lvl 40 because EVERYTHING seems to out-run my Breloom with the brace..

Carbonite4 · 8th April 2003, 08:45 PM

It's like this...

When your Pokemon grows a level, his stats get boosted, except Speed. Speed gets a below normal boost. Eg, you grow another level, and all of your stats are raised by 4 points, except Speed, which is raised 1 point.

I think that's how it works.

Anyway, I attached it to my Grovyle at level 27, and he's a level 50 Sceptile now, and Proteins, Zincs, etc. don't work on him. Hmm....I think the Macho Brace did that, but I'm not sure.

:: One :: · 8th April 2003, 09:23 PM

None have answered this quite right yet.

Alright,

Macho Brace doubles the amount of Effort Points you recieve from the opponent's pokemon, saving you time in maxing out your Effort Points by reducing the number of battles you have to fight. The disadvantage is, that it reduces your speed by half while you're wearing it, so the speed reduction is NOT PERMANENT.

This explains why Muffin Man's Breloom can't keep up and Carbonite4's Sceptile can't take vitamins, his Effort Points are likely to be maxed or close to being maxed.

Kohdok · 8th April 2003, 09:30 PM

I think it has to do with the time you leave it on there...

I once gave it to my Rayquaza and left it there for a few days in my party (It became my designated FLYer) using it in battle here and there...when it finally reached level 71, its stats exploded (7 Special Attack points in one level?...

) I think it slowly but surely increases the amount of stat points you'll gain when a pokemon levels up. Putting the Macho Brace on right before it levels up does absolutly nothing. It takes about a day for a stat to go up by one point due to the Macho Brace. If it allowed double points when it leveled up at the cost of only 3/4ths of its speed(At ;east that's what I think, considering Rayquaza was unable to outrun a Walrein and Registeel at level 51 couldn't even escape from a Magikarp...), it would be a little too cheap...

stickachu · 8th April 2003, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by :: One ::
None have answered this quite right yet.

Alright,

Macho Brace doubles the amount of Effort Points you recieve from the opponent's pokemon, saving you time in maxing out your Effort Points by reducing the number of battles you have to fight. The disadvantage is, that it reduces your speed by half while you're wearing it, so the speed reduction is NOT PERMANENT.

This explains why Muffin Man's Breloom can't keep up and Carbonite4's Sceptile can't take vitamins, his Effort Points are likely to be maxed or close to being maxed.

I can second this.

Cofish · 8th April 2003, 09:39 PM

macho braces does the same thing as Pokerus except the Pokerus also double the effort points for speed.

:: One :: · 8th April 2003, 09:46 PM

Don't confuse anyone Kohdok

I'm 110% correct in my answer. Period.

Blue Kirin · 9th April 2003, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by :: One ::
Don't confuse anyone Kohdok I'm 110% correct in my answer. Period.

Right, so does anyone know if it matters whether you put it on right before a pokemon is about to go up a level? Or do you have to keep it on for a while like Kohdok says?

ace · 9th April 2003, 08:52 AM

So I can put it on something, train it to level 100, then take it off and speed will be normal, as if I had trained it uo normally, but the other stats will be higher than normal, as if i had used vitamins on it?

2. So if i leave macho brace on until level 100, it would have raised all stats more except speed, staying normal, and had used speed raising vitamins earlier, all of it's stats will be well rounded and high?

Just to clear it up, thx.

Aegiso´Fer · 9th April 2003, 12:14 PM

Now, the Macho Brace ONLY reduces the speed while in battle (like if you have been attacked by a Scary Face or something prior the fight), but still collects the EV for speed, thus, NOT modifiing the final value of it. This means that if your poke has 120 Speed points and it´s wearing the macho, his speed drops to 60, BUT, let´s assume that he defeats -something that gives 3 Effort Points for speed-, he´ll still receive the 6 points for Speed, so, if he grews up ,let´s assume that his speed climbs to 162 thx to the 6 EV previously received, but if he still haves the macho, the "in battle" speed will be of 81, going up to 162 after you remove the macho.

In other words, as far as i know, Macho Brace it´s not perjudicial at all...

Now, about "the it won´t have any effect with vitamins", that is because vitamins in RBYGSC boosted the stat experience of the Pokey, instead, now each vitamin boosts the Effort Points/Value of the matching stat by 10 points. This mean that if you want an EV of 88 in attack, you´ll have to give your poke 8 Protein and then fight 8 pokes (max) for the remaining points.
BUT, you cannot give a poke more than 10~11 (this means between 100 and 110 EV in that stat) vitamins per stat, neither being allowed to give him more than 51 Vitamins (or the top of 510 EVs).

