Blastoise and charizard moveset

[SeleucusII]

Can someone suggest a moveset for blastoise,i ain't changing hydro cannon though.:009:Charizard too please.

[Mitch's Bashamo]

Blastoise
@Leftovers
Hydro Cannon
Counter
Rest
Ice Beam

Charizard
@Salac Berry
Overheat
Rock Slide
Aerial Ace
Belly Drum

I'm gonna use this Charizard moveset when I get FR and I'm not sure how effective my Blastoise moveset is but I'm still trying to help.

[Drazonmaster]

Blastoise
@Leftovers
Hydro Cannon
Mirror Coat
Earthquake
Ice Beam

I just suggest this becasue it covers a few bases, like attacking electric types with Earthquake, and dealing back double damage when an electric or grass type attack hits you.

Charizard
@Salac Berry
Overheat
Rock Slide
Aerial Ace
Belly Drum

I agree and disagree with this set. I'll say that I agree with it becasue the Salac Berry Supports the use of Over heat, and the Belly Drum of the other two moves. On the other hand I disagree with it becasue Belly Drum takes down half of your hp, and you have no way of getting it back, and with the Salac Berry, Overheat will be only able to be used effectively (with all of Charizard's Special) Twice, but all in all its a good set, just watch how you use it.

[andyizcool]

Blastoise@Leftovers
Ice Beam
Mirror Coat
Haze/Roar/Rest
Surf/Hydro Cannon

I really recommend Surf because Blastoise's Job is a Tank/Utility and doesn't have the Special Attack needed for high powered moves.

Charizard@Salac Berry/Liechi Berry
Fire Blast
Rock Slide
Earthquake
Swords Dance

[SeleucusII]

thank you

[Ultimate Pikachu]

Blastiose@Leftovers
Bold
252 HP, 129 Def, 129 Sp Def
Surf
Toxic/Rest/Mirror Coat/Rapid Spin/Roar (use with Toxic)/Counter/Ice Beam/Yawn (pick 3)

Sorry, Hydro Cannon is not an option.

Charizard@Petaya Berry
Timid
6 HP, 252 Speed, 252 Special Attack
Flamethrower
HP Grass
Dragon Claw
filler

Suffers from poor special attack movepool syndrome.

Charizard@Salac Berry
Jolly
6 HP, 252 Attack, 252 Speed
Dragon Dance/Swords Dance/Belly Drum
Overheat/Earthquake/Return/HP Flying or Aerial Ace/Rock Slide or HP Rock (pick three)

[Poryhedron]

Sorry, Hydro Cannon is not an option.
What makes you say that? I taught the move to my Blastoise just fine. Was there something in this post that makes you think shiny seeker's Blastoise was bred or something? And why are you using the spoiler tag? It's already been discussed on this board, non-spoiler-fashion, that the Elemental Hyper Beams can be taught to one Venusaur, one Charizard and one Blastoise per game, all of which had to be, if not your starter, then at least somebody's starter.

[Ultimate Pikachu]

I always rate on a competitive level. Spoiler tag was used so I didn't make the topic creator mad as easily.

[SeleucusII]

Why is hydro cannon not an option and why would you have made me mad :swear: ,while i'm here what would be a decent moveset for kingdra

[Ultimate Pikachu]

Why is hydro cannon not an option and why would you have made me mad :swear: ,while i'm here what would be a decent moveset for kingdraSurf outclasses Hydro Cannon. The missed turn gives you too much of a disadvantage. The PP is rather poor for something that is meant to last.

Kingra@Petaya Berry/Lum Berry
Modest
129 HP, 129 Speed, 252 Special Attack
Surf
Ice Beam
HP Dragon
Rain Dance

[Ultimate Charizard]

My Charizards have always gone

Flamethrower
Slash
Swords Dance
Earthquake

Now that My Charmeleon knows Rock Slide this will have to Change....i may remove Slash for Slide but i normally like having a 'non-element' dependant move....used to be Seismic Toss.
Thinking about it.....im gonna have to give this some serious thought.

[Crazy]

What you said made no sense. You said that Blastoise doesn't have the Sp.Atk for a HIGH powered sp.atk move. Why would you would you want a LOWER powered Sp.Atk on a Tank? See what I mean. Blastoise has the defenses to take a hit so it is a option.

[Ultimate Pikachu]

What you said made no sense. You said that Blastoise doesn't have the Sp.Atk for a HIGH powered sp.atk move. Why would you would you want a LOWER powered Sp.Atk on a Tank? See what I mean. Blastoise has the defenses to take a hit so it is a option.It's the effect of Hydro Cannon that makes it bad. It also has low PP, which we all know isn't good for a tank.

