Is it just me...

[Andrew]

Or does the Wii really suck?

How many really good games that are original and fun are out there for the Wii that DO NOT include Mario? Really?

I've rented out Super Paper Mario after finding the last two tollerable enough to finish.

But, now after 2 hours I'm fucking sick of it. It's very lacking in originality and fun.

To be honest, apart from Brawl, I don't really like my Wii and regret purchasing it. Is there seriously nothing worth it on there?

The DS to me seems a much stronger console and I really loved TWEWY. The Wii is floundering on lightweight party games and gimmicks.

[Drago]

To be honest, apart from Brawl, I don't really like my Wii and regret purchasing it.

I thought our Brawl scuffles were worth it, you heartless monster.

Anyhow, the games that I've enjoyed most have been your aforementioned Mario variety; Brawl (where I use the Gamecube controller), Kart (where I never use the wheel) and Galaxy (where other than a bit of shaking and pointing the Wiimote use is minimal). So yeah, there hasn't been a whole lot of original stuff to work with. I'm enjoying the games, but I'm not really doing a great deal of new stuff with them.

Star Fox could be a chance to use the Wiimote cleverly (if they'd just let someone make it who didn't suck!!), and possibly Pikmin as well... The 'Wii ____' series of games have been pretty good, though.

[PNT510]

The Wii has a couple of really solid games like Boom Blox, Zelda, Wario Ware, and the Mario games. It's no different from the N64 or gamecube though. The only games worth owning on those were made by Nintendo which come out few and far between.

[Heald]

I'm starting to become disillusioned with it as well. I bought an XBox 360 the other week and it's just BETTER in every way. Better games, better graphics, better controls, better Internet...the works. I haven't bought a Wii game since SSBB and Pro Evo 2008 Wii, both of which are excellent, but hardly justify the console. XBox, meanwhile, has a vast library of quality games that keep coming out.

[Andrew]

I can't name 3 upcoming Wii games I'm vaguely interested in which is really sad.

I'm not sure if it's because I'm getting older and more cynical, or because Nintendo are sucking, HARD.

Wii Music? UGH.

ANIMAL CROSSING. UGH.

But, I will say Brawl is one of my favourites. Don't worry Tony, Brawl is brilliant and worth the Wii.

I rented Wario Ware from my uni and it wasn't particularly fun. 2 Hours in I got sick of it and it's repetitive minigames.

[Blademaster]

(enters thread)

...****. I clicked on some misinformed individual's GameFAQs thread when I was on my way to TPM again. My bad.

(leaves thread)

[classy_cat18]

*sighs* Even I admit that the Wii isn't that hot. Although Brawl still kicks ass and I enjoy Galaxy. I haven't been able to buy new Wii games so I'm completely burned out.

But I ususally use mine for Gamecube games (even my version of TP is Gamecube) and Virtual Console.

*sighs again*

I want an XBox 360 and Geometry Wars. Or a PS3 and LittleBigPlanet.

[Austrian ViceMaster Alex]

Right now the Wii indeed has a low. I can't name a single game that interests me. But the same is true for the PS3 and 360 with the exception for Resident Evil 5.

All in all the Wii has released the greatest library of worthy games (of the 7th generation) in my opinion, the majority of them coming from Nintendo's own production though.

I still only got a single game on the PS3 even after half a year and the 360 having all its worthwhile games released on PC anyway is a complete waste of time.

[Andrew]

Blademaster, if you can't contribute, then you could at least be polite enough to delete your post.

[firepokemon]

The WII may be awful but at least its not the PS3 which is being outsold by its earlier and likely far better console the PS2. Well in Japan at least.

[Drago]

I rented Wario Ware from my uni and it wasn't particularly fun. 2 Hours in I got sick of it and it's repetitive minigames.

Wario Ware is definitely a game for a certain crowd. I played it with some uni friends, most of whom weren't really avid gamers, and we had a blast - played it again with my more gaming friends, and it wasn't that great. But it can have its appeal in the right circumstances...

I'm of the contention that Animal Crossing won't offer enough new things to justify my purchase, and I don't have any particular interest in Wii Music... but I didn't really have any interest in Wii Fit, and that's been a fair bit of fun (who'd have picked it for a good multiplayer game??)
Above all else, I guess I'm still just a Nintendo fanboy, so I'll still be pretty willing to scoop up anything they churn out (except Super Paper Mario; that's still a regrettable game). Frankly, I think Luigi's Mansion could get another go; just boost up its length and difficulty and it could translate quite well to the Wii remote. The first one was far too short, but it was certainly great fun.