Hope that helped...and that someone understanded it O.o

Shuckle · 9th April 2003, 01:53 PM

So apart for the temporary in-battle drop in speed there is no 'negative' to equiping a PKMN with the macho brace?

In fact it's best to use it on your PKMN as soon as you get it for as long as you can?

Beagleman80 · 27th June 2009, 06:46 AM

None have answered this quite right yet.

Alright,

Macho Brace doubles the amount of Effort Points you recieve from the opponent's pokemon, saving you time in maxing out your Effort Points by reducing the number of battles you have to fight. The disadvantage is, that it reduces your speed by half while you're wearing it, so the speed reduction is NOT PERMANENT.

This explains why Muffin Man's Breloom can't keep up and Carbonite4's Sceptile can't take vitamins, his Effort Points are likely to be maxed or close to being maxed.

I agree with that answer as well.

Beagleman80 · 27th June 2009, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by :: One ::

None have answered this quite right yet.

Alright,

Macho Brace doubles the amount of Effort Points you recieve from the opponent's pokemon, saving you time in maxing out your Effort Points by reducing the number of battles you have to fight. The disadvantage is, that it reduces your speed by half while you're wearing it, so the speed reduction is NOT PERMANENT.

This explains why Muffin Man's Breloom can't keep up and Carbonite4's Sceptile can't take vitamins, his Effort Points are likely to be maxed or close to being maxed.

I agree with that answer as well.

Blademaster · 27th June 2009, 01:05 PM

Posting in a 5 year-old topic, double-posting, agreeing with yourself which suggests multiple accounts...

Yep, you'll be banned soon, too. The joys of increased activity on TPM never stop...

Number1ChanseyFan · 27th June 2009, 02:07 PM

Closing thread...

8th April 2003, 07:36 PM	# 1 (permalink)
legendary fisherman1 Junior Trainer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 265	What does Macho Brace Do?! ^ Topic. Thanks in advance.

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iron_reaver Beginning Trainer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 133	What does Macho Brace Do?! doubles effort points gained every lvl

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Powarun Advanced Trainer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,411	What does Macho Brace Do?! I feel like a newbie, but oh well better late than never. What do you mean by effort points. Are they like special attack is 35 __________________ If something is wrong, please say so.

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Blue Kirin Junior Trainer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 373	What does Macho Brace Do?! Where do you get the macho brace?

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legendary fisherman1 Junior Trainer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 265	What does Macho Brace Do?! Winstrate family above Mauville.

8th April 2003, 07:54 PM	# 6 (permalink)
Blue Kirin Junior Trainer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 373	What does Macho Brace Do?! So, after you fight them, who do you talk to?

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Omega Red Beginning Trainer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 63	What does Macho Brace Do?! The old hag who said she would smack you.

8th April 2003, 08:16 PM	# 8 (permalink)
Blue Kirin Junior Trainer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 373	What does Macho Brace Do?! Hey, can you just equip the macho brace right before the pokemon grows levels and still reap the benefits or do you have to have it on for a while?

8th April 2003, 08:42 PM	# 9 (permalink)
The Muffin Man Banned Join Date: Aug 2000 Posts: 10,256	What does Macho Brace Do?! Umm...Macho brace "raises attack at the cost of speed"... it's not an effort point booster. Otherwise, Hariyama's speed is higher than 86 at lvl 40 because EVERYTHING seems to out-run my Breloom with the brace..

8th April 2003, 08:45 PM	# 10 (permalink)
Carbonite4 Cool Trainer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 917	What does Macho Brace Do?! It's like this... When your Pokemon grows a level, his stats get boosted, except Speed. Speed gets a below normal boost. Eg, you grow another level, and all of your stats are raised by 4 points, except Speed, which is raised 1 point. I think that's how it works. Anyway, I attached it to my Grovyle at level 27, and he's a level 50 Sceptile now, and Proteins, Zincs, etc. don't work on him. Hmm....I think the Macho Brace did that, but I'm not sure.

