Mozilla Firefox 1.0 Preview Release

[kainashi]

not the final 1.0 but a preview release of what's to come. working fine for me so far. here's what's new:

Live Bookmarks
You can now subscribe to and read RSS feeds in your Bookmarks. When you visit a page that advertises a RSS feed by using a <link> tag, a RSS icon will appear in the status bar. Click it to view a list of feeds the page is offering. Click one to subscribe - this adds a Bookmark Folder that contains all the recent posts from the feed.

Improved Find
Find is easier and more powerful now with our new Find toolbar. The Find toolbar (which shows at the bottom of the browser window) automatically highlights text in the page as you type and has a useful highlight feature.

Managing Annoyances and Protecting Security
You can now open blocked popups, and the Extension install system now blocks all attempts to install software from sites other than update.mozilla.org. Users can add other sites to a list that allows them to offer software, but software is never automatically installed. In addition to these steps, several other measures have been taken to prevent phishing attacks and to highlight when a page is being viewed over a secure connection.

Better Bookmarks
Numerous improvements to bookmarks including more reliable presentation of Site icons, and a split pane view in the Bookmarks window.

Strong Encryption For Passwords Available
Passwords saved with the Password Manager can now be more easily encrypted with strong encryption by creating a "Master Password". If you create a Master Password, you are prompted once per session to enter the Master Password so that Password Manager can automatically fill in site logins. A useful feature for people who share computers with others and want improved security.

Improved Compatibility for IE users
Undetectable document.all support for site compatibility and improved compatibility for keyboard accelerators further smooth the transition for IE users

and many bugfixes... :)

Download Windows Installer (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.10/Firefox%20Setup%201.0PR.exe)
Downloads for other platforms (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.10/)
Product Site (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/)
New SpreadFirefox Site (Beta) (http://www.spreadfirefox.com) (make sure you register there and download. they want 1,000,000 downloads in 10 days, let's help them out a bit. ;) )

Mozilla.org (http://www.mozilla.org/) has been updated.

mozilla.org has a random ftp rotation and some ftps don't have the release yet. so if you can't download it, keep trying or wait a bit and it should be copied over by then.

[nightcrow]

is the rss feed kinda like what's on lj? :oh: cool.

[kainashi]

is the rss feed kinda like what's on lj? :oh: cool.yes, it is. :)

[Dark Scizor]

Wo0o0o0o0o0o0o, thanks Kainashi :D *downloading now*

[Red Angel]

That looks really nice, but I don't think I'll be getting the beta 1.0. My computer doesn't like betas. Not at all. Nuh-uh.

[RedStarWarrior]

It isn't a beta. It is a preview release. It works great for me. Consider it like a halfway upgrade. They want to do more to it, but it functions the way it is. Now I just have to wait until later this month for the RC.

[kainashi]

It isn't a beta. It is a preview release. It works great for me. Consider it like a halfway upgrade. They want to do more to it, but it functions the way it is. Now I just have to wait until later this month for the RC.all that is left to do is bugfixes from here on out. around 200 bugfixes, iirc. :)

@red angel: every release of firefox has been beta up to this point. ;)

[FireBlast]

Yeah I heard this a few hours ago. Downloaded ;)

[youdontknowme]

So a thread was made here also, eh? Fantastic.
I LOVE the new find feature. It's fantastic. And also the RSS feeds in the bookmarks, the new bookmarks manager, and the integration of your default email program into the browser.

[kainashi]

So a thread was made here also, eh? Fantastic.
I LOVE the new find feature. It's fantastic. And also the RSS feeds in the bookmarks, the new bookmarks manager, and the integration of your default email program into the browser.find toolbar and the rss support are probably my favorite features. :)

[Prodigy]

Downloaded. Thanks for the heads up.

[Trainer_Sophia]

Wow, thanks kainashi. *thumbsups*

[Crystal Mew]

I would so go firefox....if I didn't have this stupid aol to deal with :swear: maybe some time.

