DragonballZ RPG

[Heald]

Hey. I remember a bunch of us used to take part in these and they used to be fun. People like pokemasterfrank, Outlaw JT, U_C, Bulba4, and the rest (sorry if I omitted any, I know there are loads more out there who love it). I was just wondering if anyone out there was still up for a DBZ RPG? I'm a little tied-up with WoH at the moment (which will be starting soon, I swear!) but if someone wanted to collaborate or just do it by themselves, then go ahead. I just want to canvas the forum to see if there is any support for one?

[Asilynne]

Ive been waiting for one for a couple of years, to tell the truth I miss Dragonball SA, the best dbz rpg Ive ever been in ;.; I liked battling your super androids and losing XD
I motion for frank to remake it

[Heald]

Yeah, unfortunately frank hasn't been active since May, according to his profile anyway...

EDIT: That said, apparently he was lurking earlier this morning. Maybe next time he does, he'll see this topic.

I also don't think my androids would return, although I seem to remember that your character beat my android in the Budokai by ring-out, so it wasn't all doom and gloom, hehe.

I'd like to see the return of the mainstays of our DBZ rpgs though, such as Garen, Gav and Rudy. I seem to remember Garen being teh pwnage.

[Blademaster]

Uhhhh...

My last three sigs (current sig included).

Need I say more?

EDIT: Nice new avatar, Heald. PlayItBogart rocks.

[Houndoom_Lover]

*voted for Robot Nixon* I'd help out, I'm tired of being lazy and log like like I have for the last past...months was it *itches my belly*

[Ultimate Charizard]

Dragonball VG is what got me into this community and made me stay.
Id be more than willing to dust off the Genetic freak for another stab at this.

I think it would work best (as VG did for almost 3 seasons) with the Bad Guys being NPC's so the story is from one sides perspective, with the RPG leader bringing them in for plot points or whatever.
When you have too many sides and sub plots rpg's can get a bit confused.

[Asilynne]

Ill have to tell Rudy about this, he might want to help someone write one because hes been complaining about wanting to play Rudy again lol

[Mystic_clown]

I've been hoping a DBZ RPG would come up again. I was hoping to make one myself, but I never got around to it.

Charizard's idea works well. I vote we should go with it.

[Andrew]

Powering Up

BBL in about 5 weeks.

[classy_cat18]

I wasn't up for it at first, but then I remembered how much I loved DBZ when it was on weekday Toonami. And everyone's psyched about it and now I'm psyched about it...

Maybe I'll play a guy character this time. Ooh, maybe Kite!

[Mystic_clown]

I've already got a character planned, but I'm not so sure about his history though.

[Bulbasaur4]

I'd totally bring back Gorin or my weird Tengu-wahtever her name was freak. OH OH or Yasu!! MY KITTY! OR IDAIA MY NAMEK!!
ZOMG, totally bringing back my kid namek boy.
xD

[Mystic_clown]

Alright, I've noticed that even with all the talk of a DBZ RPG, we're still to see one, and after watching Dragonball Z Abridged on youtube, my interest in this has been renewed. So consider this post a massive "Come over and look at this topic" sign.

[Asilynne]

I agree <3 I read though what I have of Dragonball VG (the new one) so Im all fired up to play a Vegeta-esque character XD

[Mystic_clown]

Do you happen to have a link to that? I've heard a lot of it, but never seen it.

[Asilynne]

Do you happen to have a link to that? I've heard a lot of it, but never seen it.

Yes, of the new one anyway. Keep in mind that this isnt the legendary Dragonball VG, I was never in that one and it was so long ago its long since been deleted :< Youll have to ask Kalah, Gav, JT and Rudy about that one ^-^()

http://www.pokemasters.net/forums/sh...ght=dragonball

[Mystic_clown]

Thanks ^_^ Now for the rest of you *holds out cookies* anyone willing to give this a try?

[Blademaster]

I have a character ready to go that at least 2 of you have seen.

Heald said he'd help me with a plot, but the lazy bastard has YET to get back to me.

[Heald]

When the hell did I ever say that?

However, I will help you with a plot. AIM me boy.

[Asilynne]

When the hell did I ever say that?

However, I will help you with a plot. AIM me boy.

Can I get in on this sexy DBZ action? lol

[Mystic_clown]

Me too, only I don't have AIM T.T

[Ultimate Charizard]

Im soooo in for this. Been a while since ive been in an RPG that got the creative juices flowing

[The_Missing_Link]

I've been an observer of these DBZ RPGs for years and I think it's time for me to get involved and participate

[Master Rudy]

Heh....good number of posts....plenty of intrest.....wonder what the topic's power level is.....
*checks his scouter*
!!!
IT'S OVER 9000!!!!!
lol had to do it.....