[Blademaster]

Blademaster, if you can't contribute, then you could at least be polite enough to delete your post.

I can contribute. I just doubt you'll give a crap about what I have to say, considering that almost everyone who complains about the Wii shares the same hive mentality that as soon as they become bored with it, nothing good will come out of it again.

EVER.

[PNT510]

Just because you don't agree with peoples legit complaints doesn't mean they're suffering from hive mentality.

[Andrew]

At least engage us in lively debate Blademaster.

[ssj4supernerd]

Nintendo is being silly. Sure, Wii Sports and Brain Academy this and that appeals to the casual gamer, but not the hardcore ones. But Nintendo gets money, SO WHO CARES!


Ps3 is ofcourse still failing, I mean MGS4 is going to the 360, meaning that PS3 has NO good exclusives whatsoever. PS3 will pick itself up tho I think, if you just look at what PS2 has accomplished.

Say whatever you want, 360 is the best console out there atm. Great library, really good exclusives and the fact that its games are on the PC, yeah well, not everyone has the right PC to play such games.

All in all, everything might change. Gamecube was a great console, but I think Nintendo stopped being gods after the SNES/N64 era, personally.

[Blademaster]

Whatever you say, Ozzy. Ahem...

Or does the Wii really suck?

Nope.

How many really good games that are original and fun are out there for the Wii that DO NOT include Mario? Really?

Out now:

-No More Heroes
-LOZ: Twilight Princess
-Geometry Wars
-Megaman 9
-Wario Land: Shake It!
-Boom Blox
-Blast Works
-Okami
-de Blob
-Resident Evil 4
-Strong Bad
-Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
-Lost Wind
-The 'Wii' series

Out soon:

-Sonic Unleashed
-Madworld
-The Conduit
-Bomberman Blast

Also, No More Heroes is getting a sequel next year.

I've rented out Super Paper Mario after finding the last two tollerable enough to finish.

But, now after 2 hours I'm fucking sick of it. It's very lacking in originality and fun.

Agreed.

[Heald]

A year ago, I was waxing lyrical about the Wii. Now, what have I got to look forward to? I just took a cursory look at Metacritic. The top 2 games are Wiiware, the rest with a decent score are mostly pan-platform games that are mostly the same as other consoles and some are probably better to play on Xbox 360. Yes, there are a couple of games that are worth playing, such as Boom Blox and Wario Land, but not much else. Not enough to justify the price of admission.

Then we look at the online. Wii's online is useless. No voice-chat, no names when playing against other people, most games have their own friend codes despite this meant to be avoided by your Wii's own friend code, and the lag is terrible in most games I've played (although I'm yet to take MK: Wii online yet, which I heard is actually okay). XBox 360 spanks Wii up and down with its online, although there is a slight drawback of having to pay for it.

Where is Wii actually making its money? It's not from appeasing the hardcore masses with excellent games such as SSBB, LoZ: TP and SMG, it's from making stuff like Wii Fit and other pseudo-games. Most of the games released are gimmicky, and frankly cack. Meanwhile, look at the 360, which has great graphics, great gameplay and great online play. The PC is still the best platform by far.

Seriously, until a good Starfox, or F-Zero, or whatever game comes out, I doubt I'll actually buy another game for it unless something really good and original shows itself.

[classy_cat18]

I enjoyed Super Paper Mario. But that's me.

And although Nintendo's not exactly living in its previous glory days, it's still profiting from that era. Old titles are still beating out most present titles on current systems.

Plus, although the Wii is a little dry on good games, the DS is still batting a thousand.

[Dark-San]

Well, I do not have a Wii, nor do I have a PS3. I have neither a PSP or even a Xbox360. The only form of game entertainment I have is this measly Nintendo DS Lite.

*Toss it one side*

I am not very sure of the business performance of the rest of the consoles outside of Singapore. But one thing is for sure, PS3 is the undisputed king of consoles in the local market at least. Good graphics display and advanced technological edge puts it in the driving seat. Furthermore with more games coming up more often than the rest of the other two consoles, Wii and Xbox360, PS3 is set to retain that number one spot for another year ahead as far as what I can observed.

Xbox360 is a good console. But I have not heard any demand for it here. The people purchasing it were mainly addicted to Halo if I am not wrong.

Surprisingly while many people here are playing down on the business prospect for Wii, it is slowly but steady gaining market share. It is slowly craving itself a niche market to cater to. The driver behind its success over at Singapore is due to its simplicity. The trend originates from Apple Ipod's simplicity concept and influenced the customers. Hence, it is by means no surprise that the same people who purchase Wii are also the same bunch of customers that are Apple product fans.

