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Perfect Chaos
19th August 2006, 10:39 PM
Yeah, not sure if this is the right area for this topic, so if its not, please don't close and just move it to the right area. Thanks

Anyways, some of you maybe intrigued by my topic title. Its reference to eating items in the Pokemon show. Many times when we see Ash's house, his mom always makes him his favorite meat dishes. But is the meat Ash eating actually butchered Pokemon?

Like Miltank/Tauros based burgers, Spoink/Grumpig sausages/hot dogs, is that what some of the food in the Pokemon show are made from or is it just tofu or something. And I believed one of the Pokedex entries mentions something about Farfetch'ed being some delicacy (or was that its leek?)

And then there's Brock and his cooking meals. He says he wants to become a Pokemon Breeder, but is that so he can have something to cook or does he use some "special tofu" too?

Blademaster
19th August 2006, 10:54 PM
Ironic that I should be the first one to reply here, considering the cornerstone of my ASB Team is, indeed, a Combusken named Colonel Sanders (Sandy for short).

Anyway, I've actually wondered about this, too; it's certainly come up once or twice in Pokemon: The I Syndicate, which is exactly why I made one of the protagonists a vegetarian. Keep it simple, I always say! :lol:

mr_pikachu
20th August 2006, 04:16 AM
I could swear you pulled this straight from one of my fanfics... where the restaurant named the dishes on their menu after Pokemon (Fried Farfetch'd... yum).

It's an interesting question, really. I suspect that there are supposed to be animals in the Pokemon world other than the Pokemon themselves... even though we never see them. On the other hand, if all meat did come from Pokemon, it would explain why everyone's always devouring rice balls. :sweat:

Lady Vulpix
20th August 2006, 07:27 AM
I agree with Brian here. The show (or at least the Mexican dub) had several mentions of animals, but none of them were shown on the screen. I've always found that odd.

Chris 2.1
20th August 2006, 08:25 AM
I think its implied they have normal meat like we do. But many animals such as cows sheep or horses probably inhabit the much more secluded areas of Kanto, Johto, Hoenn or Shinou. I imagine all the wild Pokemon might scare off the animals. Imagine a Ponyta firing off embers at a little pony. So they're probably not seen by viewers because theyre really, really secluded.

However the meat probably gets shipped all across the continent from those specific places that the animals inhabit.

Heald
20th August 2006, 08:49 AM
I'm sure Farfetch'd is mentioned in that one episode by the Pokedex as being a good meal when cooked with leek, so there is a somewhat canonical example of Pokemon being eaten.

In the game, Slowpoke's tails harvested is GSC by Team Rocket as they are eaten as delicacies.

I'm sure there is a Tauros farm somewhere in the anime too, and since Tauros don't breed or produce milk, the only reason one would farm them is to slaughter them.

Tropius' fruit is eaten by people, though that doesn't really count.

There are either two explanations :

Firstly, and more improbably, because the islands/regions in Pokemon are meant to be certain regions of Japan, it could be that Pokemon only exist in those particular places and nowhere else in the world. Pokemon scare off other animals such as cows and sheep and so that is why theyre never seen. If they want meat, they either poach Pokemon (which is frowned upon as they are meant to be rare, I think) or have the meat imported.

Secondly, and more likely, people do actually eat Pokemon, but because Pokemon is marketed at kids and are meant to be loveable creatures and mascots and not just animals which one can either battle with or eat, the issue of people eaten Pokemon is never really raised. Therefore, Nintendo are purposefully keeping it a grey area to avoid controversy.

Magmar
20th August 2006, 10:44 AM
People in Japan don't eat much meat anyway.

Blademaster
20th August 2006, 07:34 PM
Secondly, and more likely, people do actually eat Pokemon, but because Pokemon is marketed at kids and are meant to be loveable creatures and mascots and not just animals which one can either battle with or eat, the issue of people eaten Pokemon is never really raised. Therefore, Nintendo are purposefully keeping it a grey area to avoid controversy.

I think the H-Man is on to something, since eating Pokemon HAS come up in the anime more than a few times:

1. When Ash caught Krabby and he was sent to Prof. Oak's lab, Ash called Prof. Oak, who was boiling something for dinner; Ash was frightened that it was his Krabby.

2. The first time that scheming salesman pawned a Magikarp off on James, after he, Jessie, Meowth, Ash, Misty, and Brock were shipwrecked on a little raft, everyone was starving and began fantasizing about cooking and eating Magikarp.

3. As has already been mentioned, several Pokemon (Tropius, Slowpoke, Farfetch'd, Chansey/Blissey, Miltank, etc.) produce certain food items, so it's certainly likely that the Pokemon themselves could wind up on the menu.

