Mr Popo's Happy Funtimes Lounge (Dragonball SU Lounge)

[Master Rudy]

Ok....right now I'm waiting on either a Kura or Zaito post with the eventual ass kicking that the Kwali's are about to receive
Following that I'm going to have Shitagi make his way to the time chamber along with his Dragon Ball before everyone gets wrapped up in all the nasty things to come. One thing I am wondering about is power levels of Kura and Zaito (and Sandor if CEB is still in this) following that training. I know we're not doing strict "your power level is higher than X but lower than Y" type crap provided common sense is used. However it would be helpful if I at least had something to work with. Heald if you can give me a ballpark figure of where you think they stand after an hour of training then that'd be great ^_~

[Heald]

Hmm, well as of my post, Zaito will be hovering about 7000-8000 just as a base, but this is the first chance since leaving the chamber that he has had chance to really cut loose, hence like when Goku first appeared to Nappa and Vegeta, he is going to need some time to get to full power, which, like Kuro said, will be between around 20000-25000, so enough to decisively destroy the Kwalis.

Also CEB, great you want to jump in, but since you've kind of been written out in the last few posts, you'll need to write yourself back in, but please only do so if you feel you are going to stay in the RPG right until the end. Your character WAS in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, so will be about as strong as Zaito and Kura ATM.

[Blademaster]

Following that I'm going to have Shitagi make his way to the time chamber along with his Dragon Ball before everyone gets wrapped up in all the nasty things to come.

Sorry, Rudy. But the 4-star Dragonball is still in Basawe's possession.

As I've said before, Basawe and Shitagi are going to have a little 'talk.' And Basawe isn't going to be asking for Shitagi's help in regards to the matter.

[Kuro Espeon]

, he is going to need some time to get to full power, which, like Kuro said, will be between around 20000-25000.

Err... Would Zaito really be at the same power level as Kura? o_o I'm not trying to god-mod or anything, but since Kura is a Saiyan, wouldn't her power level probably be higher than his? Ah well... I really don't care either way, I was just curious. It's not like they're fighting each other. XD

I also just remember that Kura still has HER Dragonball. I'm not sure what she's going to do with it, cause I don't know if she want to risk losing it during the fight, but she'd also be reluctant to give it to someone else. Maybe she'll entrust Basawe with it...

[Heald]

Bear in mind whilst humans are physically weaker, they can also pull off pretty amazing feats when they put their minds to it. The difference between Kura at full power and Zaito at full power is that Zaito will definitely not be able to sustain being at full power for as long, most likely only when performing his most powerful attacks. Think back to the Cell saga - Super Saiyan Vegeta was being toyed with by Android 18, yet Tien, although probably weaker than Vegeta, could beat down Imperfect Cell for a brief period whilst at full-power. Think of it like this: Saiyan can rely on their brute strength and their physical power, whereas humans have to rely on technique and training in order to gain the edge.

[Kuro Espeon]

Bear in mind whilst humans are physically weaker, they can also pull off pretty amazing feats when they put their minds to it.

That is true. ;D

So apparently the voices in Van's head have some beef with Kura. O_o I have no idea what it could be. Should be interesting to find out.... XD

[Asilynne]

SARAH NO give it to me ^-^ KURA DOESNT KNOW WHAT YOU DO lol Please please because she would ask for it <3 in the nicest way a saiyan can ;D

[Blademaster]

Oh, sure. Hand over one of the plot coupons to the second-most greedy individual in the RPG as opposed to the guy everyone thinks is too piss-poor weak and nicey-nice to the Earthlings to pose any real problems. Smart thinking on Kura's part.

[Asilynne]

Hey we have history together, she was my faithful bodyguard XDD And dont you forget who let you carry it in the first place! I could have held onto it after I destroyed that forest ;D

[Blademaster]

Or she could just say "Fuck you." to us both and keep it as a means to her own ends. She's not just a puppet like... I dunno, Sandor or something. She got motives too. Dead husband > dead king.

[Kuro Espeon]

*whistles innocently*

[Asilynne]

Sarah.....*whispers* trust me......

