Officialtournaments & Cheatdevices???

[ruro_uni]

Hi there.
I wonder, a friend of mine told me that poké GSC can keep track
if you used an cheatdevice(eg. gameshark)...
I wanted to know if anyone ever heard or saw that reappening...
like... he told me that on the tournement they do check
if the game is a fake or not, right?... but also he told me that they
also can know if you used an gameshark...
like he said "somehow on the cartrige, there´s a trigger that
activates when it detects if you´re using a gameshark"...
still for me it´s quite impossible.... but who knows what they´ve
done....

the mark whold be like when a pokemon had pokerus...
but hidden....

anyway... any ideas or proffs are welcome...

THANKS, ruro_uni

[Strider]

I have heard of officials doing these checks on cartridges for sharking, although I'm not too clear on how they did so.

But I would imagine that anyone who knows the game fairly well would recognize any sharked or illegal movesets and the like.

[phaedrus]

Originally posted by Strider
I have heard of officials doing these checks on cartridges for sharking, although I'm not too clear on how they did so.

But I would imagine that anyone who knows the game fairly well would recognize any sharked or illegal movesets and the like.

but what if they did legal sharking....

e.g. Heal Bell on Chansey/Blissey...

And stuff like getting Celebi? I don't think they can keep track of that.....

[ruro_uni]

indeed using illegal status is wrong and MUST be checked
before entering, maybe, even, every fight....
wrong status is wrong so really it canot be accepted
... but what about gettin all TMs or 99 masterballs
or rarecandies.... i guess it´s not wrong at all....
afterall... they already made the rarecandies to
grown poké but weaker than trained ones.... right???

and my friend told that the mark made on the game...
is sort of.... sensitive.... he told me at first that it keeps
a track that if you used a gameshark... on overalll...
Later he told me, too, that it marks every modified poké....
at this point I say..... it´s turnig to be too much...
you change the moveset then it tells... you changed this poké???
c´mon uh??? like Strider said "illegal movesets and the like"
really... this stuff MUST be detected.... after all...
at least.... if we can get someone that made such"legal"modify
and gone to such tournaments... it would be easier to tell, eh??

anyway... I´ll keep an eye about this....
and hope it´s not true....

heard too that this heappens on saph/ruby....
but not sure too....

[Strider]

Originally posted by Mr. Buu
but what if they did legal sharking....

e.g. Heal Bell on Chansey/Blissey...

And stuff like getting Celebi? I don't think they can keep track of that.....

Chansey/Blissey get Heal Bell through breeding. How is it sharking?

And on getting Celebi, the only ways of acquiring it that I'm aware of are through official tours, and the Japanese version of Crystal; other than that, then the only way is using the game shark, which isn't 'legal.'

ruro_uni: I'm guessing that the tournaments would only care if you modified your pokemon to have moves that it could not learn otherwise, such as Explosion on Snorlax, or any other changes that could not be achieved in the game. Using items, such as Rare Candies, vitamins, etc. to modify your pokemon's stats shouldn't be a problem; after all, it is in-game, ergo, 'legal.'

Lastly, getting extra items like Master Balls, Rare Candies, etc., through the use of a game shark should not be a problem either: they don't have much of a bearing in tournament battles, since they cannot be used there, respectively. Besides, you can get extras of any item without a game shark, by utilizng the dupe trick in Gold and Silver (ask Number1ChanseyFan about that if you're interested).

[ruro_uni]

""ruro_uni: I'm guessing that the tournaments would only care if you modified your pokemon to have moves that it could not learn otherwise, such as Explosion on Snorlax, or any other changes that could not be achieved in the game. Using items, such as Rare Candies, vitamins, etc. to modify your pokemon's stats shouldn't be a problem; after all, it is in-game, ergo, 'legal.'""

so do I belive they do....

but I´m still on to what my friend said...
"when you use the gameshark, the game it self marks
telling that you used, and when you, too, make an mod on the pokemon"

like wise, changing status to impossible is illegal....

still... I just wanted to know if the game do make a mark or not....
I belive in the point that this passing to too much....
just checking for illegal actions is more than enough in
battle... that´s what I belive....
don´t know them....

[Poryhedron]

Originally posted by Strider

Chansey/Blissey get Heal Bell through breeding. How is it sharking?

It's Sharking when someone decides that it's much easier to use Game Shark than to go through the whole long and boring breeding process. The question being, is using Game Shark still illegal if all you did was take a shortcut to easily get something you could have done without the Game Shark?

