because I suck so much

[Spinarak-Man]

<DarkBot> Sceptic_Tank (SCEPTILE M L100) @LEFTOVERS [TRAIT] OVERGROW [PERSONALITY] MODEST [DVs] 31/30/31/30/30/31 [STAT EXP] 6/0/0/252/252/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 282 [ATTACK] 184 [DEFENSE] 166 [SP. ATK] 338 [SP. DEF] 206 [SPEED] 338
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <LEAF BLADE> <HIDDEN POWER FIRE> <CRUNCH> <DRAGON CLAW>


<DarkBot> Phoebe (MILOTIC M L100) @LEFTOVERS [TRAIT] MARVEL SCALE [PERSONALITY] MODEST [DVs] 31/31/31/31/31/31 [STAT EXP] 212/2/176/0/80/40
<DarkBot> [HP] 384 [ATTACK] 140 [DEFENSE] 238 [SP. ATK] 281 [SP. DEF] 296 [SPEED] 198
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <SURF> <ICE BEAM> <HYPNOSIS> <RECOVER>


<DarkBot> Donald (RHYDON M L100) @LEFTOVERS [TRAIT] LIGHTNINGROD [PERSONALITY] ADAMANT [DVs] 31/31/31/31/31/31 [STAT EXP] 6/252/252/0/0/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 352 [ATTACK] 394 [DEFENSE] 339 [SP. ATK] 113 [SP. DEF] 126 [SPEED] 116
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <EARTHQUAKE> <ROCK SLIDE> <MEGAHORN> <COUNTER>


<DarkBot> Rawr (METAGROSS L100) @LEFTOVERS [TRAIT] CLEAR BODY [PERSONALITY] ADAMANT [DVs] 31/31/30/30/31/30 [STAT EXP] 120/252/0/138/0/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 331 [ATTACK] 405 [DEFENSE] 295 [SP. ATK] 203 [SP. DEF] 215 [SPEED] 209
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <METEOR MASH> <SHADOW BALL> <HIDDEN POWER ROCK> <PSYCHIC>


<DarkBot> Muscle (MACHAMP M L100) @CHOICE BAND [TRAIT] GUTS [PERSONALITY] ADAMANT [DVs] 31/31/30/31/31/30 [STAT EXP] 252/252/0/6/0/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 384 [ATTACK] 394 [DEFENSE] 195 [SP. ATK] 149 [SP. DEF] 205 [SPEED] 147
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <CROSS CHOP> <EARTHQUAKE> <ROCK SLIDE> <HIDDEN POWER GHOST>


<DarkBot> Birdy (SWELLOW M L100) @CHOICE BAND [TRAIT] GUTS [PERSONALITY] ADAMANT [DVs] 31/31/31/31/30/30 [STAT EXP] 6/252/0/252/0/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 262 [ATTACK] 295 [DEFENSE] 156 [SP. ATK] 121 [SP. DEF] 135 [SPEED] 349
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <RETURN> <AERIAL ACE> <HIDDEN POWER GROUND> <QUICK ATTACK>

I'm thinking of ditching metagross since he has been pretty useless thus far. All he does is switch into Regice and then not damage whatever comes out to greet him.

[[McGraw]]

If you go with Modest on Sceptile and HPfire, there is no point maxing out speed, since you will still be slower than Modest Kazam. 330 speed should be the absolute limit, but anything above 307 will usually suffice. Timid, however, will probably prove more beneficial.

Rest is good on Milotic, since it abuses Marvel Scale and is more or less recover/refresh in one.

I like Rhydon to have around 142 speed to hax Regis and -Spd Swamperts, but that's just me. In any case, I'd say take 16 off defense and raise Rhydon's HP to the next leftovers threshold.

Metagross without earthquake gets eaten by other Metagross and Magneton. I don't understand the need for shadow ball, Meteor mash does nearly the same damage when shadow ball is SE. HProck is kind of a waste IMO. Other than for Gyarados, it has no use whatsoever. I'd much sooner have slude bomb for general attacking, haxing Ludicolos and the poison chance. HPfire is also viable if you hate Skarms.

There's nothing like a 200 speed Machamp to outspeed undanced Gyarados, Milotics, Skarms, Magnetons, Metagross, Weezing, Ludicolo, Claydol... you get the picture.

Swellow will always be a Dodrio wannabe unless it is jolly - to outspeed Mr Timid Kazam and friends. Also note that 380 odd speed > most agility Metagross and single danced Salamence/Gyarados. Jolly also means you can ditch quick attack for something else if you want, maybe facade *shrug*

Heracross laughs at this team =[

[TheParadox]

I dont know much about team rating but Psychic on Metagross isnt the best idea as metagross has a low spec attack, i prefer to use Light screen, Toxic, Earthquake or Agility instead of psychic

[GoldDraconian]

Paradox: Have you heard of that Weezing thing? Typically, Psychic will do between 113-127 more HP damage to Weezing than Meteor Mash will, even when Metagross is Adamant. As a side note, Medicham is another thing that can use Psychic vs. Weezings to good effect- IIRC, Medicham can't possibly do more damage to a 252/252/0/6/0/0 Weezing using any physical attack (even with Choice Band attached) than it can with Psychic, no matter how it's set up.