[Red Angel]

all that is left to do is bugfixes from here on out. around 200 bugfixes, iirc. :)

@red angel: every release of firefox has been beta up to this point. ;)

I know. What I meant was that I'd rather wait for the final 1.0 than go for a stop-gap "beta 1.0" version. It's sort of like I don't go for Mozilla 0.71 after I've dowloaded 0.7, I wait for 0.8 instead.

[RedStarWarrior]

Red Angel, that is retarded to do. I quickly upgraded from 0.9.0 to 0.9.3 because some bugs were fixed. You need to reevaluate your downloading ideals. Just because a version isn't given a full new number doesn't mean it isn't an improvement and isn't worth downloading.

[kurai]

hello internet,

here is a good reason to upgrade (http://secunia.com/advisories/12526/).

i wasn't going to upgrade personally, until this came to my attention. after doing so, i've decided 1.0PR is likely worth the upgrade (for bug fixes and a general speed increase), regardless of the fact that you will have a serious security vulnerability for a few months until 1.0 final comes out if you do not upgrade.

[Red Angel]

Red Angel, that is retarded to do. I quickly upgraded from 0.9.0 to 0.9.3 because some bugs were fixed. You need to reevaluate your downloading ideals. Just because a version isn't given a full new number doesn't mean it isn't an improvement and isn't worth downloading.

I just try to install (and therefore uninstall)n a bare minimum of temporary programs because I'm using Win98, and Win98 really likes to screw up uninstalls, which leads to all sorts of registry errors. But after reading that alert, maybe I'll do it anyway.

[Water Pokemon Master]

I think I will stick with the powerful browsers of AOL and IE. :D

*prepares to dodge bullets*

[midnightangel]

I just finished downloading the new version and I love it

Thanks for the heads up, kainashi :wave:

[Jay]

My extensions don't appear to be working and now my all powerful adblock is rendered useless, even after reinstalling twice, it's no good.

Should have waited.

WPM, you're crazy. :( If you haven't even tried Firefox before then you can't judge for shit. >_> So kindly stop spamming. Thank you!!

[kainashi]

wpm: you're a ****ing retard, stay out of my topic. please.

jay: check http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showforum=2. adblock was updated, iirc.

[Dark Scizor]

Why would one rather use something like IE over Firefox?!

Anyway, I'm not sure if my little brother added it or not, but did anyone else get a Yahoo search plug in with PR1.0?

[kainashi]

Why would one rather use something like IE over Firefox?!

Anyway, I'm not sure if my little brother added it or not, but did anyone else get a Yahoo search plug in with PR1.0?only narrow minded people use ie over firefox. ;)

have a screenshot of that plugin? it could just be the default one that's included with firefox or something. never heard of a yahoo plugin for firefox. :oh:

[Trainer_Sophia]

For the record, they do recommend uninstalling, then reinstalling, instead of simply installing over an older version, which might help with some of the bugs.

Edit: And installing Yahoo Messenger, it asks you if you want to install a browser bar, but that may or may not be it.

[Aipom Of Doom]

only narrow minded people use ie over firefox. ;)

have a screenshot of that plugin? it could just be the default one that's included with firefox or something. never heard of a yahoo plugin for firefox. :oh:

Well, the search bar now comes with google, yahoo, amazon, ebay, and dictionary.com... maybe that's what he means?

And on the subject of search bar plugins, is there a way to remove some of them? I don't want the yahoo/amazon/ebay ones...



I think I will stick with the powerful browsers of AOL and IE. :D

*prepares to dodge bullets*

Remind me to show you some pages with activex exploits then.

[Water Pokemon Master]

WPM, you're crazy. :( If you haven't even tried Firefox before then you can't judge for shit. >_>
I have tried Firefox and Mozilla and I don't like them. Both of them mess up a lot of webpages when you view them, and lots of things don't work. I'm not just talking out of my head. :P

[kainashi]

I have tried Firefox and Mozilla and I don't like them. Both of them mess up a lot of webpages when you view them, and lots of things don't work. I'm not just talking out of my head. :Pactually, internet explorer is the one that doesn't display webpages correctly. mozilla/firefox are standards compliant, while internet explorer uses microsofts standards. so get your facts straight next time.


Well, the search bar now comes with google, yahoo, amazon, ebay, and dictionary.com... maybe that's what he means?

