Latias and the legendaries

[Evil Fuzzle]

oki, I incountered 2 shinies, yet no latias... is she suppose to be more rare then the shinies? o.O
anyways.. I think its weird

I'm also not able to capture any regi... they just dont wanna get into those balls the pokemon I use are my breloom and zangoose, cuz breloom isnt able to false swipe I use zangoose to do that, zangoose is level 75 and breloom 70.. I trew over 50 ultraballs and levelballs untill I ran out!! I want to use my masterball on latias.. so I wont use that.. is there a trick to catch the regies? I use spore to get them to sleep and swipe them to 1hp and then trow the balls..

thanx anyone who helps

[Silent Dragonfly]

Latias only appears only after the elite four and you've seen the TV event, its best to look around the routes around Mauville City.

About the shinies you're just lucky. I've been playing over 300 hours and not found one.

For the Regis I suggest Making sure they're weak with your false swipe and either paralyze or put them to sleep. Did you stop your shroomish evolving until it learns spore? It learns it at L56 I think. If not just get something with Thunder Wave or Hypnosis

[Don't Run With Scizors]

I'm pretty certain defense boosts of the wild Pokémon factor into the catch rate formula - you're probably having trouble catching them because their defense is really high from Cursing. Keep a Hazer (like Weezing) handy to sweep away their boosts, and if you have the opportunity, Encore their Superpower. Superpower is a powerful move, but it lowers their Attack and Defense by one stage each time they use it, despite the fact that they have Clear Body. Those negative defensive stat modifiers should prove to be in your favor.

[Evil Fuzzle]

Originally posted by cloudizme
Latias only appears only after the elite four and you've seen the TV event, its best to look around the routes around Mauville City.

About the shinies you're just lucky. I've been playing over 300 hours and not found one.

For the Regis I suggest Making sure they're weak with your false swipe and either paralyze or put them to sleep. Did you stop your shroomish evolving until it learns spore? It learns it at L56 I think. If not just get something with Thunder Wave or Hypnosis

yup, it has spore
and i beat the elite about 6times.. got the tv event..

[Evil Fuzzle]

Originally posted by Don't Run With Scizors
I'm pretty certain defense boosts of the wild Pokémon factor into the catch rate formula - you're probably having trouble catching them because their defense is really high from Cursing. Keep a Hazer (like Weezing) handy to sweep away their boosts, and if you have the opportunity, Encore their Superpower. Superpower is a powerful move, but it lowers their Attack and Defense by one stage each time they use it, despite the fact that they have Clear Body. Those negative defensive stat modifiers should prove to be in your favor.

sounds good, wich poke learns haze the soonest? cuz I dont have any poke who has it

[Don't Run With Scizors]

Koffing learns Haze at level 33, and evolves into Weezing at level 35.

[Evil Fuzzle]

Originally posted by Don't Run With Scizors
Koffing learns Haze at level 33, and evolves into Weezing at level 35.

thanx

[Powarun]

Latias is one of the easier legendaries to catch if you know how, 2x as easy as the 3 legendary dogs, Here is how. http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbad...ias_latios.txt

[Evil Fuzzle]

Originally posted by Powarun
Latias is one of the easier legendaries to catch if you know how, 2x as easy as the 3 legendary dogs, Here is how. http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbad...ias_latios.txt

thanx, I know its easy, just trow a masterbal XD but the others.. the regi's en ryqueza or whatever...

[LightNinetales]

Originally posted by Don't Run With Scizors
I'm pretty certain defense boosts of the wild Pokémon factor into the catch rate formula

And I think you're right.I have a question:do special defense boosts of the wild Pokémon factor into the catch rate formula?

[GoldDraconian]

I've found Latias in two of the four games I've played (one was Modest ^_^). There are probably some good ways to find her, but I unfortunately don't know any tricks. In my current game I have two shinies (one of them a shiny, Modest Tentacool), and no Latias... At least with Latias there are ways to track her down if you really want to, unlike shiny Pokemon...

[TeleFox]

Originally posted by Don't Run With Scizors
I'm pretty certain defense boosts of the wild Pokémon factor into the catch rate formula

I was hoping someone might notice this someday; I've always suspected that this was the case, a few stat decreases always seemed to make catching that much more likely.
Now if only someone could verify it, we'd all be set.

[Powarun]

hmm, well for the other legendaries, all I did was paralize them, cut tehm to low health then throw a constant barray of pokeballs, yeah it is annoying but eventually it will happen. Rayquaza is easier to catch than teh Regi's in my opinion. I used only a few ultraball son him, rather than a million on one Regi alone. If you threw over 50 ultra balls go with Timer balls, because by the time you are up with the ultraballs and Regi what ever didn't stuggel itself to death, your percent of capture will be very high.

[Don't Run With Scizors]

I take that all back. It turns out that defense modifiers have nothing to do with the catch rate formula after all.

Here's the formula: ((((B * 4 - A * 2) * C) / B) + D + 1) / 256

where A is the wild Pokemon's current HP, B is the Pokemon's maximum HP, C is the base capture rate for that particular species, and D is a bonus for having a status effect. What I find really interesting about this formula is that it means that, against the Regis, Pokeballs are actually better than Ultra Balls, cost-effectiveness-wise:

The C value for the Regis is 3, the same as that of all the other legendaries. I'm assuming that they happen to have their max HP at level 40, which is 126, so that's my value for B. I'm also assuming that they've been False Swiped down to 1 HP (which is A) and that they are also asleep (D is 10 if they're asleep or frozen; D is 5 if poisoned, paralyzed, or burned).