[TheParadox]

Ok but 1. Weezing isn't particularily overused in battles 2. There is still a chance that Metagross will not fight a Weezing if the other tranier uses one and 3. No pokemon is good against everything

Plus Earthquake is generally a better move anyway

and Still the low Spec attack will lower the damage anyway

[Spinarak-Man]

Weezing has actually gained some popularity because people actually discovered that it's good.


Graw you have been most helpful and yes cross does laugh at me. I find something to kill that as Metagross's replacement since it really does nothing but get in its nve meteor mash on a water and die to a random earthquake.

[GoldDraconian]

Ok but 1. Weezing isn't particularily overused in battles 2. There is still a chance that Metagross will not fight a Weezing if the other tranier uses one and 3. No pokemon is good against everything

1. Weezing sees above average use 2. Weezing is quite likely to come out against Metagross in order to Will-O-Wisp and ruin his Attack stat 3. That doesn't stop you from covering as much as possible

Plus Earthquake is generally a better move anyway

I agree. Earthquake over Shadow Ball is the change I would make, however.

and Still the low Spec attack will lower the damage anyway

I don't know if you got the message last time, so let me try again. Psychic from this Metagross against a typical Weezing will outdamage Meteor Mash, which is the second most powerful move Metagross could pull on Weezing. Psychic will hurt Weezing more than anything else Metagross could pull on it unless it's a Weezing with a ton of Special Defense and no Defense, in which case the user is an idiot. Even with a low SpAtk, Psychic gets STAB and is SE vs. Weezing.

[Spinarak-Man]

Thanks GD... I really didn't want to bother explaining it to him. >_<

[GoldDraconian]

I suppose I should rate the team, since I've posted twice already. =\

<DarkBot> Sceptic_Tank (SCEPTILE M L100) @LEFTOVERS [TRAIT] OVERGROW [PERSONALITY] MODEST [DVs] 31/30/31/30/30/31 [STAT EXP] 6/0/0/252/252/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 282 [ATTACK] 184 [DEFENSE] 166 [SP. ATK] 338 [SP. DEF] 206 [SPEED] 338
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <LEAF BLADE> <HIDDEN POWER FIRE> <CRUNCH> <DRAGON CLAW>

I'd make it Timid personally, but otherwise there really isn't anything to say here.

<DarkBot> Phoebe (MILOTIC M L100) @LEFTOVERS [TRAIT] MARVEL SCALE [PERSONALITY] MODEST [DVs] 31/31/31/31/31/31 [STAT EXP] 212/2/176/0/80/40
<DarkBot> [HP] 384 [ATTACK] 140 [DEFENSE] 238 [SP. ATK] 281 [SP. DEF] 296 [SPEED] 198
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <SURF> <ICE BEAM> <HYPNOSIS> <RECOVER>

Put those two from attack into HP. It'll look better.

<DarkBot> Donald (RHYDON M L100) @LEFTOVERS [TRAIT] LIGHTNINGROD [PERSONALITY] ADAMANT [DVs] 31/31/31/31/31/31 [STAT EXP] 6/252/252/0/0/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 352 [ATTACK] 394 [DEFENSE] 339 [SP. ATK] 113 [SP. DEF] 126 [SPEED] 116
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <EARTHQUAKE> <ROCK SLIDE> <MEGAHORN> <COUNTER>

Jeez, why did you ask for a rating on this team? You're not giving anything that needs rating...

<DarkBot> Rawr (METAGROSS L100) @LEFTOVERS [TRAIT] CLEAR BODY [PERSONALITY] ADAMANT [DVs] 31/31/30/30/31/30 [STAT EXP] 120/252/0/138/0/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 331 [ATTACK] 405 [DEFENSE] 295 [SP. ATK] 203 [SP. DEF] 215 [SPEED] 209
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <METEOR MASH> <SHADOW BALL> <HIDDEN POWER ROCK> <PSYCHIC>

I'd put Quake over Shadow Ball. What do you use SB on, really?

<DarkBot> Muscle (MACHAMP M L100) @CHOICE BAND [TRAIT] GUTS [PERSONALITY] ADAMANT [DVs] 31/31/30/31/31/30 [STAT EXP] 252/252/0/6/0/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 384 [ATTACK] 394 [DEFENSE] 195 [SP. ATK] 149 [SP. DEF] 205 [SPEED] 147
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <CROSS CHOP> <EARTHQUAKE> <ROCK SLIDE> <HIDDEN POWER GHOST>

Uh-huh.

<DarkBot> Birdy (SWELLOW M L100) @CHOICE BAND [TRAIT] GUTS [PERSONALITY] ADAMANT [DVs] 31/31/31/31/30/30 [STAT EXP] 6/252/0/252/0/0
<DarkBot> [HP] 262 [ATTACK] 295 [DEFENSE] 156 [SP. ATK] 121 [SP. DEF] 135 [SPEED] 349
<DarkBot> [MOVES] <RETURN> <AERIAL ACE> <HIDDEN POWER GROUND> <QUICK ATTACK>

I second the Jolly motion.

If you're looking to drop Metagross and foil Heracrosses... um... Skarmory is obvious, but it kinda sucks.