And on the subject of search bar plugins, is there a way to remove some of them? I don't want the yahoo/amazon/ebay ones...ah, didn't notice that they added yahoo and such. i thought you still had to add them yourself.

to delete the search engines from the list, you have to delete some files manually. they're in the mozilla firefox directory in the searchplugins subfolder. (ie. yahoo.src, yahoo.gif, and so on.) :)

[Water Pokemon Master]

Then why are more web pages compatible with IE? If Mozilla/Firefox are "standard," you would think more people would use them and have their pages compatible with it.

[kainashi]

Then why are more web pages compatible with IE? If Mozilla/Firefox are "standard," you would think more people would use them and have their pages compatible with it.since microsoft bundles internet explorer with every version of windows, the average joe isn't going to use anything else. hence, the heavy ie usage because it's bundled in windows. so they don't make websites compatible with other browsers since supposedly a lot of people don't use them. goes back to my prior comment. that and microsoft forces *their* standards on them.

[RedStarWarrior]

I just try to install (and therefore uninstall)n a bare minimum of temporary programs because I'm using Win98, and Win98 really likes to screw up uninstalls, which leads to all sorts of registry errors. But after reading that alert, maybe I'll do it anyway.
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you were using 98.

Also, in regards to compatibility issues, most webpages compatible with IE are compatible with Firefox. Anyway, in most HTML classes they tell you to make it compatible with the most browsers possible.

[Red Angel]

Well, I just did a clean reinstall of Win98, so I went ahead and installed 1.0PR. I haven't really noticed much different (live bookmarks aren't usefull to me), but the Noia Extreme theme DOES look nicer now. Yay.

[kainashi]

they wanted 1,000,000 downloads of firefox within 10 days. they got over a million in only 4 days. :D

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=node/view/875

[Sarcastic Assassin]

Is the find toolbar different than the little search box next to the address bar in Firefox 0.9.3?

[kainashi]

Is the find toolbar different than the little search box next to the address bar in Firefox 0.9.3?yes, they do completely different things. you use the find toolbar to search for words in a document. the search box/toolbar is used to search google/yahoo/whatever.

[The Decapitated Mole]

Unfortunately for me, none of the FireFox versions after 8.[somethingsomething] work on my Windows 95 computer, so I'm stuck using 8.[somethingsomething], although all those new features sound really good and /helpful. Oh well :(.

o_0
jimm

[kainashi]

why are you still using windows 95? :(

[youdontknowme]

Anyway, in most HTML classes they tell you to make it compatible with the most browsers possible.
From my experience, most schools teach kids how to use Dreamweaver/Frontpage to make tables for layouts (which is not the way to go).

WPM, you seriously have no idea what you're talking about...
http://mysite.verizon.net/vartoo/noie.html
Read that.

[Water Pokemon Master]

No thanks, I prefer to be brainwashed by Microsoft. :)

Besides, IE works fine for me.

[pokemasterfrank]

I have tried Firefox and Mozilla and I don't like them. Both of them mess up a lot of webpages when you view them, and lots of things don't work. I'm not just talking out of my head. :P

Actually, there pages that don't work with IE as well :P

Then again, keep using IE :D It's people like you that keep the crackers from looking for the bugs and holes in Firefox :P

[kainashi]

wpm is your typical aol user. :(

[Chris]

wpm is your typical aol user. :(

No he's not. Almost all AOL users know they suck for using AOL and are trying to get away from it as quickly as they can. WPM, on the other hand, loves AOL, and thinks that his "AOL optimiser" program actually does something useful. :(

[RedStarWarrior]

WPM is an idiot. IE is the worst browser out as far as security holes are concerned. Also, AOL is....AOL. I mean, it is self-explanatory.

[kainashi]

he is a nice source for humor because of all this too. :)

[Prodigy]

I figure WPM and Internet Explorer are meant for each other anyway.

[Water Pokemon Master]

We are, we are. :love:

[fat man with a monkey]

At least he admits it. On this computer, I use IE, but on mine, I'm going to get firefox. I use it a lot over at my friend's, and I like it.

