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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    And yet now he is faced with a decision on the Keystone pipeline, he cannot coward out on it now, he has to either piss off the Environmentalists, or piss off Unions and the American people.
    Roy, that is one of the few issues where I would say, go along with the GOP. I happen to think that the pipeline would benefit the country in the long run.

    However, I do think that one major factor in the deal, the reluctance the GOP has to tax the rich, is something that they should be held accountable for.

    And by the way, I think that the past couple of days has proven beyond a doubt that Obama is NOT a coward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Sage View Post
    Roy, that is one of the few issues where I would say, go along with the GOP. I happen to think that the pipeline would benefit the country in the long run.

    However, I do think that one major factor in the deal, the reluctance the GOP has to tax the rich, is something that they should be held accountable for.
    “I personally don’t believe we ought to be raising taxes or cutting spending until we get this economy off the ground. If we cut government spending, which I normally would be very inclined to do when the deficit’s this big, with interest rates already near zero you can’t get the benefits out of it."

    You know who said that? Bill Clinton.

    “So he’s absolutely right, the last thing you want to do is raise taxes in the middle of a recession because that would just suck up – take more demand out of the economy and put business further in a hole.”

    You know who said that? Barack Obama

    The Democrats have taken this tax the rich thing and extended it to fiscal stupidity, you want to raise taxes? Sure lets do it, and it will damage our economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Sage View Post
    And by the way, I think that the past couple of days has proven beyond a doubt that Obama is NOT a coward.
    How so? Obama said that if Congress included the Keystone deal he would veto it. Then he backed away. He also said he wanted a 1 year extension, he caved for 2 months. How is that not cowardly? He backed up and backed up on this deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkestLight
    The eff is so tough about it? Do it. Then build environmental Labs (or contract one to build another laboratory near the pipeline...) to help with testing of soils and water and all other things to help the environment stay at at a stable level with the pipelines existence. Really don't see how this is a problem, but maybe I'm being too general. :/ Again-non politically inclined mind talking...
    Because its a election year and the President is trying to get support from the Psycho Environmentalists, which is why he wanted to put of the decision until after the election.
    Last edited by Roy Karrde; 22nd December 2011 at 07:05 PM.

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