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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    These rules have been changed a lot so I have a question

    If both players mulligan do you get 7 or 8 cards.

    when your opponent mulligans do u have to put down a basic pokemon from your first 7 cards?
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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    1.If both players mulligan, you'll just end up shuffeling that extra card back.

    2 I don't understand. Do you mean if you draw another Basic can you put it down? Of course you can.

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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    I think the question pertains to the timing of the first Basic Pokemon being placed; that is, do the Basics from your opening hand have to be placed before the opponent can declare a mulligan (and thus your getting to draw extra), or does it go the other way around? Can you draw your extra cards before you have to place a Basic? And frankly, I don't know the answer. My guess is that the declaration of the mulligan doesn't matter, and that you can probably even switch your Active Pokemon if your eventual hand makes a different Basic preferable. But I really don't know.
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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Basically:

    1. Decide who goes first.
    2. Draw 7 cards.
    3. The first person to go first declares if he has a mulligan or not.
    4. If not, go to (6). If yes, the other player checks if he too has a mulligan.
    5. If not, he draws a card and the first player shuffle his hand and draws a new hand. If yes, both players shuffle their hand back into their deck and draw a fresh hand. Either way, go back to (3).
    6. The other player checks if he has a mulligan. If he doesn't continue play. If yes, he shuffles his hand and draws a fresh hand, while the first player draws a card. Continue this step until the 2nd player has a basic to play.

    There you are, the ABCs of solving a mulligan.
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    Correction Roarkiller. The player who does not have a mulligan while the other does MAY choose to draw an extra card. It is not mandatory, seeing as how a person may be trying to deck you out.

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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Water Pokemon Master
    Correction Roarkiller. The player who does not have a mulligan while the other does MAY choose to draw an extra card. It is not mandatory, seeing as how a person may be trying to deck you out.
    While that may be possible (dunno how the guy can purposely get a mulligan though), it applies only to unlimited format when oak was rampant. In modified, that threat is non-existant.

    Meh, you play for 7 years, you know all the tricks of the game. Did you know that you can 'mark' your cards without marking them? Its pretty simple actually, basics of card tricks you see magicians do.
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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Uhhh, yeah it is, especially at pre-releases. Some people and pre-releases AND AT TOURNIES (to some people's surprise), throw one uber EX into their deck and have the rest of the cards be energy. You can imagine how many times it takes to mulligan.

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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Water Pokemon Master
    Correction Roarkiller. The player who does not have a mulligan while the other does MAY choose to draw an extra card. It is not mandatory, seeing as how a person may be trying to deck you out.
    Wasn't this added after the popular Mewtwo Mulligan?(All Psychic energy and 4 Mewtwo. In-game, it took one turn to set up one energy, and then another for Barrier so your opponent decked out. Always played the maximum)

    <.<; Showing my age there, heh...

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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Muffin Man
    Wasn't this added after the popular Mewtwo Mulligan?(All Psychic energy and 4 Mewtwo. In-game, it took one turn to set up one energy, and then another for Barrier so your opponent decked out. Always played the maximum)

    <.<; Showing my age there, heh...
    Holy. That could still work, couldn't it?

    Not like it's really breaking any rules in unlimited either.
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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    As far as I know, Energy Removal has gotten way too common for it to be safe.

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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Ah. I figured there'd be some sort of counter to the Mewtwo deck, couldn't think of one though. But even with a couple of energy removal as long as you've got a few backup Mewtwo on the bench it could work...I guess.

    But it still seems like an idea that would win more than lose, in my opinion.
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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Basic Exs dun always work...(in reply to WPM).. Though u can muligan it out..
    It's proven at our states champs...

    Regarding Mulligan Rule

    1. Mulligan Rule:

    Note that the changes here are only in steps 3 and 4. If you have questions regarding this ruling, please contact us at rulings@pokemon-tcg.com

    Whoever wins the coin toss chooses which player goes first.

    Both players draw an opening hand of 7 cards.

    The player going first checks to see if he or she has a Basic Pokémon card in their hand. If the first player doesn't have any, the other player checks to see if that player has any Basic Pokémon in their hand. If both players do not have a Basic Pokémon in their hands, both players reshuffle their decks and draw 7 cards. Continue this until at least one of the players has at least one Basic Pokémon in their hand.

    If a player still needs to take a mulligan, while the other person has resolved their mulligan already, the player requiring Basic Pokémon still will continue to reshuffle their deck, drawing a new hand, and their opponent may choose to draw a card.

    Quoted here:

    http://op.pokemon-tcg.com/home/rules_change.asp

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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Water Pokemon Master
    Uhhh, yeah it is, especially at pre-releases. Some people and pre-releases AND AT TOURNIES (to some people's surprise), throw one uber EX into their deck and have the rest of the cards be energy. You can imagine how many times it takes to mulligan.
    dun you think it takes too much time..
    hope there is no rules on that...
    then i am going use it in mi next pre..

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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    If you get REALLY lucky, which I have seen happen, and get two ex's of the same type, your opponent is basically screwed. I knew a guy who got both Kyogre ex and Regice ex at a tourny (THEY WERE MINE UNTIL THEY MADE US SWITCH PACKS!!!), and he came in 1st. So, you are always guaranteed to start with an EX this way.

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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Having an EX doesnt necessarily mean you can win easy. Pre-releases use a limited format, and these are hard decks to make. Surprisingly weak cards can make surprisingly good attackers.

    On a side note, mewtwo mulligan sux. Too many ways to kill it.

    Anyway, that prerelease strategy won't really work. Pretty much depends on what EX it is.
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    Default Pokemon: Mulligan Rule Questions.

    Funny how the first place 15+ winners usually have a one-EX deck. But hey, the strategy doesn't work.

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