Vigoroth/Slaking

[Ultimate Charizard]

Is Vigoroth strong enough in itself to be a Decent Battler or Should i just evolve. Im currently training a Slakoth and wondering which level to evolve it to, or wether i should keep it at all.

I cant remember all my movesets just now but my team is currently gonna end up...

Blaziken, Sandslash, Pelipper, Weezing, Mawile, Slaking.

Id like to lose Pelliper for a better Water type, I was thinking of trying out Golduck and i think i need a better Water Killer since i dont have anything other than Weezing that can use Electric attacks.

[Xenesis]

You should just evolve it. It's a rare case when Slaking Won't OHKO something with a decent attack. It's got better all around stats and even if it has Traunt, (I think) Slaking's base attack divided by 2 is better than Vigoroth's.

If you want a water Killer, Magneton is good. ^_^. Regice is also good, because of it's insane Spdef. and decent Spatk.

[andyizcool]

Vigoroth is better than Slaking because Protect or more commonly now Substitute won't stop it. Vigoroth could also do the Reversal/Flail with Salac Berry combo in battle if you wanted to test that out. Remember Slaking has 670 Total Base Stats so that's like an Uber but it can't keep attacking because of Truant. Vigoroth's Total Base Stats are 440 and they look equal except Special Attack and Special Defence are quite low. Slaking was good in 200 Teams but now in the future of 386 games it won't work as well as before simply because Substitute is everywhere now.

[phaedrus]

Pelipper is decent, trust me.

As someone mentioned before, Maggy is the best out there. Slow, but the best. Most use Jolty nowadays.

Vigoroth has it's uses, and so does Slaking. It depends on the predicament.

[Rudoku]

If you're not going to evolve it, you may as well get a Zangoose. It's much better, and if you squench your eyes hard enough, they look alike.

[rinku]

I think there's a fair choice between Vigroth and Zangoose:

Vigroth: HP80 A80 D80 S90 SA55 SD55, can't be put Asleep
Zangoose: HP73 A115 D60 S90 SA60 SD60, can't be Poisoned

Movesets are fairly similar, though I'd give the nod to Vigroth for having Yawn, Encore and the Endure/Reversal combo. If you build a Vigroth based on Encore/Counter (level up moves, remember), the difference in Attack also becomes irrelevant. Try this:

Encore
Counter
Slack Off
Fury Swipes/Slash/Return/Focus Punch

[Mr.E]

As someone mentioned before, Maggy is the best out there. Slow, but the best.

You're exactly right... if by "best" you mean "most worthless."

I think there's a fair choice between Vigroth and Zangoose:

Vigroth: HP80 A80 D80 S90 SA55 SD55, can't be put Asleep
Zangoose: HP73 A115 D60 S90 SA60 SD60, can't be Poisoned

Movesets are fairly similar, though I'd give the nod to Vigroth for having Yawn, Encore and the Endure/Reversal combo.

Swords Dance. And, umm... well, Swords Dance. That's all I can think of, but that's all that matters.

[Xenesis]

What have you got against Magneton?

[andyizcool]

What have you got against Magneton?

Magneton can't do much except trap other Steel Pokemon with Magnetic Pull. People use this to take out Skarmory and Forretress with Thunderbolt and HP Fire. If Metagross is sent out against Magneton then Magneton is trapped against an Earthquake so bye bye Magneton.

[phaedrus]

Magneton can't do much except trap other Steel Pokemon with Magnetic Pull. People use this to take out Skarmory and Forretress with Thunderbolt and HP Fire. If Metagross is sent out against Magneton then Magneton is trapped against an Earthquake so bye bye Magneton.

There's "SWITCH OUT MAGNETON YOU STUPID ****ER" for a reason.

@Mr. E: I was referring more 202, where the shittiest electric is practically the best. ;p Zappy and Jolty own 386.

[andyizcool]

There's "SWITCH OUT MAGNETON YOU STUPID ****ER" for a reason.

I think Magneton's Magnetic Pull won't let it escape from any Steel Types. Meaning the Trait Magnetic Pull keeps Steel Type Pokemon stuck in the arena together. So you can't switch Magneton out if your opponent sends in another Steel Type who's going to thrash you.

[Xenesis]

I just tested it. Magneton can most certainly switch out against Steel Types.

[rinku]

Perhaps andyizcool has had Magnet Pull vs Magnet Pull experiences. Certainly if you have two Magnetons who both have it, no one is going anywhere...