In any case I'm always game and I'm here with suggestions:
1-No Super Saiyans to start
Biggest problem with any DBZ RPG to me is the fact that once Super Saiyans get into the mix it tends to kill the usefulness of humans. While SSJ is eventually a blast to play it's got to stay away for the time being.

2-No player villians
The last few attempts at this have had an RPer covering the role of a villian. This can be very bad if that person should happen to go inactive. Heald had it right. Flesh out the personallies enough so anyone can use the character in a post without getting it wrong. You guys need a prime example? Look up DotBM in the archive and read up to the point where Lantis becomes a major player in the plot.

3-No overpowered characters
Kinda goes hand in hand with no Super Saiyans but it must be stated anyway. Prime example was my own character actually. IIRC I had the Kamehameha, Final Flash, Final Kamehameha (due to knowing the other two), Masenko and Solar Flare to name a few. While some crossover would be ok since IMO a Kamehameha>Masenko (Gohan for the most part does stop using the latter in the Cell Saga)there needs to be a limit.

4-No GT
Explains itself.....

5-Minor involvement of the original Z Fighters (if any)
IMO while it's ok to bring in the old cast it needs to be done carefully. Too much involvement can get cheesy very fast as can creating a situation just for the sake of saying "Hey look it's _____!!!" Me and Gav talked off and on about a new RPG awhile back and I think we had one good idea in this area but I'm going to hold off on saying it. Of course if a new DBZ RPG pops up any time soon I may look into seeing if it can be worked in since I personally thought it was a good one ^_^

In any case there's my two cents for now. Hope to see something happen in this area because I'd like to bring Rudy Summers back while at the same time trying to make him be a little more original and less of a Trunks clone appearence wise with a different hair color (can't promise that'll happen but meh....never know )

[Blademaster]

^The problem with that layout is that it only applies to those whose RPG idea(s) build off of the canon DBZ.

The idea I proposed to Heald a few weeks or months back, for instance, took place in an alternate, futuristic reality where the Saiyan homeworld (Obviously not called 'Vegeta' since this is a different timeline) was still intact, and also that Super Saiyans were commonplace due to... One moment...

(gets flame shield up)

...Due to the 'one-in-a-millennium' Super Saiyan myth referring not to normal Super Saiyans, but rather to Legendary Super Saiyans like Broly. It seems logical to assume that this could happen, considering all a Saiyan needs to transform is a sufficiently powerful emotional surge (Goku's rage at Frieza over killing his best friend, Vegeta's desperation over being on the verge of death via asteroid pwnage before he could one up his rival, Gohan's pent-up fury being unleashed at the sight of his friend's head getting squashed by Cell, etc.).

That, and if we DO opt for a futuristic timeline, who's to say that Super Saiyans will be as godly as they are now? if they can get stronger, surely other races both existing and character-created can grow more powerful, can they not? Super Namekian 2 or 3, anybody? Or perhaps the obvious-yet-untapped Super Human?

That's my opinion, anyway (an opinion influenced by my character being Saiyan, but an opinion regardless).

[Master Rudy]

^The problem with that layout is that it only applies to those whose RPG idea(s) build off of the canon DBZ.

The idea I proposed to Heald a few weeks or months back, for instance, took place in an alternate, futuristic reality where the Saiyan homeworld (Obviously not called 'Vegeta' since this is a different timeline) was still intact, and also that Super Saiyans were commonplace due to... One moment...

(gets flame shield up)

...Due to the 'one-in-a-millennium' Super Saiyan myth referring not to normal Super Saiyans, but rather to Legendary Super Saiyans like Broly. It seems logical to assume that this could happen, considering all a Saiyan needs to transform is a sufficiently powerful emotional surge (Goku's rage at Frieza over killing his best friend, Vegeta's desperation over being on the verge of death via asteroid pwnage before he could one up his rival, Gohan's pent-up fury being unleashed at the sight of his friend's head getting squashed by Cell, etc.).

That, and if we DO opt for a futuristic timeline, who's to say that Super Saiyans will be as godly as they are now? if they can get stronger, surely other races both existing and character-created can grow more powerful, can they not? Super Namekian 2 or 3, anybody? Or perhaps the obvious-yet-untapped Super Human?

That's my opinion, anyway (an opinion influenced by my character being Saiyan, but an opinion regardless).

It's crazy enough of an idea to actually have the potential to work.

