TPM TCG ( Main Topic )

[Roy Karrde]

Trading Card Game

In the next few weeks you will start noticing a variety of announcements and topics beginning to pop up around the forums. What are these topics and announcements? Well they revolve around something called TPM TCG.

Around a year ago Engi thought up the idea of creating a TPM RPG TCG, while a great idea, people’s attention eventually dwindled. Now a year later, the mods of the forum have considered bringing back the project as a forum wide project. Using Yu Gi Oh rules and cards, we want to create a The Pokemasters Trading Card Game, that allows people to build Custom Yu Gi Oh Decks based on animes, rpgs, tpm characters, fan fics, even forums. The possibilities are only limited by the very creative people of this forum.

So what will this topic contain? Well it will act as a repository of all the cards, deck ideas, and just other ideas created through out the rest of the forums. While I am sure everyone wants to start creating cards, using a website below called the Yu Gi Oh Card Creator. There are a few things we would like to set up first.

To begin with, we want to put a new spin, a TPM spin as it were, on the old Yu Gi Oh staple cards. Cards such as Torrential Tribute, Mystical Space Typhoon, Heavy Storm, and others, need names to fit our new trading card game. So in this topic and others, the mods will be open for ideas and input on what we should call these new cards.

Now I know you want to start making cards and battling, but the framework needs to be set up first. After that we can start accepting cards and decks, and then releasing a special version of Yu Gi Oh Virtual Desktop so that everyone can duel using their own TPM decks.

Before doing this we are open to all ideas and input, how you feel, what did we miss, what can we do to make this better?

But hey in the meantime enjoy the Yu Gi Oh Creation Website.
Yu Gi Oh Creation Website

Yu Gi Oh Card Changes to TPM Cards
Dark Hole = Server Change
Pot of Greed = Double Post
Solemn Judgement = Declaration of Mod
Swords of Revealing Light = Thread Locked
Waboku = Temp Ban

Cards up for Debate
The Grey Hunter
Call of the Wolf
The Inquisitor
Face Eater Squig
Charge of the Juggernaut
Defence Breaker
Bezerker Champion
Fields of Khorne
The Betrayer
Blood for the Blood God

Drama Bomb
Young Warrior
Old Warlord
Aspiring Champion
Ride to Valhalla

WMD Hunt
I get to push the button!

Flame Bait
Limed for Truth
Godwin's Law.

Dread Knight of Healdtannia
1000 Years of Devistation

The Jitz
Divide by Zero
Banhammer

Theory of Evolution
Renew
Ninja!!!1
Epic Loot
Banish

B.O.W. T-Zombie
B.O.W. Crimson Head
B.O.W. Licker
B.O.W. Chimera
B.O.W. Bandersnatch
B.O.W. Web Spinner
B.O.W. Tyrant T-002
B.O.W. Tyrant T-103
B.O.W. Tyrant Nemisis
B.O.W. Nyx

Misc Marauder Heald
Misc Marauder Raz
Misc Marauder Muffin Man
Misc Marauder Fat man with a Monkey
Misc Marauder Tainted
Horn of the Marauders
Misc Forum
Sock Puppet
Its over 9000!!!!

Cards for TPM Fun
None Yet

Cards added to YVD.
None Yet

Current YVD Set Download
1.0 Coming Soon

[starjake]

This sounds like a vastly entertaining concept. However, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Is this a sort of Create-A-Card idea, (i.e. turn board members, etc into cards)? Would we take Dark Hole and make its name Server Change (the two do have similar effects)? The re-naming aspect worries me...there's only so far one can go with 'flaming', for example.

Perhaps if you were to provide examples of what you mean, I'd understand it better.

[Dark-San]

Is this a sort of Create-A-Card idea, (i.e. turn board members, etc into cards)? Would we take Dark Hole and make its name Server Change (the two do have similar effects)? The re-naming aspect worries me...there's only so far one can go with 'flaming', for example.

Correction. It is more of a Create Cards and make them into a Deck and battle together idea.

