Misty
30th January 2004, 10:30 PM
Yeah, I know there's a fr/lg topic but this is fairly important unto itself.
Anyway, Fire Red/Leaf Green have come up with a way of having our cake and eating it too: We have RS TMs, hold items, AND RBY TMs :O Namely, move tutor moves. The following are known(reprinted and edited from http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=918915&topic=12421912):
TM 01 - Mega Punch - Move Tutor on Route 4
TM 03 - Swords Dance - Move Tutor on Island 7
TM 05 - Mega Kick - Move Tutor on Route 4
TM 08 - Body Slam - Move Tutor on Island 4
TM 10 - Double-Edge - Move Tutor on Victory Road
TM 18 - Counter - Move Tutor in Celadon City
TM 19 - Seismic Toss - Move Tutor in Pewter Museum
TM 31 - Mimic - Move Tutor in Saffron City
TM 35 - Metronome - Move Tutor in Cinnabar Island
TM 41 - Softboiled - Move Tutor in Celadon City
TM 42 - Dream Eater - Move Tutor in Viridian City
TM 45 - Thunder Wave - Move Tutor in Saffron City
TM 47 - Explosion - Move Tutor on Island 1
TM 48 - Rock Slide - Move Tutor in Rock Tunnel
TM 50 - Substitute - Move Tutor in Fuchsia City
Now, some of these, namely Swords Dance, Explosion, Substitute, and Thunder Wave, are going to have a spectacular effect on the metagame. Also notable are the moveset additions. The more notable include Megahorn Nidoking, Superpower Nidoqueen, Megahorn Seaking, Nightmare Gengar, Nightmare Hypno, and so on.
The basic point here is, this has radically changed our ideas about 386. After doing some testing, we discovered that Heracross and Ursaring learn Swords Dance(Sneasel and Gligar do too, which makes them useful in a UU setting). The questions:
1) Will these new movesets create UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUTS OF DOOM!!!1111?
2) What effects do you predict on the metagame?
3) Will this influence your desire to buy Fire Red/Leaf Green? Why/not?
4) Will this influence your desire to play 386 over 200, or vice versa? Why/not?
5) Any particular reasonable-sounding move tutor/pokemon you'd like to check out? #rsbot is working on a preliminary list, but don't expect much in the near future :P Particularly since the VBA codes for RS pokemon are screwed.
Anyway, Fire Red/Leaf Green have come up with a way of having our cake and eating it too: We have RS TMs, hold items, AND RBY TMs :O Namely, move tutor moves. The following are known(reprinted and edited from http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=918915&topic=12421912):
TM 01 - Mega Punch - Move Tutor on Route 4
TM 03 - Swords Dance - Move Tutor on Island 7
TM 05 - Mega Kick - Move Tutor on Route 4
TM 08 - Body Slam - Move Tutor on Island 4
TM 10 - Double-Edge - Move Tutor on Victory Road
TM 18 - Counter - Move Tutor in Celadon City
TM 19 - Seismic Toss - Move Tutor in Pewter Museum
TM 31 - Mimic - Move Tutor in Saffron City
TM 35 - Metronome - Move Tutor in Cinnabar Island
TM 41 - Softboiled - Move Tutor in Celadon City
TM 42 - Dream Eater - Move Tutor in Viridian City
TM 45 - Thunder Wave - Move Tutor in Saffron City
TM 47 - Explosion - Move Tutor on Island 1
TM 48 - Rock Slide - Move Tutor in Rock Tunnel
TM 50 - Substitute - Move Tutor in Fuchsia City
Now, some of these, namely Swords Dance, Explosion, Substitute, and Thunder Wave, are going to have a spectacular effect on the metagame. Also notable are the moveset additions. The more notable include Megahorn Nidoking, Superpower Nidoqueen, Megahorn Seaking, Nightmare Gengar, Nightmare Hypno, and so on.
The basic point here is, this has radically changed our ideas about 386. After doing some testing, we discovered that Heracross and Ursaring learn Swords Dance(Sneasel and Gligar do too, which makes them useful in a UU setting). The questions:
1) Will these new movesets create UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUTS OF DOOM!!!1111?
2) What effects do you predict on the metagame?
3) Will this influence your desire to buy Fire Red/Leaf Green? Why/not?
4) Will this influence your desire to play 386 over 200, or vice versa? Why/not?
5) Any particular reasonable-sounding move tutor/pokemon you'd like to check out? #rsbot is working on a preliminary list, but don't expect much in the near future :P Particularly since the VBA codes for RS pokemon are screwed.