[kainashi]

We are, we are. :love:ok. then tell us why ie is so much better than the alternative browsers out there? :)

[Water Pokemon Master]

Who cares about downloading another browser. I am perfectly happy with IE. Besides, who would want to hack into my computer if it has security holes? Spyware really isn't a problem either since I have AOL Spyware Removal and Ad-aware to take care of those things.

Besides, IE looks a lot cooler in design and I don't have to keep updating it every month. :yes:

[fat man with a monkey]

I don't have to keep updating it every month hence all the security holes.

[RedStarWarrior]

Firefox is a lot cooler in design. Its features are magnificant. Anyway, anything AOL related (such as you anti-spyware program) is crap.

[Water Pokemon Master]

You've never even tried their spyware protection, so you don't know that. Besides, the AOL Spyware software actually find more Spyware then the ad-aware program.

[Chris]

Besides, the AOL Spyware software actually find more Spyware then the ad-aware program.

That's because AOL's insecurities put it there in the first place. :monocle:

edit: this is a placeholder; i'm going to smash up your other posts tomorrow morning when i'm not tired

[kainashi]

firefox looks a whole lot better than ie. its default theme is meant to kind of resemble ie's so newbies don't have a hard time adopting it. you can also theme firefox if you like that type of stuff. can you theme ie?

and just because you don't think you'll be hacked eventually, doesn't mean you won't be. i also highly doubt that aol spyware remover is helping at all since they like to install spyware with the newer versions of aim. ;)

after firefox hits 1.0 final, it won't be updating "every month". it's beta, of course it's going to be updated a lot with bugfixes and whatnot. that's a really stupid reason to not use something. and you think ie not being updated is an advantage? that just means more security holes and months before they are fixed. firefox has only been out a couple years and it's already lightyears ahead of ie in functionality. the more people that use ie, the less likely microsoft will update it. another update to it isn't scheduled until windows "longhorn" and that is several years away. even then, to use it, you will have to upgrade to longhorn. it's stupid of microsoft to not release the update as a seperate download for users of windows 98, etc. they are forcing people to upgrade really but that's a whole different story and i'm going off-topic. :(

[Aipom Of Doom]

Besides, who would want to hack into my computer if it has security holes?

Let's see... Viruses that exploit security holes don't care who the hell you are... Spammers would love to make your computer into a zombie that sends out 1000 viagra ads a day... People would love to have a keygrabber take any credit card numbers, bank passwords, paypal passwords, etc. that you type in...


Besides, IE looks a lot cooler in design and I don't have to keep updating it every month. :yes:

If updating every month is a problem for you, I'd hate to hear how often you go to windowsupdate.com and download all of the critical patches/bugfixes/etc. that block all of the viruses you hear about...

[RedStarWarrior]

WPM, I use Spybot S&D, Spyware Blaster, and Spy Sweeper for my spyware. Any single one of those has more file definitions than AOL's.

[Animelee]

Because of Shiternet Explorer (clever... no), I ended up as one of those computers literally sending out thousands of spam e-mails a day, even though I had a spyware-checking program and a firewall. My ISP found out and stopped my Internet for a week, even though their installation CD is integrated with Internet Explorer. Let me tell you, that was one hell of a week, and during that week, I went to the library across the street and did research on the Internet to see exactly why that happened to me. It was Internet Explorer. The minute my modem lights came back on a week later, I went and got Mozilla, and never turned back.

WPM, I thought Internet Explorer was good enough, too, but trust me, not only is Mozilla Firefox safer, but it's faster, and chock full of neat little customizable features.

Want to control Winamp from your browser?
Want to see the time and date in the status bar, instead of having to hover your mouse over the clock?
Have tabbed browsing?
A Google/Dictionary/Wikipedia search bar?
A button that allows you to translate a page into various languages instantly?

And though Firefox's default layout is pretty plain, there's an awesome theme called "Noia eXtreme". And even though it's a very detailed theme, it doesn't even lag the browser, unlike Internet Explorer extensions.