4. This is kind of a sick joke, sorry, but it would explain why it's said that all wild Pokemon WANT to be captured and trained - go to Sea World and look around. Would you rather be the dolphin jumping through a hoop or the fillet of flounder?

...I rest my case. :rolleyes:

Besides, it'd certainly explain why Tauros, Miltank, Spoink/Grumpig, the Torchic family, and whatever else are so rare... >_<'

darktyranitar
21st August 2006, 03:37 PM
Ah, the good ol' Pokemon food topic...

Speaking of Japan, what about Sushi? I imagine that Remoraid/Octillery, Tentacool/Tentacruel, Mantine to be on the menu. And how about the Poli line? I've heard some Chinese restaurant serving frogs. Weird menus, though...

I was thinking that there might also be some specially bred Pokemon that its purpose is only to be eaten. For example: Wouldn't it be hard to eat a wild Torchic? It could easily fry your face before you can get near it...

Elec Man EXE
21st August 2006, 06:25 PM
The real question is, can you really fry a Torchic, being a fire pokemon?

And if so, can you breed special Torchic, trained to fry themselves. Release 'em from the ball, put them on a plate, and in no time you have yourself a chicken dinner, and you don't even have to cook it yourself :p

Magmar
21st August 2006, 10:36 PM
No risk of E. Coli! :)

darktyranitar
22nd August 2006, 02:31 PM
A spontaneous combustion Torchic... That sound like a strange, yet practical idea!

Houndoom_Lover
24th August 2006, 01:58 PM
In my fanfictions about Pokemon, besides the one I'm writting now, I mention the Tiger and the Carp and things like that from a childrens book because they're like the bloody Lochness monster to these people. It explanes how the World of Pokemon started, that way back when (today, if you will) we screwed up the world so bad, that we killed most animals, while we stayed in our protective city bubbles. Crazed doctors and what not used the animals dna and made Pokemon, they first started out veeeerry small but they also tested Hermone (sp?) inhancers on them, that's why they got big XD. So, I don't think it bothers them as much as we'd think it does. You look at a cow and go aww, I can't beleive I'm eating that, but you still eat it XD. I'm all for the pokemon eating pokemon, Humans eating Pokemon. No different on what he do today. And with the right oil and batter, any thing can be fried.

Silencer
24th August 2006, 03:26 PM
Also what do wild pokémon eat? I can imagine small pokémon such as caterpie, weedle, pikachu and others to eat fruit and leaves and such, but what do Charizards, arcanines, persians, arboks and the like eat? They are big pokémon and seemingly carnivorus(sp?). I believe that in the earlier episodes it was mentioned that pidgeotto ate bugs(including the caterpie Ash had send out, great move btw).

So I guess we can look at pokémon as we do to normal animals. Something that will eventually become extict because of human existance.
.

lordsalamence
24th August 2006, 10:03 PM
I know how you can poach a wild torchic: whip out a sniper rifle, pop a bullet in it's head, then send it to a processing plant. ;)

Blademaster
24th August 2006, 10:16 PM
Hey sal, I thought they'd banned you. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I just stopped back 'cuz I had a thought: If Pokemon are edible (for lack of a better term), and one Pokemon on the menu was... Exeggcute, let's say... What food group is that? Can a vegetarian eat a Grass Pokemon? And if Exeggcute is too Grassy, then what about a plantimal, like Bulbasaur or Chikorita. Or maybe Bellsprout - a plant, yes, but obviously a highly-advanced one, almost-animalistic one.

Yeah, it's an odd thought, I know, but it's something to think about... :confused:

lordsalamence
24th August 2006, 10:24 PM
anyways, there must be a high death toll considering their special attacks. :rolleyes:

Austrian ViceMaster Alex
25th August 2006, 12:18 PM
I can imagine there being regul "animals" that aren't Pokémon though they are never mentioned or seen, simply as the anime/games are keeping the focus solely on the Pokémon. I remember a single picture of Ash and his friends walking through a town and there was a dog on taht picture too. It was as far as I remember a promo picture of sorts.

I find it highly doubtable that Pokémon could be on the menu card easily given their strength and intelligence, though Farfetch'd have indeed been mentioned as a delicious food.

Houndoom_Lover
27th August 2006, 05:10 PM
This is so going in my Fanfiction...

Tossed Bulba salad...1.50 (dressing +.50)
Squirtle Soup......5.00
Pidgey wings....2.50 for kids....7.50 for adults
Garlic Roasted Pidgeot....8.00
Chopped Oddish bowl...9.70

You shouldn't smoke Gloom, it's bad for you.

