List of FR/LG move tutor compatability what :O

[Misty]

This is a gigantic list compiled by Synre. It is reprinted with permission.

Body Slam
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YEs - Blastoise, Sceptile, Blaziken, Swampert, Mightyena, Linoone, Ludicolo,
Shiftry, Gardevoir, Breloom, Slaking, Exploud, Hariyama, Nosepass, Delcatty,
Sableye, Aggron, Medicham, Manectric, Minun, PLusle, VOlbeat, Illumise,
Roselia, SWalot, Wailord, Camerupt, Grumpig, Spinda, Flygon, Cacturne,
Altaria, Zangoose, Seviper, Lunatone, Solrock, Crawdaunt, Cradily, Armaldo,
Milotic, Castform, Kecleon, Banette, Dusclops, Tropius, Absol, Glalie,
Walrein, Huntail, GOrebyss, Relicanth, Salamence, Metagross, REgirock,
Regice, Registeel, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Kirachi,
Deoxys, Raticate, Venusaur, CHarizard, Arbok, Raichu, Sandslash, Nidoqueen,
Idoking, Celfable, Ninetales, Wigglytuff, Vileplume, Parasect, Dugtrio,
Persian, GOlduck, Primeape, Arcanine, Poliwrath, Alakazam, Machamp,
Vileplume, Golem, Rapidash, Slowbro, Farfetch'd, Dodrio, Muk, Dewgong,
Gengar, Hypno, Kingler, Marowak, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Lickitung, Rhydon,
Blissey, Tangela, Kangaskahn, Mr. Mime, Jynx, Electabuzz, Magmar, Pinsir,
Tauros, Gyarados, Vaporeon, Jolteon, Flareon, Omastar, Kabutops, Snorlax,
Dragonite, Mewtwo, Meganium, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Furret, Ariados,
Togetic, Ampharos, Azumarril, Sudowoodo, POlitoed, Quagisre, Espeon,
Umbreon, Girafarig, Forretress, Dunsparce, Steelix, Granbull, Heracross,
Shuckle, Ursaring, Magcargo, Piloswine, Corsola, Delibird, Mantine,
Houndoom, Donphan, Hitmontop, Miltank, Tyranitar, Entei, Suicune, Raikou,
Lugia

Counter
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Yes - Minun, Plusle, Ampharos, Charizard, Raichu, Snorlax, Mewtwo, Chansey,
Blastoise, Sandslash, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Clefable, Parasect, Golduck,
Poliwhirl, Alakazam, Machamp, Golem, Slowbro, Gengar, Hypno, Marowak,
Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Lickitung, Kangaskahn, Rhydon, Mr. Mime, Scyther,
Jynx, Electabuzz, Magmar, Mew, Feraligatr, meganium, Typhlosion, Togetic,
Sudowoodo, Politoed, Aipom, Quagsire, FOrretress, Dunsparce, Gligar,
Granbull, Heracross, Usaring, Sneasel, Delibird, Skarmory, Houndoom,
Hitmontop, Donphan, Miltank, Tyranitar, Sceptile, Blaziken, Swampert,
Mightyena, SWellow, Ludicolo, Breloom, Slaking, Exploud, Hariyama, Sableye,
Mawile, Aggron, Medicham, Illumise, Volbeat, Swalot, Grumpig, Spinda,
Cacturne, Zangoose, Crawdaunt, Dusclops, Kecleon, Absol, Regirock, Regice,
Groudon, Registeel, Deoxys

Thunder Wave
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Yes - Blissey, Raichu, Raticate, Clefable, Alakazam, Slwobro, Slowking,
Magneton, Hypno, Electrode, Starmie, Mr. Mime, Electabuzz, Gyarados,
Jolteon, Dragonite, Zapdos, Mew, Lanturn, Ampharos, Togetic, Xatu, Aipom,
Murkrow, MIsdreavous, Girafarig, Dunsparce, Granbull, Qwilfish, Octillery,
Porygon2, Stanler, Miltank, Raikou, Tyranitar, Lugia, Ho-oh, Linoone,
Gardevoir, Nosepass, Delcatty, Plusle, Minun, Aggron, Volbeat, Manectric,
Volbeat, Zangoose, Kecleon, Castform, Banette, Absol, Regirock, Registeel,
Rayquaza, Jirachi, Deoxys, Regice, Latios, Latias