Now I throw a regular Pokeball. Since it's just a regular Pokeball, C remains the same.

That's ((((126 * 4 - 1 * 2) * 3) / 126) + 10 + 1) = 22, rounded down. A random number is picked between 1 and 256, and if this number is equal to or less than the resulting number, then it's a successful catch. 22 / 256 = 0.08. That's an 8% chance of catching a Regi with a Pokeball, under those conditions.

Now let's try an Ultra Ball. C gets multiplied by 2, because that's the capture rate modifier for an Ultra Ball.

((((126 * 4 - 1 * 2) * 6) / 126) + 10 + 1) = 33. 33 / 256 = 0.12, meaning that's a 12% chance with an Ultra Ball. That's only a 4% difference! And since you can buy three Pokeballs for the price of one Ultra Ball, using a lot of Pokeballs against the Regis is way more cost effective than throwing Ultra Balls. So instead of buying all those Ultra Balls, buy a lot more Pokeballs. Just note that Ultra Balls are still much more useful against regular Pokemon.

Once the battle reaches 40 turns, though, the capture rate using Timer Balls is a 22% chance, assuming they're asleep and False Swiped down. So keep a couple of those on hand, too.

Thanks to Jolt135 of Azure Heights for the formula and the capture rates.

EDIT: Krazee stuff happened to the formatting. =/

[Silent Dragonfly]

Do you know the C values for all of the other pokemon? Are they like 1, 2 and 3 or is there a larger range? If it's a larger range maybe someone should an make a guide for all pokemon. Then you could save money like you said on buying balls and if there is a high % of capture for a pokemon you would know to reset if you wasted a lot more balls than you needed to.

[Evil Fuzzle]

i still cant get the buggers.. I swipe them to 1hp, and haze and trow milions of ultra balls... could someone maybe post every step they did? thanx alot

[Don't Run With Scizors]

Evil Fuzzle: After you've Swiped them down to 1 HP and put them to sleep, all that's left is luck - and Timer Balls, after the battle has raged on for 40 turns or more. Just keep trying.

cloudizme: Capture rates range up to 255 (the weaker\more common, the easier to get). I only mentioned 3 because it seems to be a very, very, tiny number unique to the legendaries. The next highest number (in RBYGSC, anyway) is 25, which applies to Pokémon like Snorlax and Skarmory.

[HedgeCat]

Evil Fuzzle:

Try using Breloom to put the Regi to sleep on the first turn, then Swipe at it. Put it to sleep when it wakes up. Once it's at 1 hp, toss timer balls and/or ultra balls.

[Evil Fuzzle]

Originally posted by HedgeCat
Evil Fuzzle:

Try using Breloom to put the Regi to sleep on the first turn, then Swipe at it. Put it to sleep when it wakes up. Once it's at 1 hp, toss timer balls and/or ultra balls.

I dooo >_< and I keep running outof balls, 50+ ultra and 30 timer
breloom is lv 66 (spore) , zangoose lv 78, (fals swipe) and koffing lv 34 (haze) I cant make it work >_< and crobal lears haze too right? cuz mine is at level 52 now.. would be better then the koffing..

[Don't Run With Scizors]

Like I said, you just got unlucky, that's all.

You could try Pokéballs, I guess - the catch chance difference between it and the Ultra Ball is insignificant against the Regis, and you can buy six Pokéballs for the price of 1 Ultra Ball.

[Evil Fuzzle]

Originally posted by Don't Run With Scizors
Like I said, you just got unlucky, that's all.

You could try Pokéballs, I guess - the catch chance difference between it and the Ultra Ball is insignificant against the Regis, and you can buy six Pokéballs for the price of 1 Ultra Ball.

well.. my team pickup only finds ultraballs, so there actuly cheaper then the pokeballs X3 but heh.. I'll just train my *** off, a level 100 poke should be able to force them into a ball

[Poryhedron]

Well, your own level only matters if you're using a Nest Ball...other than that you only need to be high-level enough to get the thing to 1HP before you faint.

[Don't Run With Scizors]

Speaking of Nest Balls, where do you find them? I don't recall ever seeing sprites of those ever in the game...

[Silent Dragonfly]

Im pretty sure that Nest Balls are for sale in Verdanturf. The animation is: the ball is thrown, its opens, releases love-hearts and absorbs the pokemon.

[Don't Run With Scizors]

Kickass. Thanks, cloudizme. =)

[Iveechan]

Since this is a topic on legends, I have a question. When you enconter a Lati but decide to catch it later, will its personality always remain the same?

[Silent Dragonfly]

Yeah after you've met it once and saved it's Personality/IVs will stay the same

[Ultimate Pikachu]

For the Regis , I didn't have much trouble. I weakened them until they got really low, then False Swipe. After that either give it a non-damaging status affect and throw Ultra Balls, or use Ultra Balls. I caught Regice with 1 Ultra Ball!? If the battle lasts long, switch to Timer Balls. Timer Balls rule.

I'll post my Latias/Latios strategy later.

[Evil Fuzzle]

thanx pika =3