8th April 2003, 09:23 PM	# 11 (permalink)
:: One :: Beginning Trainer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 170	What does Macho Brace Do?! None have answered this quite right yet. Alright, Macho Brace doubles the amount of Effort Points you recieve from the opponent's pokemon, saving you time in maxing out your Effort Points by reducing the number of battles you have to fight. The disadvantage is, that it reduces your speed by half while you're wearing it, so the speed reduction is NOT PERMANENT. This explains why Muffin Man's Breloom can't keep up and Carbonite4's Sceptile can't take vitamins, his Effort Points are likely to be maxed or close to being maxed.

8th April 2003, 09:30 PM	# 12 (permalink)
Kohdok Junior Trainer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 459	What does Macho Brace Do?! I think it has to do with the time you leave it on there... I once gave it to my Rayquaza and left it there for a few days in my party (It became my designated FLYer) using it in battle here and there...when it finally reached level 71, its stats exploded (7 Special Attack points in one level?... ) I think it slowly but surely increases the amount of stat points you'll gain when a pokemon levels up. Putting the Macho Brace on right before it levels up does absolutly nothing. It takes about a day for a stat to go up by one point due to the Macho Brace. If it allowed double points when it leveled up at the cost of only 3/4ths of its speed(At ;east that's what I think, considering Rayquaza was unable to outrun a Walrein and Registeel at level 51 couldn't even escape from a Magikarp...), it would be a little too cheap...

8th April 2003, 09:39 PM	# 14 (permalink)
Cofish Beginning Trainer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 165	What does Macho Brace Do?! macho braces does the same thing as Pokerus except the Pokerus also double the effort points for speed.

8th April 2003, 09:46 PM	# 15 (permalink)
:: One :: Beginning Trainer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 170	What does Macho Brace Do?! Don't confuse anyone Kohdok I'm 110% correct in my answer. Period.

9th April 2003, 08:52 AM	# 17 (permalink)
ace Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 467	What does Macho Brace Do?! So I can put it on something, train it to level 100, then take it off and speed will be normal, as if I had trained it uo normally, but the other stats will be higher than normal, as if i had used vitamins on it? 2. So if i leave macho brace on until level 100, it would have raised all stats more except speed, staying normal, and had used speed raising vitamins earlier, all of it's stats will be well rounded and high? Just to clear it up, thx.

27th June 2009, 02:07 PM	# 23 (permalink)
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Aegiso´Fer Beginning Trainer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 99	What does Macho Brace Do?! Now, the Macho Brace ONLY reduces the speed while in battle (like if you have been attacked by a Scary Face or something prior the fight), but still collects the EV for speed, thus, NOT modifiing the final value of it. This means that if your poke has 120 Speed points and it´s wearing the macho, his speed drops to 60, BUT, let´s assume that he defeats -something that gives 3 Effort Points for speed-, he´ll still receive the 6 points for Speed, so, if he grews up ,let´s assume that his speed climbs to 162 thx to the 6 EV previously received, but if he still haves the macho, the "in battle" speed will be of 81, going up to 162 after you remove the macho. In other words, as far as i know, Macho Brace it´s not perjudicial at all... Now, about "the it won´t have any effect with vitamins", that is because vitamins in RBYGSC boosted the stat experience of the Pokey, instead, now each vitamin boosts the Effort Points/Value of the matching stat by 10 points. This mean that if you want an EV of 88 in attack, you´ll have to give your poke 8 Protein and then fight 8 pokes (max) for the remaining points. BUT, you cannot give a poke more than 10~11 (this means between 100 and 110 EV in that stat) vitamins per stat, neither being allowed to give him more than 51 Vitamins (or the top of 510 EVs). Hope that helped...and that someone understanded it O.o

9th April 2003, 01:53 PM	# 19 (permalink)
Shuckle Junior Trainer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 310	What does Macho Brace Do?! So apart for the temporary in-battle drop in speed there is no 'negative' to equiping a PKMN with the macho brace? In fact it's best to use it on your PKMN as soon as you get it for as long as you can?

27th June 2009, 06:46 AM	# 20 (permalink)
Beagleman80 Beginning Trainer Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 2	Re: What does Macho Brace Do?! None have answered this quite right yet. Alright, Macho Brace doubles the amount of Effort Points you recieve from the opponent's pokemon, saving you time in maxing out your Effort Points by reducing the number of battles you have to fight. The disadvantage is, that it reduces your speed by half while you're wearing it, so the speed reduction is NOT PERMANENT. This explains why Muffin Man's Breloom can't keep up and Carbonite4's Sceptile can't take vitamins, his Effort Points are likely to be maxed or close to being maxed. I agree with that answer as well.

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