Double Edge
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Yes - Snorlax, dugtrio, Raichu, CLoyster, Charizard, Blissey, Primeape,
Starmie, Farfetch'd, Pidgeot, Beedrill, Blastoise, Butterfree, Venusaur,
Fearow, Abrok, Sandslash, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Clefable, Vileplume,
Parasect, Venomoth, Persian, Golduck, Arcanine, Poliwrath, Alakazam,
Machamp, Victreebell, Golem, Rapidash, Slowbro, Magneton, Dodrio, Dewgong,
Gengar, Hypno, Kingler, Exeggutor, Marowak, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan,
Lickitung, Seaking, Kangaskah, Rhydon, Tangela, Mr. Mime, Scyther, Jynx,
Electabuzz, Magmar, Vaporeon, Lapras, Gyarados, Tauros, Pinsir, Flareon,
Jolteon, Omastar, Kabutops, Omanyte, Mewtwo, Mew, Articuno, Zapdos,
Dragonite, Moltres, Noctowl, Feraligatr, Furret, Typhlosion, Meganium,
Ledian, ariados, Crobat, Togetic, Xatu, Bellosom, Azumarril, sudowoodo,
Politoed, Jumpluff, Aipom, Sunflora, Yanma, Quagsire, Espeon, Umbreon,
Murkrow, MIsdreavous, GIrafarig, FOrretress, Dunsparce, Gligar, Steelix,
Granbull, Qwilfish, Shuckle, Heracross, Sneasel, Ursaring, Magcargo,
Piloswine, Corsola, Delibird, Mantine, Skarmory, Houndoom, Kingdra, DOnphan,
porygon2, Stanler, Hitmontop, Miltank, Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Tyranitar,
Lugia, Ho-oh, Celebi, Sceptile, Blaziken, Swampert, Linoone, Swellow,
Shiftry, Ludicolo, Dustox, BEautifly, Gardevoir, Masquerain, Slowking,
Breloom, Slaking, Ninjask, SHedinja, Exploud, Hariyama, Sableye, Delcatty,
Mawile, Aggron, Medicham, manectric, volbeat, illumise, roselia, Swalot,
Sharpedo, Wailord, Camerupt, Grumpig, Torkoal, Flygon, Spinda, Altaria,
Cacturne, Zangoose, Seviper, Solrock, Lunatone, Whiscash, Crawdaunt,
Claydol, Armaldo, Cradily, Milotic, kecleon, castform, banette, dusclops,
tropius, chimecho, absol, glalie, walrein, huntail, gorebyss, luvdisc,
relicanth, salamence, metagross, regirock, regice, groudon, kyogre, latios,
latias, registeel, rayquaza, jirachi, deoxys, PLusle, Minun, Ampharos


Rock Slide
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Yes - Charizard, Arbok, Sandslash, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Dugtrio, Primeape,
Golem, Machamp, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Marowak, Lickitung, Rhydon,
Kangaskahn, Pinsir, Omastar, Kabutops, Aerodactyl, Snorlax, Typhlosion,
Feraligatr, Sudowoodo, FOrretress, Dunsparce, gligar, Steelix, Granbull,
SHuckle, Heracross, Usaring, Magcargo, Piloswine, Corsola, Skarmory,
Donphan, HItmontop, Miltank, Tyranitar, Blaziken, Swampert, Slaking,
Exploud, Hariyama, Aggron, Nosepass, Medicham, Camerupt, Spinda, Flygon,
Zangoose, Lunatone, Solrock, Whiscash, Claydol, Armaldo, Cradily, Kecleon,
Dusclops, Absol, Walrein, Metagross, Salamence, Regirock, Registeel, Regice,
Relicanth, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Deoxys