Here's a picture. (http://www.deviantart.com/view/4266778/)

Trust me, Mozilla Firefox and SpyBot will change your computer experience. I know your parents will stick with AOL because it's convenient, but that doesn't mean you have to use AOL for everything! Just use it for connecting to the Internet, but leave everything else to Mozilla and SpyBot. :)

[Water Pokemon Master]

Fine, but Aipom is going to have to help me make my webpage Firefox/Mozilla compatible.

[Chris]

What? I leave you guys alone with him for 8 hours, and you manage to convince him to get Moz?

Bah. :(

[Animelee]

Your site looks the same in Mozilla as it does in Internet Explorer, so there's no need to adjust it. :)

Here. (http://tinypic.com/5v21t)

[kainashi]

our work here is done. back to discussion. :)

[Water Pokemon Master]

Not exactly. The news story text is centered, when it should be like this post. Also, that &nb yada yada that makes spaces is showing in the news story title.

But wow, that is a cool theme for the browser, Animelee. When I get home (and hopefully have my laptop waiting at my door from the repair shop), I will download it. I need someone like Chris or Aipom to help me, though. :)

[Chris]

The news story text is centered, when it should be like this post.

The way Moz browsers display it is the way all browsers should display it: conforming to the standards. Making it align to the left doesn't take much work; just 2 CSS attributes and a bit of research into the workings of tables and it'll be fine.


Also, that &nb yada yada that makes spaces is showing in the news story title.

It's , not &nbsp or &nbsp. ;)

[Water Pokemon Master]

So a semi-colon is supposed to go after it?

I'm lazy Chris, what are the 2 CSS stuff thingies?

[Chris]

So a semi-colon is supposed to go after it?

Yep. All entity references begin with an ampersand and end with a semicolon. :)


I'm lazy Chris, what are the 2 CSS stuff thingies?

Trust me, you're going to benefit far more if you find the answer unaided... Saying that, I'm not a horrible person, so I'll give you a very good starting point (http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_margin.asp). ;)

[Water Pokemon Master]

Gracias amigo. :)

[midnightangel]

I like the fact that you can change the background of your browser with different "skins"

I'm sporting FireCat PalePurplePaws 1.0 now--kind of looks like my cat Sonny has tracked his paws all over it, lol. :)

[youdontknowme]

WPM's site looks nearly the same because it uses tables for layouts. The only difference is probably text formatting.
If you layout sites with hardcore CSS, then it most definitely will look different.

Tables are convenient for layouts but the W3C standards say that it's not meant for layouts; just tabular data.
http://www.hotdesign.com/seybold/

[fat man with a monkey]

Just thought I'd make a post here and say I <3 firefox. Might be because it doesn't have any spyware, but it's been loading pages at least 2x faster than IE, and has yet to freeze up on me, quite possibly because there are no popups. I talked my parents into letting me put it on all of our computers.

[kainashi]

Just thought I'd make a post here and say I <3 firefox. Might be because it doesn't have any spyware, but it's been loading pages at least 2x faster than IE, and has yet to freeze up on me, quite possibly because there are no popups. I talked my parents into letting me put it on all of our computers.superb work. 8)

[freshmex]

i like firefox and all but they really ****ed up search in v1.0 pr

http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~cjwhite1/pycpurple.gifhttp://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~cjwhite1/pycpurple.gifhttp://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~cjwhite1/pycpurple.gif

[kainashi]

i like firefox and all but they really ****ed up search in v1.0 prhow is that?

[RedStarWarrior]

I find the search feature to work fine. WTF are you talking about, freshmex?

[Prodigy]

Taking that sentiment a step further, I really like the 1.0 search feature.

[Metallixs Girl]

My dad literally forces me to use IE. I had Opera for half a year but I was the only one who used it, and everyone else used IE and we ended up with viruses and this evil little thing called MXTarget.dll, so dad said it all came through Opera and since Opera has so many features it's more prone to viruses and since it's not from Microsoft, the staff don't do the best security. He says that about all Non-MS browsers. (hey it could be worse, at least he doesn't trust AOL and knows it's crud and I've never had to use it)

[Razola]

I've heard that 1.0 Final is out, but not word on their website. Can anyone confirm this?

