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    Default 200 Team Rate

    The Nameless Minions


    Item: Choice Band
    Trait: Swarm
    Personality: Adamant
    EVs: 4/252/0/252/0/0
    -HP Rock
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake
    -Focus Punch



    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Rain Dish
    Personality: Calm
    EVs: 252/0/0/8/30/220
    -Surf
    -Rest
    -Toxic
    -Leech Seed



    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    Personality: Sassy
    EVs: 252/0/252/0/0/4
    -Rest
    -Toxic
    -Earthquake
    -Thunderbolt



    Item: Lum Berry
    Trait: Synchronize
    Personality: Timid
    EVs: 4/0/0/252/252/0
    -Psychic
    -Calm Mind
    -Fire Punch
    -Thunder Punch



    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    Personality: Adamant
    EVs: 124/252/0/0/128/0
    -Surf
    -Curse
    -Earthquake
    -Frustration



    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    Personality: Careful
    EVs: 252/0/128/0/0/128
    -Rest
    -Protect
    -Night Shade
    -Will-O-Wisp

    I might replace Ludicolo with Milotic and Dusclops with Weezing. Feel free to suggest new pokes,sets, items, EVs, etc...

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    Default Re: 200 Team Rate

    Originally posted by Consolidated
    The Nameless Minions



    Item: Choice Band
    Trait: Swarm
    Personality: Adamant
    EVs: 4/252/0/252/0/0
    -HP Rock
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake
    -Focus Punch

    I don't pretend to be an expert with Heracross, Sir Chris would be better for this, but anyhoo: I would have Brick Break over Focus Punch, becase you don't seem to have a way to debilitate your enemy appropiately on your entire team. Unless that's as a Slaking killler...

    EVs are good for Choice Banded Hera.



    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Rain Dish
    Personality: Calm
    EVs: 252/0/0/8/30/220
    -Surf
    -Rest
    -Toxic
    -Leech Seed

    The general concensus with Ludi here is Swift Swim>Rain Dish. If you want Ludi as primarily a water type, try this set:

    Rain Dance
    Surf
    Leech Seed
    Rest



    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    Personality: Sassy
    EVs: 252/0/252/0/0/4
    -Rest
    -Toxic
    -Earthquake
    -Thunderbolt

    There were some good Registeel sets floating around her a few months ago, unfortunately i can't remember any.

    I think Safeguard over Rest would be a good investment here, but use your own judgement. (Remember Registeel cannot be poisoned.)



    Item: Lum Berry
    Trait: Synchronize
    Personality: Timid
    EVs: 4/0/0/252/252/0
    -Psychic
    -Calm Mind
    -Fire Punch
    -Thunder Punch

    Try Knock Off over Thunderpunch, taking all those leftovers off your opponents team will be a real bonus, plus it give you a chance to royally skrew up other Choice Banded Heracross before you die.


    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    Personality: Adamant
    EVs: 124/252/0/0/128/0
    -Surf
    -Curse
    -Earthquake
    -Frustration

    Myself I like this Swmpert:

    @Lefties
    Personality: Quiet (+ SpAtt -Speed)

    Curse
    Roar
    Earthquake
    Ice Beam

    Curse Roaring is great, and thus you'll also want a - Speed nature. I gave it Quiet for Ice Beam. Also with Ice Beam you have a chance of catching some Grass types on the switch in, plus nothing can resist the Ice/Ground attack combo.


    ...Actually I think this is Ralts_Mudkip's Swampert no wonder it sounded familiar.


    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    Personality: Careful
    EVs: 252/0/128/0/0/128
    -Rest
    -Protect
    -Night Shade
    -Will-O-Wisp

    [B]Good EVs, but try this set:

    Mean Look
    Toxic
    Curse/Night Shade
    Rest

    The idea behind the Curse set is: Trap the enemy, poison 'em, curse 'em, and then get some rest and sit around while it kills itself. The problem here is that Dusclops will get owned by pokes with Tuant, that's why it's worth considering Night Shade over Curse. The choice is up to you.
    All in all a nice team, I don't see any blaring 3x weaknesses, and the pokes look pretty good. Now I am very tired, and I must go.
    Elrond rambled.

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    Default 200 Team Rate

    The general concensus with Ludi here is Swift Swim>Rain Dish. If you want Ludi as primarily a water type, try this set:

    Rain Dance
    Surf
    Leech Seed
    Rest


    Um..what good would that do? I don't understand whats so great about a fast ludicolo. Ludicolo's special attack isn't anything special(on average it will only be like 225 spcl. atk) and thats nothing. What's a fast ludicolo going to do, toxic them fast? Okay, swift swim can be better then rain dish. But rain dance should never be on ludicolo's moveset.

    I think Safeguard over Rest would be a good investment here, but use your own judgement. (Remember Registeel cannot be poisoned.)

    Registeel is incredibly slow..he wouldn't be able to set up a safeguard before getting slept/burnt. He needs rest in order to toxic stall..

    Try Knock Off over Thunderpunch, taking all those leftovers off your opponents team will be a real bonus, plus it give you a chance to royally skrew up other Choice Banded Heracross before you die.

    What good would knock off do on a sweeper alakazam? Alakazam's focus here is to calm mind up, and hit everything 2x effective or kill it immediately. Not to knock off somewhat irrelevant items..