Seismic Toss
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Yes - Charizard, Blissey, Raichu, Snorlax, Plusle, Minun, Octillery,
Ampharos, Primeape, Mewtwo, Blastoise, Sandslash, Nidoking, Nidoqueen,
Clefable, Golduck, Alakazam, Poliwrath, Machamp, Golem, Slowbro, Slowking,
Gengar, Hypno, Marowak, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Lickitung, Kangaskahn,
Rhydon, Mr. Mime, Jynx, Electabuzz, Magmar, Kabutops, Omastar, Feraligatr,
Typhlosion, Togetic, Azumarril, Sudowoodo Aipom, Politoed, Quagsire,
Granbull, Heracross, Ursaring, Delibird, Hitmontop, Miltank, Tyranitar,
Sceptile, blaziken, Swampert, Ludicolo, Breloom, Slaking, Exploud, hariyama,
Sableye, MAwile, Medicham, Aggron, Volbeat, Illumise, Grumpig, Spinda,
Cacturne, Zangoose, Armaldo, Kecleon, Dusclops, Regice, Regirock, Groudon,
Registeel, Deoxys

These last two moves were done by Dracoplasm aka PikachuPikablu. I ripped them from the bots :P

Pokemon that can learn SWORDS DANCE in FRLG (via TUTOR or NATURALLY): IVYSAUR, VENUSAUR, CHARMANDER, CHARMELEON, CHARIZARD, BEEDRILL, SANDSHREW, SANDSLASH, ODDISH, GLOOM, VILEPLUME, PARAS, PARASECT, BELLSPROUT, WEEPINBELL, VICTREEBEL, TENTACOOL, TENTACRUEL, FARFETCH'D, KRABBY, KINGLER, CUBONE, MAROWAK, LICKITUNG, RHYHORN, RHYDON, TANGELA, GOLDEEN, SEAKING, SCYTHER, PINSIR, KABUTO, KABUTOPS, MEW, CHIKORITA, BAYLEEF, MEGANIUM, TOTODILE, CROCONAW, FERALIGATR, LEDYBA, LEDIAN, BELLOSSOM, HOPPIP, SKIPLOOM, JUMPLUFF, SUNKERN, SUNFLORA, GLIGAR, QWILFISH, SCIZOR, HERACROSS, SNEASEL, CELEBI, TREECKO, GROVYLE, SCEPTILE, TORCHIC, COMBUSKEN, BLAZIKEN, LOTAD, LOMBRE, LUDICOLO, SEEDOT, NUZLEAF, SHIFTRY, NINJASK, SHROOMISH, BRELOOM, CORPHISH, CRAWDAUNT, CACNEA, CACTURNE, MAWILE, ROSELIA, TROPIUS, ABSOL, ZANGOOSE, ANORITH, ARMALDO, GROUDON

Pokemon that can learn EXPLOSION in FRLG (via TUTOR or NATURALLY): GEODUDE, GRAVELER, GOLEM, GRIMER, MUK, SHELLDER, CLOYSTER, GASTLY, HAUNTER, GENGAR, ONIX, VOLTORB, ELECTRODE, EXEGGCUTE, EXEGGUTOR, KOFFING, WEEZING, MEW, SUDOWOODO, PINECO, FORRETRESS, STEELIX, CORSOLA, SEEDOT, NUZLEAF, SHIFTRY, BALTOY, CLAYDOL, NUMEL, CAMERUPT, SNORUNT, GLALIE, LUNATONE, SOLROCK, GULPIN, SWALOT, BELDUM, METANG, METAGROSS, REGIROCK, REGICE, REGISTEEL

[Don't Run With Scizors]

Explosion and Rock Slide Metagross? Sexy.

Is there a list for Substitute in the works, too, or can we assume that just about everybody who can learn a TM gets it (like it did in RBY).