[kainashi]

I've heard that 1.0 Final is out, but not word on their website. Can anyone confirm this?1.0 final won't be out until december. rc1 in october, with rc2 in november. only the preview release is out right now.

Metallix's Girl: you should show him http://browsehappy.com/why/. shows how "secure" internet explorer is. ;)

[Dark Scizor]

Just thought I'd make a post here and say I <3 firefox. Might be because it doesn't have any spyware, but it's been loading pages at least 2x faster than IE, and has yet to freeze up on me, quite possibly because there are no popups. I talked my parents into letting me put it on all of our computers.
Go for it :D

Just wait till Firefox starts doing 10x better then it does already then we'll have hackers trying to find security holes in our favourite browser (I think FF has about 3.5% of internet users using it?), but with the amount of new releases and the fact its open source (I think it is?) kinda makes up for any chance of constant security warnings.

btw about the sig, i know yours is full binary but i am sure Kari and Mewtwo used to have a little Binary in her (?) sig :) Though yours has had the most in my memory :P

[Metallixs Girl]

1.0 final won't be out until december. rc1 in october, with rc2 in november. only the preview release is out right now.

Metallix's Girl: you should show him http://browsehappy.com/why/. shows how "secure" internet explorer is. ;)

Believe me I showed him all those sites and articles. He thinks they are just lies made up by MS haters. Even the article in the MSN magazing thing...

[kainashi]

Believe me I showed him all those sites and articles. He thinks they are just lies made up by MS haters. Even the article in the MSN magazing thing...sounds like a lost cause then. :(

[Chris]

This is a last resort: Back yourself up and wait for the onslaught of virii, adware, spyware and so forth. You can't say you didn't warn him...

[Yoh Asakura]

Why do I get an illigal program operation every now an dagain then a netscape box? It's pissing annoying when it happens =\

[kainashi]

Why do I get an illigal program operation every now an dagain then a netscape box? It's pissing annoying when it happens =\tried an uninstall then reinstall yet? if that doesn't work, you could try a fresh start. backup your bookmarks, etc. then delete the profile directory. located at C:\WINDOWS\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\default.xxx\ in windows 98, which is what you use, if i remember correctly. :nut:

[Yoh Asakura]

It's not a common thing, it just happens now and again. I'll be fine for hours and then it'll just pop =\

Tried everything you've said before =|

[kainashi]

seems to be something with your computer then and not firefox. :oh:

[Yoh Asakura]

Usually happens when I pop open too many tabs.

[kainashi]

Usually happens when I pop open too many tabs.how many is too many?

[Yoh Asakura]

Oh pfft 7 or so.

[kainashi]

Oh pfft 7 or so.hmm. that shouldn't be a problem, unless you barely have any memory.

[youdontknowme]

That happens to my mom's computer but it's just because I overheated her computer and completely screwed up the computer :P

Metallix's Girl:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2103152/
Make your dad read that, and make sure to tell him that it's an online magazine owned by Microsoft that says that FF is safer than IE. Also, if he doesn't know that MSN is owned by Microsoft, tell him that it stands for Microsoft Network.
One last thing... tell him to consider the fact that Microsoft comes out with a lot of patches for Windows. What does this mean? It means that Microsoft released Windows without finding all of the bugs and security holes, which means that Micro$oft just want their money, etc, etc.
Anybody want to contribute anything that I don't know about?

[Metallixs Girl]

Chris: He's very strict on security. If we get viruses it's our falt cause we know better. He would never blame IE for something we did.

YDKM: That's the MSN magizine I mentioned...

Oh and he knows all that and he always has us update. He thinks that the updates are good and MS is always doing their best to make windows better.

>_<

[kainashi]

http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=node/view/1982

new campaign is up. first one did really nice. instead of 1 million downloads in 10 days, they got over 2 million. this new one should be easier. 10,000 new users in 10 days. so if you haven't registered there already, you should. ;)

edit: if you register, please use this link: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=user/register&r=488. i'll get user referral points. :D

[youdontknowme]

Heh. Kainashi: I signed up :)

Metallix's Girl: Wow, I don't want to offend your dad or anything but he doesn't know anything about computers... Companies are supposed to create products with no/minimal bugs and what not. Microsoft releases their product(s) with a heck load of problems (and not to mention the inefficiency).
If he thinks that updates are good then he must like wasting time and using up disk space... I dunno what else to say. I guess your dad'll stay as a fan of Microsoft forever. :-/

BTW, since your family uses IE, don't you get stuff installed that you don't want?