[Bear]

Give it to Hammer for shits and giggles.

Kura: Here take this
Hammer: Why?
Kura: Just take it
Hammer: why the fuck would you want me to have it?
Kura: DO IT BEFORE I STOMP YOUR GOOFY ASS
Hammer: ok...

[Master of Paradox]

Now, now. We're assuming she still has the thing to give away when the time comes...

[Asilynne]

Your right I could probably steal it before then

[Bear]

She knows I'll do the Running Man if she doesn't give it to me *evil grin*

[Master Rudy]

I royally fucking hate the combination of Internet Explorer and dial up. I was just about done typing up a post that would get the second group into the HTC when the son of a bitch crashed on me >_<
I'm unable to recover what I had and to be honest I'm a little too pissed to start over so I'm going to hold off for now. Most likely I'll get something posted a bit later this afternoon or tonight. If someone does happen to post before me then feel free to get everyone to the lookout but don't go sending Shitagi in just yet. I need him and his mother to talk to one another before he starts training. Also don't forget about Sandor and the fact that she's finishing up in there ^_~

[Blademaster]

Actually, she's already out.

[Master Rudy]

Well I know she's out already. Just tossing out a reminder to everyone else. Don't forget that Elf was gone for quite awhile.

[Bear]

So is it necessary for the rest of us to stick around for this fight, or should we go ahead into the HTC? Seems like Zaito and Kura have the situation well under control, and the rest of us are just floating there watching. What's the plan? Also Heald I sent you a message

[Heald]

I was under the impression you were all heading to the HTC and the consensus was Zaito and Kura would finish off the Kwalis. My last post is deliberately open-ended - the Kwalis are resilient bastards.

[Master of Paradox]

And now Van's gone and screwed it up. Just to make things more "entertaining".

Hey, at least he's actually affecting the story.

K-Trance Van's Theme.

[Heald]

I heartily approve of this twist. I have a few things in mind as to how this could develop.

[Bear]

Well shit we can't very well go into the chamber NOW can we?

[Heald]

I thought you guys were leaving anyway? Trust me, Zaito and Kura CAN handle this. After all, Van wouldn't hurt a fellow human...would he? 0_0;;

[Bear]

It just seems very un-DBZ like for a fight to break out between allies and then the rest of the group is like "k well y'all got this so we're gonna peace out bye"

[Master Rudy]

I thought you guys were leaving anyway? Trust me, Zaito and Kura CAN handle this. After all, Van wouldn't hurt a fellow human...would he? 0_0;;

Well as I originally intended I was going to have Shitagi and company in the time chamber BEFORE this latest development. However refer back to one of my previous posts in this topic for the reason why I held off. When you lose almost two hours worth of writing it's a major demotivator and mood killer :-/

In any case I should have something up in the next 1-3 hours. I've slowly been putting that post back together. I do want to point something out however. As of late I feel like in some ways that I am the one trying to move things along at certain points. Case in point is Zaito and Van showing up to the battle. At this point the second group that is suppose to be in the time chamber should have been en route. I made an attempt, got pissy and backed off for a moment. That one is on me. Even so that's five days.....plenty of time for Blade, Brandy or James to make a post moving out group forward.

I'm not trying to point fingers here but I guess what I'm saying is that at some points I feel like it's all falling on me to keep things going as far as the heroes are concerned. I sometimes look at this RPG and feel like if I don't post in it that nothing is going to move forward. The problem with that however is that this is not my RPG. This is in my mind equally Heald and Blade's RPG for being the creator and the main villian. Now granted I understand that this isn't the TPM RPG forum of 2003 when the majority of us were in high school. As a result most of us have commitments that come before posting in an RPG. I understand that it's no longer a time period where I can log in after being gone for five days and have to catch up on three to four days woth of posts. Even so I'd at least think that one of the three people playing character that Shitagi is grouped with could come up with something to move us forward in the span of five days. Instead I'm seeing MoP moving forward with his ideas and complaints that the group is now "stuck" at that battle. Remember guys......as long as it's only one or two posts I'm sure it's ok with Heald to backtrack a little. You don't have to go diving into this topic to complain about how your character is now stuck somewhere :-/

Speaking of MoP that was an awesome twist with Van. There's only one race in the Dragon Ball lore with that much hatred for Saiyans. I guess the real question now is this: is Van a Tuffle or is there something else at work here?