[SupremeChampion]

Originally posted by Poryhedron
The question being, is using Game Shark still illegal if all you did was take a shortcut to easily get something you could have done without the Game Shark?

i think you answered your own question right there. of course it is. if you run a marathon, is it cheating if you took a shortcut even though you could have run the marathon just as easily? yes, it is. cheating is cheating, big or small. how fair would it be for someone who put hours apon days apon weeks of training just to get their pokémon at a competetive level to battle someone who did all that work in 2 minutes? if they raised their level that fast, more than likely they did the same thing to their stats. the main object of the game is to catch pokémon, raise them how they should be raised, and battle them. if you can't do something as simple as that, then why play the game at all? i know getting a poké to the 100 level mark is tough, but it was just as tough for the thousands of others who did it before you. cheating is cheating, no matter how you look at it.

~The Italian Stallion

if you can't tell, i really don't like gameshark, or rare candies for that matter either.

[ruro_uni]

SupremeChampion: there´s a point on what you say...
before on poke red, I trained a charizard to 100
just by passing through the four elite...
and I really cannot remember how many times I´d gone there
really a hell....

either way, is told that by training pokemon with rarecandies
makethen weaker.... for me I get to use them to envove other
poké in order to complete the pokedex....
and I though about the idea of gettin rare pokemon....
such as celebi....
it´s like... if you saw.... then you more than certainly used the
gameshark, but too then, you could have some friend that
gone to those tours.... well... hard to belive....
but they must too...

at least... gameshark should be used on good purpose...
not???.... really... I still think.... I don´t care if you used an game shark... but be sure to NOT modify your status....
so again, that´s where the league MUST be severe....
Impossible actions, Illegal activities.... that can really make the
diference on a battle.... SO THERE IS, a reason to check.....

[SupremeChampion]

ok, i got a little off topic. but yea, they prolly can do a check to make sure you didn't cheat. that's because they want to even playing field.

~The Italian Stallion

[ruro_uni]

still....
the main subject isn´t answered yet....

Is it true that if you use an gamashark, the on onw cartrige
makes a mark telling if you used or not...
more, if you too have made mods on somes pokemons, makes,
too, a mark telling if you MOD that POKé or not????
so to the point: 1. does the cartrige make someway out to tell
the use or not?
2. mod pokés have, too, this same sistem??? note: both them are
to each, not together, so it tell first, if you used gameshark, then,
again, if used a gameshark on that pokemon (MODS on EACH, on
which I do belive that is too much, since if they can know if you
used they can be a bit more careful about his actions during
gameplay, not?)

another question that beat me now:
(or at least your history when you´ve gone to a tournament)

on official tournements, is it true that there is a machine to check
your pokemons???
like, one main purpose could be to check, faster, you ID Num.
cartrige certification, againsh fake ones, then to make an fast
check on each pokemon, and to list them, in to pokemons in use,
and the main purpose here.... to check gamesharking???

so... tell me what had gone there...
have ever gone to an official league???
does they use or have or had such machine???
if they do... what´s it main purpose???
(at least your opinion, about this last one)

[Sir Chris]

There is no such machine, and if you shark legal moves etc there is no way for them to tell.

also, just a thought, not meaning to be rude, but could you please try to use better spelling and grammar? Perhaps running your message through a spellchecker of some sort, etc. thanks.

[SupremeChampion]

so i guess you could use shark ( :mad2: ) and get away with it( :mad2::mad2: ). though, i assume that most of tournaments serious players would be able to find any illegal sets.

~The Italian Stallion

[Pig on the Wing]

well, for starts, does anyone actually think there will ever be another GSC tourny, or anything like that for RBY, GSC or RS ever again?

Anyway, there is no way that they can check if you sharked or not, but IMO sharkers are lazy idiots, so...

Yeah, anyway. Even if there was ever another tournament unless the officials know everything about the game (which they never do) there's no way to check if they've cheated.

And yes, it is still illegal to shark a somehing legal onto a Pokemon, not only that, but it's just lazy.

BOYCOTT SHARKING!!! Um yes...

[bb88]

For the record, using Gameshark is a nutless move anyway. If you want to hang with the big boys, then don't baby out and use a device. You'll get more satisfaction out of doing it the way it was meant to be done anyway.

If all the world's Gamesharks and their users were destroyed today, I'd feel 0% remorse.