Parasect soup...7.50
Psyduck Soup...5.00 (There was an episode where they went into a restraunt, Misty looked at the menu and put it down with a blue icky face. It said Soup of the Day, Pysduck. XD) (Bellsprouts an extra .50)

Roast Farfetch'd, link included....12.50
Doduo bugar....5.00
Fried Shellder...7.80
Steamed Shellder...9.80
Krabby....(Whole 15.00, Legs 10.50)
Kingler....(Whole 25.50, Legs 15.00)
Exeggcute sunny side up or fried...2.30
Exeggutor milk...1.50
Bowl of Tangela with tomato or cheese sause...14.00
Fish fried and battered Goldeen...12.00
Fish fried and battered Seaking....19.00
Sir-Lin (TM thingy), garlic stuffed Tauros on a bed of Chikorita...24.00
Magikarp, baked..1.50
Politoed legs...4, 7.00 10,12.00
A bag of roasted Sunkern...2.50
Flozen Sluma...2.50
Bowl of Octillery...12.50
Stantler jerky..3.00
Miltank Milk...3.40
Chansy eggs, done anyway....5.00
Blissey eggslad...12.30
Torchi wings..(Same as Pidgey)
Torich Sandwhich...7.50
Combusken Sandwhich..12.50
Swellow roast...5.40
Shroomish soup...9.50
Beedrill Honey...10.50 a jar
Spoink chops...5.00
Grumpid roast...12.50
Barbach, smoked....4.00
Whiscashed, fried,battered or smoked...12.00
Corphis....(Whole 15.00, Legs 10.50)
Crawdaunt....(Whole 25.50, Legs 15.00)
Tropius fruit salad...5.00
Fried Clamperl...7.80
Steamed Clamperl...9.80

:D

lordsalamence
27th August 2006, 05:14 PM
uhhh....you misspelled a LOT of pokemon names.....but it all sounds delicious :D

Houndoom_Lover
27th August 2006, 05:23 PM
And that's really bad because I bad a pokemon book right besides me as I was doing this XD I still manage to spell them wrong, but nywho. I want a boul of Shroomish and a side of Tossed Bubla.

lordsalamence
27th August 2006, 05:44 PM
you're making me hungry, cause I have Chinese food sitting right next to me and im not supposed to eat any!

Houndoom_Lover
27th August 2006, 05:51 PM
I would like some Chinese *drools*. I could eat it every other day of my life.

frylock
27th August 2006, 10:00 PM
I'm sure Farfetch'd is mentioned in that one episode by the Pokedex as being a good meal when cooked with leek, so there is a somewhat canonical example of Pokemon being eaten.

In the game, Slowpoke's tails harvested is GSC by Team Rocket as they are eaten as delicacies.

I'm sure there is a Tauros farm somewhere in the anime too, and since Tauros don't breed or produce milk, the only reason one would farm them is to slaughter them.

Tropius' fruit is eaten by people, though that doesn't really count.

There are either two explanations :

Firstly, and more improbably, because the islands/regions in Pokemon are meant to be certain regions of Japan, it could be that Pokemon only exist in those particular places and nowhere else in the world. Pokemon scare off other animals such as cows and sheep and so that is why theyre never seen. If they want meat, they either poach Pokemon (which is frowned upon as they are meant to be rare, I think) or have the meat imported.

Secondly, and more likely, people do actually eat Pokemon, but because Pokemon is marketed at kids and are meant to be loveable creatures and mascots and not just animals which one can either battle with or eat, the issue of people eaten Pokemon is never really raised. Therefore, Nintendo are purposefully keeping it a grey area to avoid controversy.

I can see it now....



Pokemon behind the scenes, Ash gets hungry, and takes a look at Pikachu, "Pikachu... TIME TO TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM!!"

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h243/frylock284/pikachuintrouble-1.jpg

"Some things aren't meant to be explained..." That's what several thousand parents would have to say about that

Houndoom_Lover
28th August 2006, 12:42 PM
Is there enough meat on a pikachu? I'm sure if we grilled a Riachu (Spelled wrong. I know) there would be enough for four people. The fat rat.

lordsalamence
28th August 2006, 02:29 PM
oh, how's about we grill a magikarp instead? It has a LOT more meat than Raichu...mmm....steamed Magikarp...yum.

Silencer
28th August 2006, 02:44 PM
I wonder if you could put jigglypuff or clefairy on a stick, or would they go pop? It just seems like they are balloons and the anime has thaught us that jigglypuff can inflate.