[Master of Paradox]

Speaking of MoP that was an awesome twist with Van. There's only one race in the Dragon Ball lore with that much hatred for Saiyans. I guess the real question now is this: is Van a Tuffle or is there something else at work here?

...what the heck's a Tuffle? (My DBZ knowledge is based mostly on the Budokai games and half-remembered Shonen Jump issues.)

I'm surprised there aren't more races with psychotic-level hatred towards Saiyans, given what they used to do for a living. Then again, I probably shouldn't be, since for a race to want vengence for that there'd have to be survivors.

[Master Rudy]

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Tuffle
For size comparison in that pic a Saiyan is on the left and a Tuffle is on the right. They look just like humans but are VERY small (even Krillin would be considered a giant among them)

In short they lived on Planet Vegeta along with the Saiyans and were wiped out in a war with them. Infomation about Baby and Dr. Raichi should be taken with a grain of salt since the info about those characters appeared in non-cannon materials (GT and an OVA/interactive game respectively). I'd imagine that it'd have been possible for maybe a few to somehow survive the purge. As far as races in the Dragon Ball universe goes the survivors have always been protrayed as the race with the most contempt and hatred for the Saiyans. Granted once again this is in non-cannon sources but think about it......if your race got wiped out by the Saiyans and you were one of a handful of survivors I think you'd be pretty pissed too.

Not sure exactly what you may have in mind MoP but perhaps this could fit in with Van's true background somehow ^_~

[Bear]

So I guess Retasu and Hammer will be training partners on the inside...should be an interesting clash of personalities . Am I the only non-Saiyan in there?

[Blademaster]

Shitagi's only a partial Saiyan. Mostly human. If nothing else, HE'S more of a freak than Hammer - at least Hammer isn't technically a product of bestiality.

[Master Rudy]

Shitagi's only a partial Saiyan. Mostly human. If nothing else, HE'S more of a freak than Hammer - at least Hammer isn't technically a product of bestiality.

A product of bestiality? Gee Blade.....thanks for that.....
In any case this is going to address a few key things that I've been meaning to either shed some light on (in regards to my character) or meaning to ask Heald (in regards to the RPG as a whole)

I just wanted to say that Blade's last post made me remember that I never did cover the exact amount of Shitagi's Saiyan blood. At some points I may have said half human out of force of habit. However here's how it breaks down. His grandparents were Goten and Bra who were both half. Therefore Shitagi's mother is 50/50. I assume at the point the exiles arrived that it wouldn't have left enough time for more hybrids to be born. Therefore Victoria would have married a Human. As a result this makes Shitagi 75/25 Human/Saiyan.

Now I have a feeling that fractions/percentages of Saiyan blood may eventually affect who can and can't go Super Saiyan (provided a potential sequel brings us far enough in power to reach it). As we know GT is a non-cannon material that depicted Pan (a quarter Saiyan) as unable to reach Super Saiyan. Yet in the final episode of GT it shows the decendants of Goku and Vegeta (who are only a SIXTEENTH Saiyan) both going Super Saiyan. All I can say in regards to that is WTF? Once again it's non-cannon but as a result it always eventually sparks the whole debate of how much Saiyan blood a character needs in order to transform and all the questions it brings. Is there a point that you lose the ability to become a Super Saiyan or does a character merely need to have Saiyans in their bloodline in order to reach it? Does it become harder to break that barrier as the blood becomes more diluted?

Now the RPG started up 100 years following the end of the Buu Saga. If Heald could give us an exact year then that'd be very helpful because for the whole RPG I haven't had the faintest idea when Ninjin took over, when the Saiyan exiles arrived, ect (it would also possibly determine if the current King Ninjin was Ninjin the First or the Second.....)