Yeah and not to worry on the renaming portion. As far as it goes, the issue would be open up for discussion in the near future to all participants. ^.^

[Roy Karrde]

Sure I just added a renamming section, hopefully everyone can avoid the flaming and make this a topic that is fun for everyone.

Test Card for a Ghostbusters Deck

[starjake]

Actually, what I meant by 'flaming' was using the word as part of a re-named card; I was just using it as an example.

For those of us who have written YGO fanfics, are we allowed to add those cards that we've created for those fics? I was worried that the only cards allowed would be ones that are themed around TPM, but then I saw the Ghostbusters card.

Oh, and, BTW...

Solemn Judgment = Declaration of Mod

^_^

[Roy Karrde]

XD Awesome name for Solemn Judgement. Yeah the idea is to create your own fake card decks. Then with a hacked version of Yu Gi Oh Virtual Desktop, battle eachother with the hacked decks. The only thing is they cannot be over powered so the mods will be keeping a eye on all new cards created.

[starjake]

Another question: Are ANY actual cards allowed? Or must everything currently in existence be renamed?

(How would one rename Sacred Phoenix of Nephthys? Or D.3.S. Frog - that's already in l33t-speak.)

[Roy Karrde]

Actual cards are allowed, the renaming thing is just for added fun.

[starjake]

Perhaps some of those are more artistically inclined would be willing to offer their help in the card-creating. I, for one, am terrible at creating physical pictures to go along with my cards.

[Weasel Overlord]

*chimes in* Yup, there's been volunteers already for the arty side of things, if we so wish. As for what cards to create, like Dark- and Roy said, it can be anything you want that goes with your deck theme (we're gonna be encouraging everyone to make their own theme and cards anyway, so lah). With the renaming, we wanted to use some of the staple cards cos obviously they're quite important - but to make it less of a straight-out theft from YGO we're changing the names and perhaps the effects slightly of these ones.

Is that helpful? There'll be a topic up in RPG in a little while too, if you wanna wander over there too and have a looksee.

[starjake]

Here are a couple of things I thought up for new versions of older cards.

Raigeki could become...

Thunderbolt
Normal Spell
Activate by selecting 1 Level 5 or higher Thunder-Type monster you control. Destroy all monsters your opponent controls. The selected monster cannot attack this turn.

Harpie's Feather Duster could become...

Harpie's Feather Sweep
Normal Spell
Activate only while you control a "Harpie Lady" monster. Destroy all Spell and Trap Cards your opponent controls.

Maybe a good way to come up with a decent list of these sorts of cards would be to take the current Forbidden list and modify all the cards on it. A large task, yes, but worth it (and fun!) in the end.

[Weasel Overlord]

Wow, Raigeki and Feather Duster! Old school man, I've not seen a deck with those cards in for YEARS! Hehe.

As for modifying the forbidden cards, do you mean in order to include them? We'd have to decide whether to ban cards, too, or whether to just not allow over-powered ones to begin with.

[starjake]

If we have the power to modify cards, why do we need to ban them? The whole point of this idea is to be as creative as possible, and just banning a card because it's too strong seems like the easy way out. Thunderbolt and Feather Sweep are just two examples; I'm sure we could come up with newer, less-broken versions of every card that's currently banned if we wanted to.

Out of curiosity, who are the people heading up this project?

[Dark-San]

If we have the power to modify cards, why do we need to ban them?

There are already existing cards in the metagame that is the lesser powerful card version. Take for example;

Rageiki (Thunderbolt) is replaced by Lightning Vortex
Harpie Feather Duster is replaced by Tempest (Heavy Storm)

So all we do is to accept the present lesser powerful card version and allow some of the present metagame mechanism to run.

Out of curiosity, who are the people heading up this project?

As we are now, the present moderating team would be the ones that would be pulling the strings. We have not ruled out any possibilities of having members outside the moderating team to assist us. This project is still in its infant stage, hence they are a lot of things for us to handle. However we can reassure you that the ones heading this project generally have experiences in playing Duel Monsters, whether would it be competitively or leisurely at some point in their life.

Looking around I do kind of sense that we are lacking some sort of discussion here. I am not sure of this but we can start some discussion on the rulings and card allowance.