[Rei_Zero]

SWEET!!!!
With the no. of new pokemon that can learn swords dance, many many will see new uses...Blaziken can go for fullout attack instead of just bulk up. Sceptile can now have effective e-quakes and other moves. Metagross just became extremely dangerous with explosion.....and regis can now go with a bang @_@;
These tutors have just put an all new twist to the metagame....

[The Muffin Man]

Thunder Waving Gardevoir, Absol, or Deoxys? Looks like RBY is starting to come back in force.

Body Slam Azumarril might be kind of scary, considering it has Huge Power. But other than that alot of these are just gonna make standards less of a fall-back and more of a strategy. Finally, Standards aren't "because they're the best" but finally "because they're the first"!! I may just get back into battling...

[Animelee]

I just took a shower, and now I peed my pants. Thanks a lot. :mad:

[Don't Run With Scizors]

.....and regis can now go with a bang @_@;

Actually, the Regis could Explode in RuSa as well. Bring one to the Move Relearner and you'll see...

[Pewter City Geodude]

Originally posted by Don't Run With Scizors
Explosion and Rock Slide Metagross? Sexy.

Is there a list for Substitute in the works, too, or can we assume that just about everybody who can learn a TM gets it (like it did in RBY).

Apparently, Substitute and Mimic are once again pretty much universal.

[Cyrus]

Can someone point out where the full list is?

[Misty]

Originally posted by Cyrus
Can someone point out where the full list is?

This is as full as the list gets ;x I'll post updates when they come.

[soggy_cardboard]

Rock on!
A Spinda with Body Slam + Counter !

woo!

A Sword-Dancin' LUDICOLO ?!
Thats weird o_O

GLALIE is a perfect starter now ^^

[Rei_Zero]

Hehheh....Oh ya...Regis had explosion already.....but still Metagross is danger@@

[AKA Pokemon Fan]

Some that I'm excited about:

Body Slam
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Exploud: Hyper Voice is good but with the Soundproof characteristic around it will be nice to have this available. Indeed, the flinchy Tauros moveset (Earthquake, Body Slam, Rest, Snore) can make a comeback now in another form as Exploud also learns Snore. Just need to attach a Speed-raising berry.

Banette: Much better now that it learns another useful physical move besides Return and Shadow Ball. Special Attacks just aren't this guy's forete )sp?)

Absol: Swords Dance, Aerial Ace, Body Slam, Shadow Ball... it's like a Flareon on steroids that can raise its Attack and defend against its weaknesses.

Kingler: Yes, Kingler will be more usable again, though it's still eclipsed by Crawdaunt in move diversity. I might use Mud Shot, Body Slam, Mimic (to copy a partner's Recover) and Amnesia combined with maybe an Attack or Speed raising berry.

Tauros: Tauros became all but unusable when it lost access to Body Slam, Snore, Horn Drill and Fissure. Now it at least has one of its old good move available again. Plus Intimidate and Swagger (a move it now learns) is a good combo I think.

Thunder Wave
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Gyarados: Now this could be interesting, though since it does learn Dragon Dance and has access to Body Slam one may question its usefulness.

Double Edge
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Aerodactyl: Although it is not listed here as being able to learn it, a list posted on the Serebii forums said all but a few Ghost types, non-TM learning Pokemon (Kakuna, Beldum etc.) and the Grimer and Koffing lines were able to learn it. If so it will be most useful on Aerodactyl, the only Rock Head Pokemon that didn't gain Double-Edge as a level-up move if I recall right.

Rock Slide
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Aerodactyl: Aerodactyl has always been fast, now it will be able to get a STABed flinch rate as well. Plus it explains how Lance was able to get it on his Aerodactyl back in GSC.