Houndoom_Lover
28th August 2006, 06:31 PM
Mm! Jiggilypuff could be cream filled!! *drools* And then covered in chocolate and froze. Oh, god. I need a cream puff now!

lordsalamence
28th August 2006, 07:18 PM
well, I either way, just want to skewer those things with my pocket knife, and that's enough to make me satisfied.

frylock
28th August 2006, 08:27 PM
well, I either way, just want to skewer those things with my pocket knife, and that's enough to make me satisfied.

I am sure your parents would be proud :what:

Crazy Elf Boy
28th August 2006, 08:53 PM
What about some fried Wailord since the show is Japanese and everything. Or go hunt some Stantler.

lordsalamence
28th August 2006, 09:21 PM
I am sure your parents would be proud :what:



well, my mom would be FURIOUS since she raises those things......

frylock
28th August 2006, 09:32 PM
Your Mom raises Jigglypuffs? :confused:

I don't think you could eat Blissey eggs, donesn't it say if you do that it give you a curse or something?

I wonder how dragon pokemon taste, LordSalamence's avatar is making me hungry...

lordsalamence
28th August 2006, 10:25 PM
Your Mom raises Jigglypuffs? :confused:

I don't think you could eat Blissey eggs, donesn't it say if you do that it give you a curse or something?

I wonder how dragon pokemon taste, LordSalamence's avatar is making me hungry...


YOUR avatar is making ME hungry.

frylock
28th August 2006, 10:32 PM
I wonder if yuo ate a Xatu, would you gain psychic powers? You're right, they do look pretty tasty.

lordsalamence
28th August 2006, 10:38 PM
my mom also raises jigglypuffs and other pokemon that look like fluffy puff marshmellow mascots on her team......it IS pretty well-balanced, though.

frylock
28th August 2006, 10:50 PM
Oh, your Mom plays Pokemon too? I was worried for a minute there. You like Homestar Runner too?

Crazy Elf Boy
29th August 2006, 12:29 AM
If you dont be quite I will eat you both in a minute. I haven't eaten in half a minute so I am very hungry.

darktyranitar
29th August 2006, 08:09 AM
Are they both edible?

Hey, I just thought of something: What if a Pokemon died? There could be bacteria in the air and ground, but what about other decomposer? Worms and ants? Surely, imagine how long it would take for Pokemon to decay only on bacterias and weathers.

Or maybe the Pokemon body are specialised to undergo a fast decaying process when they pass away? Or maybe some other Pokemon will eat them? Speaking of which, what does the Houndoom and the Mightyena family eats? Little kids?

Jiggly-on-a-stick sounds kinda weird; like Silencer says, they might just go pop!

*Looks at a few post above*

@lordsalamence: Your mom play Pokemon? Jigglypuff? What do you know; I also have a strange liking into Jigglypuff. Never include them in my team, though.

frylock
29th August 2006, 09:02 AM
Maybe Mightyena and Houndooms eat dead Pokemon. They look carnivorous, but I don't think people would raise them if they ate litle kids.

Silencer
29th August 2006, 09:12 AM
No mightyena, put down Bobby. Put him down now. Stop mauling him! Bad dog, bad.

XD

Lady Vulpix
29th August 2006, 09:49 AM
I think it's time for the topic to resume its course.

Some mentions have been made to animals in the anime, so they probably exist but are not shown. On the other hand, most pokemon can also be considered animals, and they have flesh, so they're likely to be edible too (and references to people and pokemon eating pokemon have also been made). Whether eating pokemon is frowned upon or not is bound to depend on the culture.

Houndoom_Lover
29th August 2006, 10:25 AM
Speaking of which, what does the Houndoom and the Mightyena family eats?

Houndoom and Mightyena (Mightyena tick me off, the same Pokemon only suckier and not fire,but anywho) are just like Hyena's and wolfs. They hunt in packs and take down kill, and steal kill, and eat dead thing...or anything that's moving. They're really not all the picky.(Just my opion, buuuut...it's right =^-^=S) . Ever notice, where there are Houndour there are always like a Stantler near by, say, a road or two over, or a Giferfar? I'm sure physic pokemon make easy kill. They'd have to kill at least twice a day, depending on the size of their pack. Really, a single Mightyena or Houndoom could take down the Giferfar or whatever it's called and not be hungery all day.

Silencer
29th August 2006, 12:33 PM
Plus Houndoom have a built in BBQ. If pokémon would hunt in the wild, would they consider type advanteges or will the advantage of surprice be enough? Also would psychics eat meat or would they be so wise that they can survive off of plants and be completely enlightened.

frylock
29th August 2006, 12:39 PM
Metagross is supposedly super intelligent, and he's a vicious carnivore.