**～**

Duel Monster Rules remained the same as the present game in addition of the ones below,

1) The minimum deck card that should be allowed into the game should be 40. And the maximum should be at 45.

2) Since the project allows a certain number of cards to run the basic mechanism of the game, the below list the approved,

Magic Cards allowed into the game
Pot of Avarice (Max: 1)
Cyclone (Max: 1)
Tempest (Max: 1)
Lightning Vortex (Max: 2)

Trap Cards allowed into the game
Call of the Haunted (Max: 1)
Destruction Ring (Max: 1)
Holy Barrier – Mirror Force (Max: 1)

3) The above list would be monitored and rotated off if it is found to be overpowered in the project.

4) As the project promotes the usage of individual theme cards, players are allowed to choose a card from the present card list that would only be beneficial to the deck’s main tribe.

5) The project promotes creativity. Hence all other cards except the ones from the above list would have to be individually created by the players themselves.

**～**

[Houndoom_Lover]

This is a dream come true!!!! ^.^ *practically in joy tears* I've-AGH! Looked! And dreamed! This *anime tears* Is beautiful...*flails about excitedly* Count me in on this craaaaaazy party!!! ^o^!!!

[starjake]

*nods* Very well.

Just for clarification (not everyone has experience with the OCG)...

Cyclone = Mystical Space Typhoon
Tempest = Heavy Storm
Destruction Ring = Ring of Destruction*
Holy Barrier - Mirror Force = Mirror Force

*This is only an assumption, for there is an actual TCG card named Destruction Ring. You destroy one of your own monsters and inflict 1000 damage to each player.

Also, I cringe ever-so-slightly when I see 4). How will it be judged if one (or any) of the seven listed cards are 'beneficial to the deck's main tribe'? All seven cards are highly useful in just about any deck that plans on winning.

It's actually this exact rule that makes me think modifying the card effects themselves might be better than forbidding them outright. If they are modified (with added activation costs and/or requirements, for example), there would be no need to forbid them, because a) we know they would be fair, b) we know they would be beneficial only in certain decks, and c) we would still be being creative.

[Dark-San]

Also, I cringe ever-so-slightly when I see 4). How will it be judged if one (or any) of the seven listed cards are 'beneficial to the deck's main tribe'? All seven cards are highly useful in just about any deck that plans on winning.

You have seriously mistaken here. Under number 3, all the above seven cards, which I had mentioned, could be used in any deck but only up to a certain allowed number as indicated in the brackets. The deck user could choose to use them or to ignore them.

These cards under the list for number 3 will only undergo a name change and its effect would still be retain. The moderators had considered each card as playable and not so overly powered like their predecessors. Of course if you think that there are other cards that must be included in that list to make the deck more playable, by all means you can voiced it out.

Rule number four has no relations to number 3. I had thought of this rule carefully myself before allowing it in the game. Take for example the card, Umi. It is an existing field card from the present metagame that is beneficial to all main water types. The card itself is beneficial to only water themed decks. So if you are playing a water themed deck, you might want to consider on using it yourself since the card would be allowed into the deck under rule number four.

It's actually this exact rule that makes me think modifying the card effects themselves might be better than forbidding them outright. If they are modified (with added activation costs and/or requirements, for example), there would be no need to forbid them, because a) we know they would be fair, b) we know they would be beneficial only in certain decks, and c) we would still be being creative.

Well, you could do that. I did not say that it is not allowed. You can create any cards you want with any additional requirements but in the end, it would be us that judge to see if the card is overpowered. I hope that answers your questions.

[Ultimate Charizard]

A Restrict list would work better than an all out Ban list.
It stops people relying on the old 'get out of jail cards' that noones seen for so long cos theyve been on banlists for years etc.

The only thing to watch for is 'alternate' cards that are really exactly the same with minimal drawbacks.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

I know this is a pathetic attempt of a card, I don't know a thing about the Yu-Gi-Oh! game, just read the first volume of manga, which featured no cards at all. So I don't know what kind of text I should write in which place.



Sorry if you don't see imageshack but I didn't bother to look for my photobucket password. I left it home.