Heracross: What was that sound? It was the sound of standard Heracross movesets being altered. :D

Skarmory: *hears the sound again*

Flygon: *And again*

Seismic Toss
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Togetic: *imagines Togetic doing a Charizard-style Seismic Toss*

Aipom: I wonder if Aipom would do this with its tail instead of its arms? Either way, it may be the first time you can be assured of doing a lot of damage with an offensive attack from this guy.

Pokemon that can learn SWORDS DANCE in FRLG (via TUTOR or NATURALLY):

VENUSAUR: The dancing Venusaur has returned new and improved! Swords Dance, Earthquake, Sludge Bomb, Synthesis, it will be a force to be reconed with I bet.

SEAKING: This wasn't on the Serebii list so I wonder if it was a mistake. If real, we suddenly have Seaking that can be used quite effectively, together with its newacquired Megahorn technique.

MEGANIUM: Swords Dance, Ancientpower, Earthquake and Synthesis, it is the cousin of the dancing Venusaur!

LEDIAN: Can it be that all Pokemon are now usable? With good Speed and Special Defense, plus moves like Brick Break and Silver Wind available to it, this, famous as perhaps the least usable of all fully evovled Pokemon, can now be powerful. I know that Ledian has some fans out there who will be most pleased.

JUMPLUFF: Now they are just being too kind for words, though I don't recall if Jumpluff learns enough physical attacks to make good use of this.

GLIGAR: A Gligar with Swords Dance, Rock Slide, Earthquake and Aerial Ace will be a welcome thing.

QWILFISH: Don't know how it's possible but there you have it. Must be the spines around its body...

HERACROSS: How much tougher can that make this Bug-type juggernaut? Why not just give it an Explosion attack that doesn't distinguish type and automatically revives the user after use? Not that I'm complaining. Swords Dance, Brick Break, Megahorn, Rock Slide, it will be able to handle most anything except maybe Skarmory (who will still take normal damage to Brock Break and Rock Slide.

SNEASEL: *Sneasel fans cheer*

SCEPTILE: There goes that sound again... let's all here it for the super dragon gecko with Swords Dance, Aerial Ace, Earthquake, Leaf Blade and Shell Bell!

BLAZIKEN: Now twice as strong twice as fast!

Pokemon that can learn EXPLOSION in FRLG (via TUTOR or NATURALLY):

CAMERUPT: That could be messy... lava and bits of rock everywhere... ^_^

METAGROSS: *Opponent cheers as Metagross loses most of its HP then screams as it knocks out his Pokemon with Explosion*

One great thing about these move tutors is you won't have to do as much breeding as you used to if you want say Rock Slide or Swords Dance on a given Pokemon. Of course, you can only use them once but games can be restarted. :yes:

Some questions though, is it known yet if any Pokemon have gained new breeding or TM moves? I for one hope that Gyarados can now use Aerial Ace. I mean if Sceptile can it should be able to. :yes:

[Rei_Zero]

I have a better strategy for Venusaur with these new moves....
Sword's Dance, E-quake, Sludge Bomb, Frenzy Plant. +spec. att. nature. That way, use sword's dance until your fully charged, hit them with E-quake or Sludge Bomb, and then when life goes down for characteristic to kick in, use frezy plant....
Sceptiles have become dangerous and Feraligator now has effective use.

[Pewter City Geodude]

Elemental Hyper Beams = not cool. Giga Drain would be better with that strategy.

[Rei_Zero]

The whole point is to knock them out with power before you go down. I'm taking advantage of STAB, Venusaur's special attack and abilities. Most Psychics have weak defense, fire and ice is weak against ground, maxed attack stabbed poison takes out most flyings (except Skarm), ground types get screwed over by grass(only bad apart of elemental hyper beam, and who would want to put a ground against a grass anyways?).

[Pewter City Geodude]

Well in-game you can do whatever you want, but don't expect to be succesful with those moves in stuff like RSBot.

