View Full Version : Should I keep my hoothoot?

20th April 2010, 08:30 AM
It's really bothering me. But boyfriend Soong has a Pidgey, and so I don't want to have the same flying pokemon as him.

Should I persevere with Hoothoot, although it's really hard to train, or should I ditch it while I still can? If I ditch it, what should I catch as part of my team?

20th April 2010, 10:47 AM
Hoothoot can be tutored to learn Heat Wave.


20th April 2010, 11:34 AM
Noctowl is a pokemon with good HP and Sp.Def, so he can take some hits. Its's got Reflect to boost its Defense, Roost to heal and Hypnosis to annoy. It's special attack is its best offensive stat, but only 76, so mediocre at best. Still, it means that ingame you should give it Air Slash for offense.

As you can see its offense is its biggest weakness, but Night Shade is a nice way to make up for that.

A very defensive bird.

Knight of Time
20th April 2010, 01:06 PM
When it comes to training certain Pokemon, there is at least one good nature that Smogon recommends for them in their final form, for example, with Noctowl, the nature of choice is Calm, and the ability of choice there is Insomnia. 252 HP, 252 Special Defense, and 4 Speed EVs are good.

20th April 2010, 01:35 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about natures and EVs in game though, unless you were training it for the Battle Frontier.

20th April 2010, 02:44 PM
I have never used a hoothoot, but whenever I play a pokemon game I always use a zubat. It is really hard to train, due to its sucky moves, but once it learns wing attack it gets pretty ok.

Knight of Time
20th April 2010, 03:19 PM
Yeah, training a Pokemon with a specific nature, ability, and moveset is very important for the Battle Frontier, but that's also good for competitive battling, too bad I only have Windows 7 on my laptop, which doesn't seem to work for Wi-Fi, thus meaning I can't reach anyone yet.

20th April 2010, 03:30 PM
Crobat's one of my favorites to use in game. Its speed along with some of its moves make it pretty handy.

Ultimate Charizard
20th April 2010, 04:53 PM
I loved Crobat. Its a good annoyer with a fairly decent attack pool. I had one on Platinum that was an absolute beast. It took out Gyms all by itself.

Im currently using an Aerodactyl too since theyre pretty powerfull however if its an actual 'Bird' pokemon you want rather than a flying type then im guessing ur pretty limited.

If its just 'i want a flying type' remember there are things like Salamence, Gyarados, Gliscor and Charizard that fall under flying types.

25th April 2010, 01:19 AM
I'm just no good at things like move sets, and stats and EV training is just beyond me. So really, I want a bird pokemon/flying type/something I can keep as part of my team. And I didn't want a Pidgey because I want a different yet strong team to beat soong :)

It's coming along quite nicely as a Noctowl now, less frustrating, and it looks hilarious when it follows me so that's a bonus :)

But, recommended moveset for Noctowl?

25th April 2010, 05:26 PM
Roost, Psychic, Air Slash, and Shadow Ball is what I would use.

25th April 2010, 07:10 PM
My Noctowl would have Roost, Night Shade, Hypnosis and Whirlwind. Noctowl has poor offensive stats, but Night Shade ignores that. Roost for recovery (and it has good HP and Sp.Def for tanking capabilities), Hypnosis for sleep and Whirlwind if your opponent tries stat-ups (Calm mind etc.); or if you have a Spiker. You can also put opponent to sleep and then Whirlwind their entire team to sleep it it's not claused (ordinary linkbattles allow everything IIRC).

Ofcourse ingame you'd probably need Air Slash/Psychic/Shadowball to train and get through the game.

Still, it's an alternative set.

25th April 2010, 11:31 PM
^Cool copy-pasted-from-Smogon moveset, bro.

26th April 2010, 07:21 AM
I'm guessing every site has the same set.. What else can Noctowl do?

26th April 2010, 01:20 PM
...Roost, Air Slash, Heat Wave, Hyper Beam? :D

26th April 2010, 07:10 PM

27th April 2010, 12:54 AM
yay i will have best noctowl ever.
is it bad to have an offensive noctowl?

27th April 2010, 03:46 AM
No, Noctowl has really sucky attack; sp.atk is better (76), but still not awesome. However, Airslash and the likes is the best go for an offensive set. You're just not using Noctowl to its fullest potential then, but that shouldn't be to big of a problem ingame.

27th April 2010, 07:56 AM
I should try for an offensive Noctowl to murder you with.

See what I can finagle... :O

27th April 2010, 01:45 PM
31 IV Sp. Attack 252 EV Sp. Attack Noctowl is coming for your soul.

28th April 2010, 06:51 PM
Go for Chatot if you want offensive.

29th April 2010, 01:59 PM
In every sense of the word. :heh:

7th October 2017, 08:01 AM
Yes keep your fucking hoothoot

28th March 2018, 04:28 AM
I wouldn't worry too much about natures and EVs in game though, unless you are here (https://fancasinogame.com) training it for the Battle Frontier.

My thoughs exactly!

30th March 2018, 03:18 AM
It's settled, then. :cool2:

Lady Vulpix
30th March 2018, 10:14 AM
Is Tara even checking this anymore? For all we know, she made the decision years ago.

2nd April 2018, 05:01 AM
This does not make barclay's thoughs any less valid. :mad2: