Let me get this straight... *Spoilers*

[Too Cool Scyther]

Did Professor Odamaki give Ash a Treecko or did Ash have to catch one on his own? I'm totally clueless

[RaichuRocks]

he catches one in the next episode in Japan

only beginners can select a pokemon

[RedStarWarrior]

Yeah he catches it all right. I am figuring that he will probably catch all three of the starters because he did in Indigo.

[Rei_Zero]

No, it is already proven Haruka gets Torchic and Brock gets Mudkip and I doubt the writers will make the team have two of each.

[Too Cool Scyther]

Thanks for letting me know that Ash catches it and not receives it.

But I wonder why Brock gets a Mudkip...

A: He trying to get Water Pokemon to be the new Misty.
B: He's a trainer now.
C: He caught it by accident.
D: Professor Odamaki gave it to him somehow.
E: Mudkip could be his favorite Pokémon.

Any more ideas?

[rebellee1187]

the fact mudkip is part ground?

[RJdude]

He about he saw it in the wild, and it didn't have a trainer, so he decided to catch it. Wow, who would ever think of that?

[AKA Pokemon Fan]

Indeed, I don't know where anyone got the idea that Brock only trains Rock types. His gym was Rock type yes but a Pokemon Breeder doesn't limit himself to certain types.

[Too Cool Scyther]

Originally posted by rebellee1187
the fact mudkip is part ground?

Mudkip is part ground? I don't think it's a good idea for a starting pokemon to be part something...

but then again bulbasaur was grass/poison.. oh well.

But AKA Pokemon Fan. It seems to be known that Gym Leaders only use and will only catch the type of Pokemon that his/her Gym users. So Brock should stick with Rock. I thought he only got Vulpix was because he loved Suzie... But of course, he's not a Gym Leader anymore

[RyuukoAremi]

(Spoiler) Brock also catches a Hasuboo. I have no idea WHY he'll have two part-water pokemon (Well, Mudkip isn't part ground, his evos are. But he SHOULD evolve him.. ). Hopefully he won't turn into the water person.

[Venasaur89]

There's a totally different epsiode on Pokemon Plant. It says that Odamaki gives ash a treecko, haruka a torchic, and brock a mudkip.

[Topaz Pochena]

O yea, in te special of Brock going back to Pewter City we learn his mother is a Water Trainer. So Brock probaly decides to get Mudkip because it represents both of his parents' type specialities: Water and Ground.

[pokefreak04]

Originally posted by Too Cool Scyther
but then again bulbasaur was grass/poison.. oh well.
And Bashamo is part Fighting type too! Mudkip doesn't become part ground type till he evolves. Anyway, back to the topic, I think Brock might capture a Mudkip later on. Ash will catch Treecko in the next episode in Japan, and of course, Haruka already has Torchic<I hope her Torchic evolves!!!>.

[Fox8642]

pics of intro found here:
http://www.pokevalley.com/~pokemon/site/anime/screencap/jagintro2.php


show that Haruka has Agehunto and Torchic(of course)
that Brock has Mudkip and Hasuboo
and that Jesse and james have Sabonea and Habuneeku

[Guardian Lugia]

Originally posted by Venasaur89
There's a totally different epsiode on Pokemon Plant. It says that Odamaki gives ash a treecko, haruka a torchic, and brock a mudkip.

Then Pokemon Plant (or it's soursces) are giving away the wrong info. Brock first appears in the episode Ash catches subame and in the first advance episode epi pictures I only saw Haruka getting Torchic. Ahd didn't get a Pokemobnat all

[BenRG]

Originally posted by RyuukoAremi
(Spoiler) Brock also catches a Hasuboo. I have no idea WHY he'll have two part-water pokemon (Well, Mudkip isn't part ground, his evos are. But he SHOULD evolve him.. ). Hopefully he won't turn into the water person. I take this as proof that the Pokémon intended for Brock were originally intended for Misty. Why they swapped her with Brock is a mystery. Maybe The Powers That Be decided that putting Ash with two girls would be a turn-off to the pre-teen male audience that is their primary demographic or something.

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We now know that Brock's mother is a water-type specialist. Could Brock have decided to catch water-types to explore this part of his hereditary? After all, from Misty and her Sisters (as well as Brock and Flint) we learn that aptitudes with certain Pokémon are seemingly passed from parents to children.




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Nonetheless, my cynical nature prefers to believe that Brock's sudden conversion to training water-types is a sign of a last-minute character swap with Misty. They simply haven't bothered to re-write the stories where Character #2 catches Pokémon to reflect his rock-type preference.

[LadyWolf]

If anyone has seen the Johto eps in the U.S. in recent time, you will remember the Whirl Cup competition. (for what it was since did not last that long) While the gang was preparing, Brock was shown asking the water trainers what they had to do in order to keep their pokes in top condition. He was furiously taking notes at the time and being totally absorbed in learning what he could. He *IS* the Breeder of the group. And like any good Breeder, you must know all about the different types of pokes. Granted, most of his are ground/rock in some form and Mudkip does turn to half ground (akin to Quagsire) when it evolves. So why not give him some variety for a change. Maybe he will get in a battle or two in the new eps. *shrug* I'd like to see it.

:)

[Rei_Zero]

Brock probably wants to study all types now. He has studied rock and ground types as well as fire (vulpix), flying, and poison (the bats).Now he brought Forretress who is bug/steel so maybe he wants to learn more about water, grass, bug and steel types now. Plus he has never tried to raise such pokemon combos before so it wil probably be a new oppurtunity for him.

[347Studboy]

A lot of you are suggesting that Brock is using Mudkip because it's part Ground. But you forget; Brock was a Rock Gym Leader, not a Ground Gym Leader. The Ground Leader was Giovanni in the game, although he used all kinds of Pokémon in the animé... but I see where the confusion comes from, since most Rock types in RBY were part Ground as well. :D Anyway, obviously Brock didn't always limit himself, since the episode right after he was first introduced brought him to Mt. Moon, where he caught a Zubat. So, don't be too surprised if he catches something non-Rock.

[dark_magician]

I agree 347Studboy. All of you people seem to think Brock has stuck with his gym types but he hasn't. I don't know why you are just noticing his wider variety in taste now. Brock only started with 2 rock/ground types because those are the ones he HAD to have because of the gym. He hasn't gotten a single rock since. Zubat/Golbat/Crobat, Vulpix, and Pineco/Forretress were not rocks, and now he has Mudkip. Ash has Treecko and Haruka has Torchic so it only makes sence that he has Mudkip. They probably gave him Hasuboo because he needs more pokemon and they don't have plans for Ash getting water types anytime soon. You also have to remember that Hasuboo is Water/Grass and Brock has never had a grass type either.

[BenRG]

Originally posted by dark_magician
Pineco/Forretress [was] not rocksActually, Pineco was bug/rock-type and Forretress is bug/steel. You could dance around that one to say that Brock was capturing to type. Vulpix was a gift (from a lovely lady). I don't know the background of how he caught Zubat, but it is, of course, an exception to the rule

[Rei_Zero]

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BenRG, who are you kidding?? Pineco is Bug. Plain. And. Simple. He is not rock. I just checked. Forretress is a bug/steel. So what. He doesn't have a steel type on his team.

[Mew2Too]

Originally posted by BenRG
Actually, Pineco was bug/rock-type and Forretress is bug/steel. You could dance around that one to say that Brock was capturing to type. Vulpix was a gift (from a lovely lady). I don't know the background of how he caught Zubat, but it is, of course, an exception to the rule

Ben, you never saw, "Mystery at Mt. Moon" ? O_o Oh well! not a big deal. Frankly, I disliked that one, anywho. I though it was the first truly annoying episode.

Anyways, I agree with you about the character swap. They probably thought, "Yeah, we'll drop Brock again." Then, they thought it would be better to try something where they would most likely fall on their face with instead of just falling on their face right out. They flunked by replacing Brock, they're flunking now that they replaced Misty. Frankly, I could give a crap what happens to Ash now. The only journey I'm real excited about is my own! The games will and have been selling fine, but I think the anime will fall flat on its butt. It did fine the first week, and then continued to spiral down in ratings. (That's what I've heard, anyway.)

I also now think that Pineco is available in Houen. I'd heard it wasn't, but it seems like they're sticking to a strictly Hoen-caught bunch this time besides Meowth. I guess this will make some peeps sort of happy. To tell you the truth, I was never as big a fan of Pineco as I was of Vulpix. Anyway, that's besides the point.

What pisses me off most is that they took on Masato instead of bringing back Misty. I honestly don't know what they want to accomplish there. It was originally thought that Masato was her ill brother and they were searching Houen for the cure. It turns out that this was mistranslation. They were actually referring to the first episode of AG where Pikachu is ill. So, this really bites me! They had no reason to get rid of Misty. They had enough room for four characters. WTF?!

All of you shouldn't be shaking an angry finger at Haruka for the dump of Misty. The blame should really be put on Masato. He really has no rite to be there. Haruka is a big part of the game, but Masato only says "Good-bye!" to you when you leave Mishiro. I don't know- it's just kind of disturbing if you ask me. I think we may have another "Power Rangers Turbo" situation on our hands. Can you say, "Justinsato?"

[Rei_Zero]

Don't diss Justin. He was cool.
As for Masato, ya he seems kinda useless but I think this could just as easily be Masatos start of the start. For Haruka, it is different in that it is like start of the end.