Houndoom_Lover
29th August 2006, 04:29 PM
Plus Houndoom have a built in BBQ. If pokémon would hunt in the wild, would they consider type advanteges or will the advantage of surprice be enough? Also would psychics eat meat or would they be so wise that they can survive off of plants and be completely enlightened.

Crap! Do psychics like Mewtwo and Alakazam even need to eat? They seem other worldy by that stage...I doubt it. And Houndoom strike fear in to all! Their howls stop even mighty Tyranitar in it's tracks...and then I suppose frying it would be enough or just muchy.

Lady Vulpix
29th August 2006, 06:30 PM
Having strong psychic powers doesn't negate physical needs. The strongest mind can't work well in a starving body.

frylock
29th August 2006, 08:02 PM
Having strong psychic powers doesn't negate physical needs. The strongest mind can't work well in a starving body.

Well, if you had psychicness then you could float over and make yourself a sandwhich. And if you were fighting a machamp you could use psyionic abilities to make him make you a sandwhich!

mr_pikachu
29th August 2006, 10:24 PM
Having strong psychic powers doesn't negate physical needs. The strongest mind can't work well in a starving body.

Well, I think the question there is whether such a mystical being would obtain energy in the same way that humans do (i.e. eating and digesting food). Someone earlier suggested photosynthesis, although I think that would be more appropriate for Grass Pokemon. I'm almost wondering about drawing energy from the world (or the other Pokemon and people!) nearby. Call it spiritual energy, chi, chakra, whatever... When you have tiny creatures spewing fire from their jaws, commanding surges of electricity, and generally controlling the forces of nature, anything is possible!

Silencer
30th August 2006, 05:27 AM
I think that is more for ghost pokémon. Drawing out energy from people/pokémon nearby so that they can remain in this world.

Houndoom_Lover
30th August 2006, 04:12 PM
Like those crazy phyic vampire stuff! Alakazam isn't as cool as Kadabra...neither are eadiable, though. ^-^.

Silencer
30th August 2006, 04:30 PM
Gastly has fangs, Haunter has even more sharp teeth but gengar has regular teeth.

My theory is that gastly and haunter need energy to evolve, so they sink their teeth in people to extract some of their energy and if they gather enough, next stage. But since gengar is the last stage, he doesn't need to extract any more energy so he can just have nice regular teeth.

Houndoom_Lover
31st August 2006, 04:07 PM
That's brillent!! I spelled that so wrong! Zubat could do that too. I named my first on Dracula ^-^.

Blademaster
31st August 2006, 04:31 PM
My theory is that gastly and haunter need energy to evolve, so they sink their teeth in people to extract some of their energy and if they gather enough, next stage. But since gengar is the last stage, he doesn't need to extract any more energy so he can just have nice regular teeth.

Or maybe Gengar just brushes and flosses after every meal! :D

Houndoom_Lover
31st August 2006, 04:34 PM
My Mom flossed a tooth out of her head the other day! Remember to brush!!

Silencer
31st August 2006, 04:55 PM
How do you get teeth out of your head? I thought they were in your mouth. What kind of creature is your mom?

Blademaster
31st August 2006, 04:57 PM
(sigh)

And where is your mouth, Silencer...? :sweat:

Silencer
31st August 2006, 04:58 PM
Well it's on my head but it so weird to hear someone say "pull a teeth out of her head". Sounds like she pulled it from her scalp or her ear or for the nastiest vision possible, out of her eye.

Lady Vulpix
1st September 2006, 08:39 AM
Houndoom_Lover, stop spamming. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion, then find something better to do with your time.

Houndoom_Lover
1st September 2006, 08:28 PM
...How am I spamming? *goes to hide in a box by a cornor*

Well, on a food related topic...I guess. You know those Pokeblocks, why don't our pokemon require to be feed on the games? 0_0. How do you know what pokeblock inceases coolness? Because, I rather need to know that -_-

I demand Spoink! I shall go get Spoink jerky to end my depression. *leaves the thread, since I suck apparently*

Blademaster
1st September 2006, 08:44 PM
(sigh)

Houndoom_Lover, calm down - just keep things related to the thread title and you'll be fine.

Besides, lordsalamence hasn't been banned yet, so I doubt you have too much to worry about. ;)

Gabi, please go easy on her - I know her; she's not trying to be annoying. She's just got a short attention span.

And not to be annoying myself, but does anyone have an answer to my earlier question? Can vegetarians eat Grass Pokemon like Bellsprout? What about Grass-types like Chikorita? Meat group or vegetable group?

And, here's something to REALLY think about - vegetarians don't eat meat because it's murder, or it's unhealthy, but there are places in the world where they eat bugs...

So......