[Crazy]

Your missing the point. Let's say that you have about half of your HP and you know you can't take 2 more hits. One Hydro Cannon will take it out. See that's what makes it useful. It is a last resort attack and since it is so "crappy"as you make it out to be. No one will expect it.

[SeleucusII]

What's the best kanto fighting type to use and what moves should it know. Thanks :sweat4:

[andyizcool]

What's the best kanto fighting type to use and what moves should it know. Thanks :sweat4:
Pokemon like Machamp, Primeape, and Hitmonlee come to mind. They have the Attack and sometimes the Speed to be used as a Physical Sweeper. Hitmonlee may be a UU Pokemon but it has the Limber Trait so that's a bonus.

[SeleucusII]

Alright thanks,i'll try hitmonlee,what's the best moveset for it?

[andyizcool]

Alright thanks,i'll try hitmonlee,what's the best moveset for it?
Hitmonlee@Salac Berry
Bulk Up
Rock Slide
Brick Break
Earthquake

That's a Physical Sweeper Moveset and you just better hope after you use Bulk Up you'll be left with some HP so the Salac Berry activates and you can sweep. If not you'll just be OHKO'd and lose your Physical Sweeper so this is why Hitmonlee is UU because it's very risky to use.

[SeleucusII]

So what do you reckomend<------ spelling mistake forgot how to spell it, what's UU

[andyizcool]

So what do you reckomend<------ spelling mistake forgot how to spell it, what's UU
I would use the Physical Sweeper Moveset I posted above or Heracross could use a Moveset like that too if you don't like Hitmonlee. UU Pokemon means Under Used Pokemon. Meaning UU Pokemon aren't used much because they don't really stand a chance against the OU (Over Used) Pokemon that everyone uses.

[SeleucusII]

Can primeape learn the hitmonlee moveset,if it can i'll try that because i don't want to use heracross due to the 2x flying weakness.

[andyizcool]

Can primeape learn the hitmonlee moveset,if it can i'll try that because i don't want to use heracross due to the 2x flying weakness.
Primeape@Leftovers
Bulk Up
Rock Slide
Substitute
Cross Chop

Primeape works differently to Hitmonlee because Primeape can setup a Substitute and keep Bulk Uping. The Leftovers restore HP so you have enough to make another Substitute by the time someone breaks your first one. By the time you make your next Substitute Bulk Up should have gave you the Defence to make it stay in longer.

[Cyber Dragon]

My Battle Tower Charizard has:

Heat Wave (I hate its 90% accuracy but... whatever.)
Dragon Claw (because... he looks like a dragon. o_o)
Substitute (Um, so that its ability can be activated easier, and it activates Petaya early)
Sunny Day (This move is sorta filler-ish, but it helps)
& Petaya Berry
(Timid Nature)
252 S. Atk, 252 Spd, 6 something else...

Yeah, I totally robbed this from a GameFaqs faq. STAB + Sunny Day + Blaze + Petaya Berry + EV's = I pwn you.

[SeleucusII]

I've done blastoise and charizard now i need a venusaur moveset,Any suggestions will be appreciated.

It knows these moves
frenzy plant
earthquake
leech seed
toxic

Thanks.

[andyizcool]

Venusaur@Leftovers
Toxic
Synthesis
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb

One of the best Annoyers around and that's what I like Venusaur for.

[SeleucusII]

What's sludge bomb for?

[andyizcool]

What's sludge bomb for?
You could use Razor Leaf or HP Grass for STAB but Grass is just a bad attacking type. Sludge Bomb also counters that other Annoyer Ludicolo who can't really harm Venusaur. Venusaur hasn't got very good offensive moves so I always stick with Sludge Bomb because you'll try and use Leech Seed and Toxic to take care of them anyway.

[SeleucusII]

Alright thanks i'll give it a try,by the way can you think of a kanto electric type that wuold be worth using and what moves it should know.thanks......................Anybody?

[WaterTrainer]

I dunno... but I still sorta prefer Lanturn for an electric type. I'd wanna see the idiot who wants to use an electric move on Lanturn.Tons of HP, but low stats. too bad Lanturn isnt that good because of its stats

[Rudoku]

I dunno... but I still sorta prefer Lanturn for an electric type. I'd wanna see the idiot who wants to use an electric move on Lanturn.
I'd rather see the idiot that tries to bump up dead threads...