    Curse Roaring is great, and thus you'll also want a - Speed nature.

    Curse roaring is horrible. In R/S, the faster pokemon always uses roar. So that means if gyarados dragon dances against swampert and is faster, it's roaring always goes first. Therefore, swampert would lose.

    Finally, curse is one of dusclops worsts move. If dusclops had access to 340 speed, then it would be okay. The situation would be: dusclops gets hit first(its slower) and then uses curse. This brings dusclops down to atleast 25% health, if not lower. Next turn, dusclops dies. :[

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    Default 200 Team Rate

    Meh, so sue me, I am but lowly pond scum whose pathetic attemp to be original must surely rouse your godly ire. You are a much more experienced player than I, and far more worthy to give such advice.

    But I must admit you way of putting things can be rather harsh and hurtful, even to wretched n00b dung beetles such as myself. And that is not always the best policy, even if you are a mod.

    Forgive this gut parasite's incoherent ramblings, it has a heart, but aparantly no brain.
    Elrond rambled.

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    Default 200 Team Rate

    Well, I tried to abandon my previous "lol your a nub" ways, I used to act like that all the time 5 months ago. I didn't call you any names, and I'm sorry if I sound harsh. But I do find enjoyment out of proving people wrong, and I still can't find a way to say that something is horrible without making myself sound harsh, I understand completely.

    That said, I'll actually provide a rate:

    Heracross: okay, but I personally like brick break over earthquake, since they mostly cover the same things.

    Ludicolo: poifect, if you want to use rain dish or swift swim, its up to you.

    Registeel: ok

    alakazam: encore > thunderpunch imo, but this set is ok

    swampert: great

    dusclops: i personally think nightshade is sorta lame, especially with how slow dusclops is. I say go with mclops, or go calmmind, icebeam, willowisp/toxic, rest.

    I won't bother to rate evs, because I'm too lazy and you probably won't listen to me anyways.

    Overall looks pretty solid team, keep up the good work.

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    Default Re: 200 Team Rate


    Item: Choice Band
    Trait: Swarm
    Personality: Adamant
    EVs: 4/252/0/252/0/0
    -HP Rock
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake
    -Focus Punch

    Fine. I've never really used one.



    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Rain Dish
    Personality: Calm
    EVs: 252/0/0/8/30/220
    -Dive
    -Rain Dance
    -Toxic/Giga Drain
    -Leech Seed



    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    Personality: Sassy
    EVs: 252/0/252/0/0/4
    -Rest
    -Toxic
    -Earthquake
    -Thunderbolt

    This is fine. You can also try amnesia and iron defence over earthquake and thunderbolt to make him an annoyer.


    Item: Lum Berry
    Trait: Synchronize
    Personality: Timid
    EVs: 4/0/0/252/252/0
    -Psychic
    -Calm Mind
    -Fire Punch
    -Thunder Punch

    Fine.



    Item: Chesto Berry
    Trait: Torrent
    Personality: Adamant
    EVs: 6/252/0/0/0/252
    -Curse
    -Return/Frustration
    -Earthquake
    -Rest/Ice Beam

    Only 3 pokemon resist both normal and ground, Skarmory, Gengar and Aerodactyl


    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    Personality: Careful
    EVs: 6/0/252/0/0/252
    - Rest
    - Mean Look
    - Toxic/Will-O-Wisp
    - Double Team

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    Default Re: Re: 200 Team Rate

    Originally posted by Warahyuu
    Only 3 pokemon resist both normal and ground, Skarmory, Gengar and Aerodactyl
    and misdreavus and solrock and lunatone...
    Righteous Chaps

    KissShipping > you.

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    Default Re: 200 Team Rate

    Originally posted by Consolidated
    The Nameless Minions


    Item: Choice Band
    Trait: Swarm
    Personality: Adamant
    EVs: 4/252/0/252/0/0
    -HP Rock
    -Megahorn
    -Earthquake
    -Focus Punch

    Go Guts. Couters W-O-Wers


    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Rain Dish
    Personality: Calm
    EVs: 252/0/0/8/30/220
    -Surf
    -Rest
    -Toxic
    -Leech Seed

    Umm... That could work, but I like:

    Ice Beam (Flying types)
    Toxic
    Leech Seed
    Rest/Protect


    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Clear Body
    Personality: Sassy
    EVs: 252/0/252/0/0/4
    -Rest
    -Toxic
    -Earthquake
    -Thunderbolt

    Curse
    Rest
    EQ
    Return/Frustration/Toxic



    Item: Lum Berry
    Trait: Synchronize
    Personality: Timid
    EVs: 4/0/0/252/252/0
    -Psychic
    -Calm Mind
    -Fire Punch
    -Thunder Punch

    Go Ice Punch over Thunder Punch


    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Torrent
    Personality: Adamant
    EVs: 124/252/0/0/128/0
    -Surf
    -Curse
    -Earthquake
    -Frustration

    Curse
    Ice Beam
    Earthquake
    Mirror Coat/Rest

    Curecoat is legal on the bots... :x


    Item: Leftovers
    Trait: Pressure
    Personality: Careful
    EVs: 252/0/128/0/0/128
    -Rest
    -Protect
    -Night Shade
    -Will-O-Wisp

    Keep.

    I might replace Ludicolo with Milotic and Dusclops with Weezing. Feel free to suggest new pokes,sets, items, EVs, etc...

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