[RedStarWarrior]

It's not a common thing, it just happens now and again. I'll be fine for hours and then it'll just pop =\

Tried everything you've said before =|
Actually, the Netscape thing has caused Firefox to crash for me as well. Of course, when I actually went and did the feedback thing, I didn't get anymore problems.

[kainashi]

Actually, the Netscape thing has caused Firefox to crash for me as well. Of course, when I actually went and did the feedback thing, I didn't get anymore problems.the netscape thing is just for feedback and it only shows up when firefox crashes. :confused:

[homeofmew]

i finally got firefox i like it a lot I am now redoing my site
so it looks nice on firefox.

[RedStarWarrior]

Ah, for a while there I thought it was crashing it. Anyway, Firefox hasn't crashed since.

[youdontknowme]

i finally got firefox i like it a lot I am now redoing my site
so it looks nice on firefox.
You should also check how your site looks like in IE because if it looks good in Firefox, then it most likely will look messed up in IE.

[RedStarWarrior]

Why would it look messed up in IE?

[kainashi]

if anything, it would look messed up in firefox since she coded it using internet explorer in the first place. :(

[youdontknowme]

Oh woops. I thought she was completely redoing her site from scratch or something. Sorry for the misunderstanding then. :P

Why would it look messed up in IE?
IE doesn't work too well with CSS.
Of course, if you're using tables for the layout, then there wouldn't be a problem (except for the fact that tables aren't meant for layouts)

[kainashi]

Important Security Update for Firefox Available
October 1, 2004. The Mozilla Foundation releases an important security update for Firefox. All users should upgrade to the latest version of the Firefox Preview Release. A patch is available for current Preview Release users.

Download information:

* Visit the Firefox homepage (http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/index.html) to download the latest version of Firefox Preview Release (Firefox 0.10.1)
* Current Firefox Preview Release users: when the update icon (http://www.mozilla.org/images/update.png) appears in the upper right corner of your screen, just click on it to install the patch, or click here (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/0.10.1/patches/259708.xpi) to install it.

Questions & Answers:

* How does this security vulnerability expose the user?

A malicious hacker who could trick a user into saving a file could delete files from of a user's download directory.

* How serious is this vulnerability?

While this is a potentially severe security vulnerability, user interaction is required to trigger potential harm. This security update is also another example of the Mozilla Foundation identifying and fixing security vulnerabilities before they are exploited by malicious hackers. This type of security vulnerability is very different from cases where a hacker could take advantage of a vulnerability to obtain valuable information from a user's computer.

* Doesn't this case illustrate that all browsers are equally insecure?

The Mozilla Foundation continues to have a very strong track record on security. According to Secunia (http://www.secunia.com/), an independent security monitoring organization, Firefox currently has 1 open security issue (http://secunia.com/product/3256/), out of a total of 13 security advisories filed in 2003 and 2004. 0% of these are labeled "extremely critical", 15% are labeled "highly critical". For the same period, Secunia lists 16 open security issues (http://secunia.com/product/11/) out of 44 advisories for Internet Explorer 6.0, 14% of which are labeled "extremely critical", 34% are "highly critical".

source: mozilla.org (http://www.mozilla.org/press/mozilla-2004-10-01-02.html)

nothing to be said about internet explorer's vulnerabilitie's that hasn't already been said. :yawn:

[Trainer_Sophia]

And if you have the 1.0 preview, you can simply get the updates by clicking the little bar beside the icon over the google search bar. Just in case you're lazy like yours truly.

[youdontknowme]

by clicking the little barswirly button thing* :)
Thanks for the update, kainashi. Gotta download :)

[kainashi]

also. if you haven't already, please register (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=user/register&r=488) at spread firefox. it would be really helpful, plus it's a nice little community. :) i don't want them falling short of 10,000 new members either. ;)