Well, the DS is good. But after finishing World Destruction and halfway into Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, I find no other reasons for me to continue playing with it.

[classy_cat18]

Well, the DS is good. But after finishing World Destruction and halfway into Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, I find no other reasons for me to continue playing with it.

With so many games being made for the DS, you'll find one soon.

[Weasel Overlord]

Well, I was seriously considering a Wii for when Okami came out, but when I found out that it's basically IDENTICAL to the PS2 Okami, I decided not to bother. Methinks I'll stick with my DS (and the R4 I'm getting for crimbo ).

As for the PS3, things will pick up once the Final Fantasy Fabula Nova Crystallis comes out. FFXIII and Versus XIII FTW!! Well, they'll get money off me, anyway, since I'm gonna be saving up to actually BUY one.

[Austrian ViceMaster Alex]

I enjoyed Super Paper Mario.

So did I, how anyone cannot enjoy this game is beyond my grasp. This game as well as the entire Paper Mario series is the quintessence of fun.

Wii's online is useless.

Quite right. Nintendo should trash the friend code concept as quickly as possible or make it just an optional addition.

[Drago]

So did I, how anyone cannot enjoy this game is beyond my grasp. This game as well as the entire Paper Mario series is the quintessence of fun.

The level design is poor, and the challenge is repetitive. The 3D aspect is more of a limitation than anything else, making the levels simplistic as opposed to clever. But that's just how I feel, to each their own, huh?

[PNT510]

Also the lack of analog control in the 3D parts is somewhat annoying.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

Nintendo Wii sucks? I bought mine yesterday. What a terrible day. No, actually, it was perfect. A perfect day.

Friday the 31st of October was the first day it snowed this winter in Ylivieska, Finland, where I live. I just love snowstorms like this, and all the other people hate them. However, I got a ride to a local shopping center called Kärkkäinen from two more than just friends of mine, I shall call them S and A here. It was A's car and she was driving. So, we drove to Kärkkäinen and I found Wii but didn't find Super Mario Galaxy, the main reason I wanted Wii. I bought Wii anyway, and they said next week should come more Super Mario Galaxy, so I must wait for that. A drove me to my apartment. A parked the car and I went out to my favorite snowstorm with my new Nintendo Wii. When I was walking to the door of the building where I live, I saw two young boys riding bikes. One yelled at me.

"Ei toisen parkkipaikalle saa pysähtyä, senkin vätys! Mä kerron..."
"You may not park in another's parking place, you slacker! I'll tell..."

I didn't figure out who the boy was going to tell. I turned around so that they saw me do it, run back with Wii to the car, opened the door, and talked to A and S.

"Nuo pojat huusivat ettei tähän saa pysäköidä ja haukkuivat minua vätykseksi!"
"Those boys yelled you may not park here and called me slacker!"

They told I should ignore, but later I think I should have yelled back to the boys.

"I'll tell about this at TPM! They'll give you no Pokemon!"

It was the best day in my life.

[Andrew]

"Nuo pojat huusivat ettei tähän saa pysäköidä ja haukkuivat minua vätykseksi!"
"Those boys yelled you may not park here and called me slacker!"

They told I should ignore, but later I think I should have yelled back to the boys.

"I'll tell about this at TPM! They'll give you no Pokemon!"

It was the best day in my life.

You worry me.

My potential Wii purchases:

- THis new day of disaster thing looks cool.
- Fire Emblem.... (I don't know if I can sacrifice my life to ANOTHER fire emblem game but)

I am wanting a new Eternal Darkness for the Wii or perhaps another Buffy title. lol.In the vein of the first XBox one, that is.

[PNT510]

It's strange Day of Disaster looks promising. Has planned releases for AU, EU, and Japan. No US release announced though.

[Houndoom_Lover]

I have to say no to the whole Super Paper Mario sucking- I played that game so much I'm pretty sure I wore it out. Maybe me cry each time. What a beautiful game.

While it is true that Nintendo didn't invest in a powerhouse, I am truly looking forward to Madworld *chews on the crunch cartoon violence*

The Wii is just different. With its flaws just like any other system. They left room for improvement. I like to see the PS3 top itself- no, wait, they could include ACTUAL back-capibilbies, which the Wii has down beautifully.

Crash Bandicoot: Crash of the Titans is really a perfect great experiance on the Wii, even though it came out for others.

And of course, there is that new Sonic game.

I wish the Wii would play DVDs...or at least CDS. I hate having so many things connected at once.