[*Murkrow]

Originally posted by AKA Pokemon Fan

SNEASEL: *Sneasel fans cheer*


*Cheers louder*

Hm, some of those moves are weird, or at least don't make much sense o_O
Sneasel can get Double Edge, but not Body Slam? BS could have been fun with SD.
Murkrow can get Thunderwave?
Though that last one could be fun to play with^_^
*Goes back to cheering about Sneasel and Swords Dance*

[Syberia]

Hell yes. A legal Counter + Heal Bell Blissey. Looks like my old stall teams are coming back for yet another go.

EDIT: Seismic Toss/Counter/Heal Bell/Softboiled is obtainable. Pheer.

[Don't Run With Scizors]

Sub + Focus Punch Gengar pwnz Blissey. ;P

[The Muffin Man]

Sub + Focus Punch anything owns. Gengar only gets the advantage because of his levitate and ghost-type.

[DarkestLight]

Legal T-Tar Counter? OWTF that just ate up 3 weaknesses...
Yeah wow that's gonna get overused fast. Too bad BBreak still pwns it.

Yay though, Aipom will get respect!! Time to bring my Monkey Madness back!! On like madre fsking popcorn!

Not too sure about Flygon with Rock Slide- but I assume that with its good Speed that Flinch % can be put to good use.

Rock Slide, Dragonbreath/Crunch, Screech, Woteva

Hrm that sounds appealing actually...

But ...Jumpluff. Um, ok.

Physical Attacks for Jumpluff=Facade, Tackle, Aerial Ace, Double Edge. Am I missing any?

Best I can even see is SD-AA-Synthesis-Powder/Encore. Man for all ofthat, they should give Jumpluff somethng else, I love my little floating puffy Pokemon

[AKA Pokemon Fan]

Originally posted by DarkestLight
Not too sure about Flygon with Rock Slide- but I assume that with its good Speed that Flinch % can be put to good use.
Isn't Earthquake a prerequisite?


Physical Attacks for Jumpluff=Facade, Tackle, Aerial Ace, Double Edge. Am I missing any?
Offhand I can recall Secret Power and I "think" it can still learn or be bred Headbutt.

[Pewter City Geodude]

Originally posted by DarkestLight
Not too sure about Flygon with Rock Slide- but I assume that with its good Speed that Flinch % can be put to good use.

Rock Slide, Dragonbreath/Crunch, Screech, Woteva

Hrm that sounds appealing actually...

Rock Slide's use on Flygon should be obvious.

Ice > Flygon
Rock > Ice

See the concept now? :D

[Syberia]

Rock Slide on Registeel > Rock Slide on Flygon.

[Green_Pikachu]

lovely kiss, rock slide, megahorn, earthquake nidoking what?

[Nace]

I wonder if a sub+focus punch primeape'd be any good...

[Pewter City Geodude]

Originally posted by Nace
I wonder if a sub+focus punch primeape'd be any good...

Sub/Focus Punch anything is good. Ever try it on Kecleon? :) It works great, at least in-game.

[DarkestLight]

Why would I use Flygon against say...an Ice Type in the first place? I get the concept, I'm just like ...That's not cool xD

And yeah Earthquake on Flygon is good. I'm just the type that usually dosent think about it until after he posts it xD.

[Don't Run With Scizors]

An Earthquake from Flygon is just as powerful against an Ice-type as a Rock Slide from Flygon. Rock Slide is just more useful against Pokémon like Salamence.

[The Muffin Man]

Why not just use both? Like Rhydon had both.

[Kyl3]

Nice work, Catbert. :yes:

[AKA Pokemon Fan]

The way I see it Rock Slide on Flygon would be good for Flinching, which is about the only way you could survive against an Ice type if you were forced to fight one and couldn't take it out with one shot. It'd also be good if Articuno were a threat to you.

Also its just a good physical attack for Flygon, something that is in short supply for Flygons (Earthquake, Return, Body Slam and perhaps Steel Wing are the only other good ones it gets). And since its generally good not to split EVs (i.e have Special and Attack-based attacks on the same Pokemon) and Flygon's stats are best on Attack, it should probably have Attack-based moves.