[Ultimate Charizard]

One thing i would like to ask, for anyone that currently uses YVD where are the later sets downloaded from. Im not sure where i am (downloaded the latest version of YVD) but i know cards like Hero Kid arent on my deck shop etc and that set was years ago.

[Andrew]

I think you need more realistic photos for the "Members" in the Misc Ma etc

[Ultimate Charizard]

The problem with them at the moment heald is that for example....

(and i know its not likely to pull it off and have all these cards in your hand at the same time but...)
Play Misc Maurauder Tainted
Play Horn of the Maurauders.
Summon 1 of each Maurauder card (so thats 5 of em)

You instanty, after playing Monster and 1 magic card have...

Misc Maurauder Heald - 2500/2500
Misc Maurauder Raz - 3500/3500
Misc Maurauder Muffin Man - 5500/2500
Misc Maurauder Fat Man with a Monkey - 1500/1500 (i assume it doesnt affect itself)
Misc Maurauder Tainted - 3000/2500

And thats without including 'Misc Forum'
If you survive the initial battering that they give the only way to deal with them is to summon something that can take out Fat man to lower the rest of thems attack, before getting slapped by the rest and hope you dont play another fat man before they have chance to deal with the rest of them.

[Heald]

I can think of literally dozens of hands where 'if you happened to have all the right cards in your hand at one point in the game you'd win' that'd be a lot worse than that.

Since Raz is now a better Muffin Man, I reckon Raz ought to have his Effect changed to being able to deal 500 direct damage to LP if there is another MM on the field.

Anyway, if we include my new nerfs, this is what a full field would look like:

MM Raz: 2000/1500
MM Muffin Man: 4000/1500
MM Heald: 2000/1500
MM FMWAM: 1500/1500
MM Tainted: 2000/1500

Plus add 500 to any of them for Horn of the Marauders, and maybe 500 more with Misc Forum.

At the moment, Muffin Man is the only one who is overpowered. But, I have actually had a field that was even more overpowered than this one, and easier to get out. Basically, Ultimate Baseball Kids with Solar Flare Dragons means I've had 3 cards with 4500 ATK on the field and 2 cards that couldn't be attacked. Any monster could take down an undefended FMWAM.

If need be, I'll nerf the Horn of the Marauders so it allows only one special summon per turn.

[Ultimate Charizard]

Or perhaps since its meant to call the Maurauders together perhaps make it continuous and you may special summon 1 per turn from your hand or deck.

[mr_pikachu]

Considering how long it took me to go through all the cards last time - I hate my internet connection - I'm not going to see how the suggested edits would affect them at this time. Others can discuss that.

I have, however, created some Fanfic-themed cards of my own. I'll list them below (no image tags, since that would certainly irritate those who don't want to view them all).


Fanficcer - Gavin Luper
Fanficcer - mr_pikachu
Fanfiction
Writing Process
Writer's Block
Hiatus
Breakthrough
Computer Crash
Burnout
Trainer Fic
Yu-Gi-Oh! Fic
Original Fic
Joint Fic
Chain Fic
Bad Fic
Crossover
Shipping Fic
Abandoned Fic
Fic Revival
Plot Twist
Dedicated Reader
Fanbase
Silver Pencil
Golden Pen
Awards Award
Overworked
Fanficcer - dratinihaunter13
Fanficcer - Dark Sage
Fanficcer - Master of Paradox
Fanficcer - Blademaster
Fanficcer - Dragonfree
Fanficcer - Shuppet Master
Fanficcer - Evil Mewf0ur
Fanficcer - Samchu
Fanficcer - eevee-shayna
Fanficcer - Charles Legend
Fanficcer - Mega Horny
The Writers Lounge
The Fanfiction Hall of Fame
Explicit Content
CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
Real Life
Copyright Infringement Lawsuit
Fanficcer - Bjarni Haraldur Sigfüsson
Distraction #1
Distraction #2
Distraction #3


Comments and critiques are welcome. More cards coming soon.

[Weasel Overlord]

Okay, making cards is officially classed as an addictive pastime. I have spent all day doing these... AND I WANT TO MAKE MORE!! Argh!