[Mew2Too]

Originally posted by Rei_Zero
Don't diss Justin. He was cool.
As for Masato, ya he seems kinda useless but I think this could just as easily be Masatos start of the start. For Haruka, it is different in that it is like start of the end.

Sorry. ^_^ I didn't realize you'd read that right away, so be aware I did some mild Justin dissin' in another thread I just replied to. (More or less, I just mentioned "pulling a Justin," as I call it. Bringing in a character that is the same age as the younger audiences to get more viewers.)

As for your other statement, I sure hope you're not saying that Haruka would go and Masato would stay. I would think they're sort of a group, Haruka being the leader. I don't think they'd get rid of Haruka and not Masato. Whether the opposite is true, I am uncertain.

I am less likely to give Masato a chance than to give Haruka a chance. In the games, Haruka was the co-star. (Or the main char, if you played as a girl and named her Haruka.) That counts for something. Masato was hardly in the game. That makes him more expendable, IMO.

[Rei_Zero]

But in the game Masato becomes one of the best trainers (If you call the guy training in Victory Road who you can rechallenge Masato). If that guy in Victory Road is Masato I'd say he has a pretty bright future in pokemon training. They may make a special showing Masato as an older person in a situation like a league comp. or something. That is what I meant by Masato's beginning of the beginning. You have to realize that by the time a trainer starts to train he is beginning the end of his journey as a great pokemon trainer. First comes the interest and the learning and then comes the adventure. Masato could be showing a whole new side to pokemon training that we only get glimpse of through flashbacks from the other characters. That is the significance that Masato could have.

[347Studboy]

Plus, they've already made it a point that he knows more than Ash does, as well as most other experienced trainers. I can't help but wonder what Pokémon he'll end up using... and what strategies he'll use....

I just hope that the older sister/younger brother thing doesn't turn the show into a "7th Heaven" deal.

Oh yeah, Brock has to watch who he's influencing now... heh heh heh....

[Mew2Too]

Originally posted by Rei_Zero
If that guy in Victory Road is Masato I'd say he has a pretty bright future in pokemon training.

Nope! Actually, I never caught that guy's name. He is Dr. Oodamaki's assistant, and was featured in the first episode of the AG anime.

No, Masato is the little kid that screams at you about Oodamki being attacked by Pochena and then just stares into space in front of your rival's house. :P So, Masato isn't the green haired guy in the labcoat. I think that guy would have been prefferable, really.

[BenRG]

Originally posted by 347Studboy
Plus, they've already made it a point that he knows more than Ash does, as well as most other experienced trainers. I can't help but wonder what Pokémon he'll end up using... and what strategies he'll use...I'll stick my neck out here and say that I don't think that Masato will ever become a Trainer in the way that Ash and Haruka are (preparing for the Leagues). They might give him a Pokémon for self-protection (like, maybe the jigsaw racoon, whatever it is called). However, he isn't going to be obsessed with team building, collecting badges or anything like that.

M2Too, I have seen bits of 'Mystery at Mt. Moon'. Most notably Jessie and James sunbathing on the top of the balloon's envelope, Pikachu and Clefairy chatting in their own language (sub the Poké-talk, damn it! :mad: ) and Koffing knocking out Onix with one Tackle.

ASIDE - Damn but that is one strong Pokémon, beating a rock-type with a normal-type attack against a type disadvantage and the strongest defensive Pokémon of all! :yes:

If anything, the presence of Masato has made 'Classic' Brock redundant. Why? Brock and Tracey are the 'oracle' characters, explaining to the two primary characters what is going on and what that odd creature in the middle of the path might be. Masato performs that function in Houen, if I understand correctly. So, they are going to have to explore a totally different side to Brock - the competitive Trainer. You should note that the Boulder Gym episodes have established that Brock doesn't like competitive battling, so this is bizzare move on the scriptwriters' part.

I still say that the producers chickened out of having Ash accompanied by two girls. They could probably see the hentai fanart and the phrase 'ThreesomeShipping' in their minds' eyes. :P

[Mew2Too]

Originally posted by BenRG
M2Too, I have seen bits of 'Mystery at Mt. Moon'. Most notably Jessie and James sunbathing on the top of the balloon's envelope, Pikachu and Clefairy chatting in their own language (sub the Poké-talk, damn it! :mad: ) and Koffing knocking out Onix with one Tackle.

Probably the most notable parts. :)

Rei Zero, I have that name for you. I was browsing BMGf and someone was talking about his name coming up in the new Trainer Eye on the PokeNav. The name of Oodamaki's assitant- the guy you battle often in the game who ends up having Sanaarito and is a very successful trainer- is named Matsuru. He is actually an adult- at least twenty years old.

Masato is actually Haruka's lil' bro who doesn't do much at all in the game. (As I have stated.)