What about Shedinja? Is it meat? Is it edible? Is it even alive!? If somebody in Somoa or Mexico or someplace else where they eat bugs just broke a wing off that Shedinja and ate it, would the Shedinja even notice? Would it care? How much of Shedinja does there have to be for it to exist? Am I asking too many questions?

I need to know! :confused:

frylock
1st September 2006, 09:38 PM
Good point, I don't think a vegetarian would eat a Chikorita, since the idea of vegetarians is usaully animal cruelty, so most vegetarians would probably not eat a Chikorita, since it would be killing an animal. That would include any living pokemon as well I'm guessing...

There are berries in the pokeworld, so that would be one of their few food sources.

Silencer
2nd September 2006, 04:42 AM
What about Shedinja? Is it meat? Is it edible? Is it even alive!? If somebody in Somoa or Mexico or someplace else where they eat bugs just broke a wing off that Shedinja and ate it, would the Shedinja even notice? Would it care? How much of Shedinja does there have to be for it to exist? Am I asking too many questions?

I need to know! :confused:

-Not meat
-I don't think so
-As a ghost I would figure not
-I think breaking of a wing is as hard as breaking a gengars leg
-Probably not
-Just the head
-Yes

Blademaster
2nd September 2006, 04:52 AM
-I think breaking of a wing is as hard as breaking a gengars leg

Yeah, but Shedinja is just a hollow shell...

Well, whatever - I really doubt anybody would eat a Shedinja, anyway... XP

Silencer
2nd September 2006, 06:19 AM
What I'm trying to say is that I don't think it is possible as a gengar probably doesn't have any bones to break.

frylock
2nd September 2006, 10:35 AM
I don't think you could eat any of a Shedinja, since it is basically a Sicada shell, and even if it was full of protein, it would crumble.

Houndoom_Lover
2nd September 2006, 05:05 PM
*sulks back in* If they're like worms, then they could live with just their heads..or, whatever bug does that. Think about it, icky bug ninja floating around with out a head?! I'd freak.

frylock
2nd September 2006, 07:22 PM
I don't think Shedinja really exists, in a materialistic way, so you can't really bit its head off.

Blademaster
3rd September 2006, 02:13 AM
It's a shed skin - it has to exist in some material way.

Most Ghost Pokemon represent the spiritual aspect of being a ghost; Shedinja is an exception - it represents the dead body, which makes absolutely no sense, I know, but it's Pokemon - stranger things have happened. :rolleyes:

Houndoom_Lover
3rd September 2006, 02:35 PM
0_0. Back to the eating ghost topic. That attack, Dream Eat and Drosy or whatever. It just lives off of dreams, so what if it eats a black and white dream? Does it act out re-runs XD

Elec Man EXE
5th September 2006, 10:14 AM
Not all the others are spirits either... Shuppet and Banette are supposed to be possessed puppets, which to me means they have a semi-solid form as well. Unless they're just supposed to "represent" dolls, but I think they're supposed to be real.

Lady Vulpix
5th September 2006, 12:44 PM
The discussion about ghost pokemon is interesting. If I wasn't at work right now, and I wasn't feeling sick, I'd post a topic to continue that discussion. Being as it is, I invite any of you to post it.

Back to the topic of eating pokemon, I think it would depend on the person whether or not to eat them. There could be new eating habits, like eating animals but not pokemon, or eating only certain kinds of pokemon (for those who avoid meat for health reasons). For those who want to avoid cruelty, I think all pokemon would be on the ban list, except for the parts that can be removed painlessly and then regrow, like Tropius's fruits.

I wonder how many would drink the water from a Water Gun and similar attacks.

Elec Man EXE
5th September 2006, 12:51 PM
I don't think I'd want to drink water that came out of a pokemon's mouth :p

frylock
5th September 2006, 12:56 PM
Acttually, I gave it some thought, and I think a Shedinja could not survive being eaten at all. If you ate a Chckorita's leg, it would definately lose some HP, and a Shedinja only has 1, so tachnically if anything hit Shedinja it would be crushed, and its spirit would be put to rest or something, because if you ever found a sicada shell you would know that they crumble easily. Once you ripped a leg off, it would probably die.

Houndoom_Lover
5th September 2006, 04:29 PM
But would eating it count as a Criditical Hit? I mean, if it doesn't, you could just eat them again...and again. Or they'd blow your stomach up!

mr_pikachu
5th September 2006, 04:37 PM
I'm not certain that it has a tangible body, though. Consider the Togepi/Togetic episodes in Hoenn (the ones that brought Misty back for awhile). Remember how some of the attacks went straight through its body? I think that something can only touch it if Shedinja's spirit is weak to that particular power. For instance, its spirit - its soul - is vulnerable against flames.

Now, don't ask me to explain how Flying moves, which are inherently reliant on existence in the physical plane, can damage Shedinja under this classification of "spiritual weakness." I haven't figured out quite that much yet. But it's an in-progress explanation with a bit of basis in the anime.

frylock
5th September 2006, 05:31 PM
I'm not certain that it has a tangible body, though. Consider the Togepi/Togetic episodes in Hoenn (the ones that brought Misty back for awhile). Remember how some of the attacks went straight through its body? I think that something can only touch it if Shedinja's spirit is weak to that particular power. For instance, its spirit - its soul - is vulnerable against flames.

Now, don't ask me to explain how Flying moves, which are inherently reliant on existence in the physical plane, can damage Shedinja under this classification of "spiritual weakness." I haven't figured out quite that much yet. But it's an in-progress explanation with a bit of basis in the anime.

Well, since the show is the most official thing there really is almost, I'll agree, but if Shedinja was actually a shedded skin it would actually just about break if anything hit it. Shedded skins are basically just proteins and such hardened, but they still break extremely easily. Who knows!

Blademaster
5th September 2006, 05:48 PM
For those who want to avoid cruelty, I think all pokemon would be on the ban list, except for the parts that can be removed painlessly and then regrow, like Tropius's fruits.

I wonder, on the topic of fruit-producing Pokemon, how Exeggutor's cocnuts would be handled. If a head falls off, it becomes an Exeggcute, right? Does that mean that despite Exeggcute's egglike visage, it maybe tastes like a coconut? Or maybe Exeggutor's heads taste like eggs... Maybe like those Cadbury Easter eggs... Heh, Barry would love that. :rolleyes:

BTW, get well soon, Gabi. :)

Lady Vulpix
5th September 2006, 06:26 PM
Thanks, Blademaster.

I wouldn't try eating one, but aren't they related to seeds? They may be quite bitter.

Blademaster
5th September 2006, 06:42 PM
Eh, beats me... I guess it'd depend mostly on what type of seeds Exeggcute is/is related to...

(sigh)

Stupid confusing Pokemon... If Exeggcute was closely related to a nut instead of a seed, this would be a lot easier to understand... :sweat:

Silencer
6th September 2006, 05:20 AM
If you were a trainer and pokémon are eaten all over the world, would you manage to eat a pokémon that's on your team? This could be redirected to the real world aswell. If you own a Golden Retriever and you go to China, could you manage to eat a dish that has Golden Retriever meat in it? (I think eating dogs isn't allowed in China but it used to be quiet a delicassy)

Houndoom_Lover
7th September 2006, 05:18 PM
Heck, if I was hungry enough I'd eat a Pokemon. Jessie and James and Meowth are hungry all the time- They want Pikacu for the meat by now XD Screw the boss!

Mewfour
7th September 2006, 08:08 PM
I honestly don't think it's like the real world at all. Would YOU try to f**k with a fire-breathing chicken? With that said I think they only eat the weak and gangly ones who are dead soon anyway. No wonder all the humans look so skinny and huge-eyed. </rimshot>

Houndoom_Lover
9th September 2006, 12:34 PM
XD Oh my god! It's true!! And the fat people are the ones who live off of pokemon because every one knows pokemon are 99% fat.

Silencer
9th September 2006, 12:50 PM
But in the pokéworld they have big robots that can just walk up to the pokémon and just grab it. Most likely it will be fireproof with airconditioning inside. I mean you could also use a net like J&J do alot of times. All pokémon struggle and don't seem to manage to pull of something as a flamethrower.

Houndoom_Lover
9th September 2006, 05:33 PM
Man, when you think about it, hy don't J and J fry up Meowth and eat him? With soy sause.

mr_pikachu
9th September 2006, 05:36 PM
Well, the way I see it, Meowth's ability to translate Pokemon speech to the human language and vice-versa constitutes the complete extent of the team's unique talents. So without him, they'd really be a bunch of complete losers.

Not to mention that Meowth has claws. Claws can hurt a little when they dig deep into your flesh.

Houndoom_Lover
9th September 2006, 06:46 PM
XD You're right...Hey 0_0, Meowth, do they eat mice pokemon?

rinku
9th November 2006, 08:34 PM
Well, the way I see it, Meowth's ability to translate Pokemon speech to the human language and vice-versa constitutes the complete extent of the team's unique talents. So without him, they'd really be a bunch of complete losers.

They're hardly winners WITH him... :)

If you read through the game text, there are quite a few mentions of wild pokémon preying on each other. There's definitely a circle of life going on out there that the show glosses over a bit.

However... it's also possible that the pokémon raised as farm animals are considered different to the wild ones, as in real life (even if they really aren't, as in real life).