But yes. Here's the FFX set, edition 001.

Aeon - Anima
Anima's Fayth
Aeon - Bahamut
Bahamut's Fayth
Aeon - Ifrit
Ifrit's Fayth
Aeon - Ixion
Aeon - Magus Sisters
Aeon - Shiva
Shiva's Fayth
Aeon - Yojimbo
Yojimbo's Fayth
Aeon - Valefor
Valefor's Fayth
Braska's Final Aeon
Bride Yuna
Go Moogle!
Guardian Auron
Guardian Jecht
High Summoner Braska
Lady Yuna
Pyreflies
Seymour Guado
Summoner Seymour
Summoner Yuna
The Final Summoning
The Sending
Tidus
Unsent - Auron
Unsent - Jecht
Unsent - Tidus
Wedding
Yuna's Sacrifice

Any tweaks, etc. let me know!

[Ultimate Charizard]

One thing ive noticed.

The sending is a little broken. If for example you take 3 of each of the Unsent cards and activate that spell thats 10200 Direct damage caused in one hit?

[starjake]

OK, time for some preliminaries from me...you can probably guess their theme...

Benu Phoenix
Phoenix Flock of the Sixth Heaven
Phoenix Tears
Skyfire Avatar
Skyfire Summons
Skyfire Unification
Suzaku's Good Fortune

EDIT: Hmm, the Avatar's text is a little on the...well, little side.

Skyfire Avatar
Fire/Pyro - Fusion - Effect/12 stars/ATK 3000/DEF 3000
1 Level 6 or higher FIRE Dragon-Type monster + 1 Level 6 or higher FIRE Winged-Beast-Type monster
This card cannot be Special Summoned except by Fusion Summon. This card's Fusion Summon can only be conducted with the above Fusion Material monsters. You can Tribute this card to destroy all cards on the field and gain 300 Life Points per card. When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard, add its Fusion Material monsters from the Graveyard to their owners' hands.

[starjake]

*pokes*

...where did everyone go?

After doing a bit of research on Xerocreative, I found out that, unfortunately, we're not able to modify the actual restricted list provided by YVD; it comes from an Internet link from Xerocreative, not a changeable file in the program folder. (Not sure if anyone had noticed yet, but YVD physically prevents you from creating a deck that violates the restricted list).

Speaking of the restricted list...I remember that Roy said he was going to put one up at some point. How are we doing on that?

And, since the banlist currently listed in this forum is heinously outdated, here is the current list. (OCG name on the left, TCG name on the right)

Banned (0 copies allowed in your Deck/Fusion Deck/Extra Deck and Side Deck combined)

Black Forest Witch // Witch of the Black Forest
Chaos Emperor Dragon - Messenger of the End // Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End
Chaos Soldier - Messenger of Beginning // Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
Chaos Sorceror // Chaos Sorcerer
Cyber Pod // Cyber Jar
Devil Franken // Cyber-Stein
Executioner Makyura // Makyura the Destructor
Fiber Pod // Fiber Jar
Killer Snake // Sinister Serpent
Magic Warrior Breaker // Breaker the Magical Warrior
Magical Scientist // Magical Scientist
Saint Magician // Magician of Faith
Thousand Eye Sacrifice // Thousand-Eyes Restrict
Tribe Infecting Virus // Tribe-Infecting Virus
Tsukuyomi // Tsukuyomi
Victory Dragon // Victory Dragon
Yatagarasu // Yata-Garasu
Angel's Gift // Graceful Charity
Black Hole // Dark Hole
Change of Heart // Change of Heart
Confiscate // Confiscation
Dagger of Butterflies - Eruma // Butterfly Dagger - Elma
Distressful Choice // Painful Choice
Dimensional Fusion // Dimension Fusion <- (TCG only)
Harpy's Feather Sweep // Harpie's Feather Duster
Metamorphosis // Metamorphosis
Mirage of Nightmares // Mirage of Nightmare
Mischevious Demon Twins // Delinquent Duo
Pharaoh's Shrine // Cathedral of Nobles *
Pot of Greed // Pot of Greed
Steadfast Guard // The Forceful Sentry
Theft // Snatch Steal
Thunder Bolt // Raigeki
Will // Last Will
Cry of the Living Dead // Call of the Haunted
Destruction Ring // Ring of Destruction
Imperial Decree // Imperial Order
Last Battle! // Last Turn
Reversal of World // Exchange of the Spirit
Sixth Sense // Sixth Sense *
Time Seal // Time Seal