Finally in regards to Blade's last post. Earth in the Dragon Ball universe has no moon thanks to Piccolo during the Saiyan Saga. Now I honestly can't remember if it ever got restored at some point after that once none of the Saiyans had tails. However with quite a few Saiyans on the planet in the timeline of this RPG I'd have to assume there's no moon. After all when you consider that Earth has a full moon once a month it would kinda put the planet in a very bad state of affairs if all the Saiyans that lived there transformed into Oozaru form.

[Heald]

The Moon has been destroyed multiple times during DB and DBZ, but the last time I recall it being destroyed is by Piccolo during the Saiyan saga. Otherwise, it was never restored. Whenever the Earth has been destroyed, the wish to bring it back never brought back the Moon either and since there are all these Saiyans, the fact that none of them have gone Oozaru probably means that the Moon has never been restored. Probably a good thing.

As for Ninjin, well, since Frieza's grip on the planet would have been lost around 110 years before the events of the RPG, lets say this for the dating system: BR = Before Rothax (i.e. the beginning of the RPG). Note that these are rough estimates.

110BR - Frieza is defeated by Goku on Namek.
109BR - The Saiyans reclaim Planet Vegeta, civil war breaks out.
100BR - Majin Buu is killed.
99BR - The first of the Ninjin claims Planet Vegeta, renames it Ninjin. Saiyans begin to leave the planet to search for a new home.
90BR - The first Saiyan refugees of the war discover Earth and their long-thought dead prince Vegeta alive and well, although no longer the bloodthirsty tyrant he was once believed to be.
80BR - The Saiyans on Earth begin trafficking Saiyans to Earth in order to escape Ninjin.
10BR - Prince Ninjin III, or King Ninjin as he is known now, grandson of the original King Ninjin, takes control of the throne.
0BR - Rothax arrives on Earth. Stuff blows up. People gonna die.

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As for Super Saiyans, well I already said no Super Saiyans in this RPG, so as for blood dilution, it doesn't really matter at this moment in time. For the sequel, well, we can cover it then.

[Master Rudy]

So what's the status of the battle with the Kwalis? Nobody has posted anything new on that front since Shitagi's group finally got into the time chamber

[Heald]

I sent MoP a PM concerning it, I was waiting for his reply before I did anything, however he's away ATM but is meant to get back today, so hopefully I'll have a post up in the next couple of days.

[Kuro Espeon]

Working on a post. @_@ Sorry guys, it's been slow going. Real life keep interfering. *shakes fist in the air*

Though Kura's gonna have to divide her attention now. Not only does she have the Kwali's to deal with, but now she has a spastic Van at her throat. She's gonna have to be creative with this one...

[Master Rudy]

Seem like we stalled...... :-/
I'm trying to avoid double posting ATM. When one of you feel like moving this along then give me a shout. Until then I'll be in my trailer......
*puts on his shades and walks away*
AND WHERE THE HELL IS MY LATTE!!!!

[Kuro Espeon]

OK, DONE! Phew, glad that's over w-- what? The fight's not over yet? DAGNABBIT! XD

So yeah, I totally fail at writing fight scenes so this took me a while to finish. However, I do have a game plan. I figured I would leave that post there so that MoP has another chance to add to the Kura/Van fight and then I would have Kura finish it off after that (probably with her Onryou no Genkotsu - refer to Kura's profile for more info on this attack). As long as this is ok with MoP, I'll work with it. Don't worry, she won't kill him, just knock the sense back into him. Just in time for her to turn around and fight Kados...

[Master of Paradox]

Can't say I'm too thrilled with the plan there. After Van spent so long at right angles to everyone else, I've finally got him back in the story. Letting Kura knock him out now is basically shoving him back out of the footlights for who knows how long, and I might not be able to bring him forward again.

That, and my warning senses are going, "Don't job to the Saiyans! Look what happened to Krillin!"

I'm actually waiting for Heald to post Zaito's reaction to Van's assault on Kura before I make my next move.

[Kuro Espeon]

Well she doesn't HAVE to knock him out, lol. But I'm just curious as to how else she's supposed to stop him? XD

I don't care either way but it might help me if you let me in on what exactly you had planned so I could work with it. ;D