Tropius' bananas are mentioned as edible, I think.

mr_pikachu
9th November 2006, 11:00 PM
Yes, I believe Tropius' fruits are even mentioned in one of the new anime episodes as being edible. Presumably the "eating a Pokemon" isn't a problem in that case because it's sort of a regenerating, extra appendage that doesn't kill or hurt Tropius to be removed. When you think about it in that context, Deoxys being blasted was worse.

In general, though, eating part or all of a Pokemon is only referenced in-game. Rattata is apparently the prey of the RBY birds, for instance.

Blademaster
9th November 2006, 11:40 PM
That there's what we call the food chain. :D

Still, eating some Pokemon may have been easier than others - could you imagine cavemen trying to catch, kill, and eat an Aerodactyl? That could've been entertaining...

Silencer
10th November 2006, 02:42 AM
I would be more intrested to see how they try to go on a Kabutops. He has swords, they have clubs REALLY fair match-up if you ask me :rolleyes:

darktyranitar
10th November 2006, 03:27 AM
If they were going to survive, then they'd probably be training some young cub- maybe a Growlithe or Houndour- until they're big enough that they can prey those prehistoric animals.

Or maybe humans don't exist in the same time as the pre-historic Pokemon :).

Phoenixsong
25th November 2006, 12:31 AM
If we want to use a realistic timeline, then no. Aerodactyl (along with the new dinosaurs Zugaidos, Tatetops and whatnot) would have been long before humans... and Kabutops, being a trilobite-type-critter, would have been even earlier. Now, if there was a sabertoothed tiger or woolly mammoth Pokémon, then we can talk caveman food. I guess they might have eaten Swinub/Piloswine/Manmuu, though.

I have an interesting thing to report. People say they've never seen real animals in the anime and such (except for whoever it was that mentioned the dog)... I have. Think back, waaaaay back, to the first-season episode "The Sisters of Cerulean City" (I believe that's what it was called). Misty's sisters do their mermaid act, and afterwards Ash wanders through the basement looking for them so he can challenge them. First he passes a sign with a Magikarp and an arrow on it, pointing to an aquarium... well, he gets to the aquarium, but those swimmy-things in the tank sure ain't Magikarp. Or Goldeen. Or Horsea. Or anything remotely Pokémon-like at all. The entire aquarium contains nothing but normal fish, like angelfish and dolphin fish and what have you. So I think we can safely say that there's a chance their seafood, if nothing else, doesn't have to come from Pokémon.

Blademaster
25th November 2006, 01:02 PM
If we want to use a realistic timeline, then no. Aerodactyl (along with the new dinosaurs Zugaidos, Tatetops and whatnot) would have been long before humans... and Kabutops, being a trilobite-type-critter, would have been even earlier. Now, if there was a sabertoothed tiger or woolly mammoth Pokémon, then we can talk caveman food. I guess they might have eaten Swinub/Piloswine/Manmuu, though.

Actually, according to the anime, Aerodactyl, Kabutops, and the like were around only 4 million years ago - ergo, they showed up about the same time as early humans/humanoids, so it is plausible that the two coexisted at some point.

Of course, back then the Aerodactyls and Armaldos were probably the ones doing the hunting... :eek:

Silencer
25th November 2006, 01:23 PM
*Imagens pokémon catching humans and bragging that they caught a lvl99 man or woman*

Anyway, another sign that leads to believing that there are real animals in the anime. I think that there were numerous of times where J&J start thinking about stuff as sushi and meals involving meat and I could swear that I heard Ash say that he wanted a hamburger once. They could get that from Tauros but I don't really believe it since the sushi images show a lot of reallife like fishies.

mr_pikachu
25th November 2006, 01:57 PM
Heck, whenever the gang gets into a town, Ash rants about one of two things: either a Gym battle (or equivalent contest) or a cheeseburger. We've had several debates about that one.

I'd forgotten about the Cerulean City scene, actually. I need to go back and watch it myself, but I'm pretty sure I remember what you're talking about now, Phoenixsong. Weird.

In terms of hunting Kabutops... what would be the point? It certainly doesn't look like you could get good food from it. The only plausible explanation I can think of would be to fashion the scythes into weapons, but it seems a little rash considering the enormous losses they would likely incur in taking out just a single Kabutops.

absol_ninetales
7th December 2006, 12:50 AM
Me and my friend once made a pokemon restaurant, because we were discussing this topic...we vame up with loads of weird ideas like combusken soup...

maybe on the TV show, they really eat pokemon. It's possible. Though I wouldn't want to eat combusken thighs in soup... T_T||| It's weird, isn't it?