Limited (1 copy allowed in your Deck/Fusion Deck/Extra Deck and Side Deck combined)

Black Magician of Chaos // Dark Magician of Chaos
Card Gunner // Card Trooper
Critter // Sangan
Dandelion // Dandelion *
Destiny Hero Discguy // Destiny Hero - Disk Commander
Dol Dora // Twin-Headed Behemoth
Elemental Hero Airman // Elemental Hero Stratos
Emissary of Hades - Gorz // Messenger of Ha Des - Gors *
Female Warrior of Another Dimension // D.D. Warrior Lady
Forest Guard Green Baboon // Green Baboon, Defender of the Forest
Metamol Pod // Morphing Jar
Marshmellon // Marshmallon
Neospacian Ground Mole // Neo-Spacian Grand Mole
Night Assassin // Night Assailant
Sealed Exodia // Exodia the Forbidden One
Sealed Left Hand // Left Arm of the Forbidden One
Sealed Left Leg // Left Leg of the Forbidden One
Sealed Right Hand // Right Arm of the Forbidden One
Sealed Right Leg // Right Leg of the Forbidden One
Snipestalker // Snipe Hunter
Soul Reaping Spirit // Spirit Reaper
Wind Monarch - Raizar // Raiza the Storm Monarch
Yomigaeru // Treeborn Frog
Advanced Ritual Technique // Advanced Ritual Art
Brain Control // Brain Control
Chain Strike // Chain Strike
Cyclone // Mystical Space Typhoon
Dimensional Fusion // Dimension Fusion <- (OCG only)
Early Burial // Premature Burial
Earth Crusher // Smashing Ground
Emissary of Obliteration // Nobleman of Crossout
Fissure // Fissure
Future Fusion // Future Fusion
Golden Chest of Sealing // Gold Sarcophagus
Hand Obliteration // Card Destruction
Hurricane // Giant Trunade
Level B Restriction Area // Level Limit - Area B
Limiter Removal // Limiter Removal
Megamorph // Megamorph
Overload Fusion // Overload Fusion
Power of Teamwork // United We Stand
Raise Dead // Monster Reborn
Scapegoat // Scapegoat
Sealing Swords of Light // Swords of Revealing Light
Tempest // Heavy Storm
Ceasefire Agreement // Ceasefire
Compensation of Blood // Ultimate Offering
Deck Destruction Virus of Death // Crush Card Virus
Gravity Bind // Gravity Bind
Holy Barrier - Mirror Force // Mirror Force
Magic Cylinder // Magic Cylinder
Mind Crush // Mind Crush
Ojama Trio // Ojama Trio
Prophecy of Reincarnation // The Transmigration Prophecy
Return from Another Dimension // Return from the Different Dimension <- (TCG only)
Sealing Wall of Light // Wall of Revealing Light
Tidal Wave // Torrential Tribute
Trap Dustshoot // Trap Dustshoot

Semi-Limited (2 copies allowed in your Deck/Fusion Deck/Extra Deck and Side Deck combined)

Cyber Dragon // Cyber Dragon
Destiny Hero Diabolicguy // Destiny Hero - Malicious
Light and Darkness Dragon // Light and Darkness Dragon
Manticore of Darkness // Manticore of Darkness
Mask of Darkness // Mask of Darkness
Necroface // Necroface
Allure of Darkness // Allure of Darkness **
Book of Moon // Book of Moon
Calling Reinforcements // Reinforcement of the Army
Foolish Burial // Foolish Burial
Magic Shard Excavation // Magical Stone Excavation
Power of Magicians // Mage Power
Royal Decree // Royal Decree

* Has not yet been released in the TCG
** Has not yet been released in the OCG


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