Broly aside since people will fight over him being cannon or not until the end of the world the way I see it is that when people think of DBZ they think of Toriyama's world. Since my other obsession of the moment is the Chrono series let's look at that for a moment (it also came to mind since AT did the art for it). The running theroy is that prior to Crono's inital jump in time that certain key moments had very different outcomes. One of the main ones is the Battle of Zenan Bridge. In game it's clearly seen that without Crono that the Guardia forces would have lost that battle since they were getting raped by the Mystics/Fiends. So who in the original timeline protected the bridge and led the forces? Some people myself included think Crono helping Frog/Glenn resuce Leene demoralized him to the point of hanging up his sword as seen in his early game line "I shall depart for good." Had Crono not jumped back in time to 600 AD he would have never met Frog and in turn he would have stuck with the Guardia Army and led them during the battle. Plus don't forget DBZ itself and the whole story involving Trunks and the Androids. If Trunks never jumped back in time he would have never been observed by Dr. Gero's little spy robot and in turn there would be no Android 19 and 20 not to mention vastly different versions of 17 and 18. Granted they still had the directive to kill Goku but I see the Buu Timeline versions of them more as troublemakers and thrillseekers since they never killed anyone and saw finding Goku as a game as opposed to the Trunks Timeline versions that instantly went on a killing rampage. In addition that rampage is the same one Gero and 19 went on in the new timeline not to mention Gero had to reactive them which leads me to believe Trunks showing up forced him to alter his plans and abandon that part of the project. In short their brainwashing was never fully finished.

Time travel is a fun little bitch....

That being said and using a theroy of different timelines what's to say that there was not a version of the DBZ timeline where Bardock was successful in warning King Vegeta and the elites of Frieza's true intent? As strong as Frieza was it's entirely possible that even he could not have fought off an entire army of Saiyans working together. This in turn could have led the Saiyans down a different path. Seeing that they were being used with Frieza's defeat they would have been free to do what they wanted. Sure some may have still gone down the path of being space pirates and destroying worlds but others could have simply become explorers. Plus as a warrior race with a good deal of them looking for a good fight many more may have become mercs and bounty hunters.

In addition if you toss Super Nameks and Super Humans into the mix that could lead to each race having their own powers in that form. Maybe something along the lines of Nameks having an advanced ability to heal, withstand pain and regen during battle or humans having super speed and greater manipulation of ki (it was Krillin and Tien that came up with some of the cooler attacks and skills after all).

I think with a little time and everyone working together that this'll come along very nicely ^_~

[Blademaster]

Hmm, I like Rudy's idea for an alternate timeline.

The idea I proposed to Heald a few weeks or months back, for instance, took place in an alternate, futuristic reality

[Blademaster]

I got mindfucked during your little time travel thing there, Rudy, but thanks for being so open-minded - you wouldn't believe how batshit-looney DBZ fans went when I proposed ideas like what I had to them.

[Master Rudy]

I got mindfucked during your little time travel thing there, Rudy, but thanks for being so open-minded - you wouldn't believe how batshit-looney DBZ fans went when I proposed ideas like what I had to them.

No problem. What some people fail to remember is you can be a hardcore fan WITHOUT being batshit crazy
In any case are we any closer to perhaps getting things rolling on this idea?

[Mystic_clown]

I hope so. I like the idea of there not being one major plot, but many different plots as the RPG goes on, a lot like the DBZ sagas

[Mystic_clown]

Sorry for the Double Post, but I too have come up with a small idea for a possible saga in this (I say saga because when it comes to DBZ, how can you only have one storyline?)

This adds on to Rudy's version of an alternate timeline (because I can actually see this happening). If the saiyans weren't destroyed, you can imagine those who turned to mercenary work of piracy are still going about causing havoc and chaos throughout the universe. With this sort of thing going on, you can imagine someone getting pissed and declaring revenge on the whole Saiyan race.

The first saga could be these genocidal maniacs coming to earth to take out any Saiyans currently on the planet, and anything else that gets in their way.

On a different note, will Androids be available as characters? Just asking.

[Ultimate Charizard]

Id say it depends when its set.

The androids were a specific creation of 1 man who was hailed a genius ahead of his time. If the fic is set in a future setting then sure, technology may have progressed that far without Gero.

Otherwise id leave it at maybe some cyber-manipulation but not full Android. Of course i cant really be too critical of Charachter origins if anyone remembers my old VG char (and yes i do plan to bring him back )

I like the idea of those seeking vengeance on Saiyans sensing Saiyan DNA on earth etc. It could actually be used to open up later Saga's. In that perhaps for whatever reason Earth is declared exempt from Saiyan Dominance by order of Vegeta since its his new home (im using future setting rather than altiverse though could still rewrite to include the Saiyan uprising) and as such Earth has forgotten about the Saiyans. These invaders explain a few things, get the decendants curious and they set out to find the Saiyans, good and bad etc.

[Heald]

I've been toying with a story that might be similar to a previous RPG we had, I can't remember, but basically it is set in the future where the children of the original Z-Fighter Saiyans have become so human that it is impossible for them to go Super-Saiyan anymore, but they still have superior natural ability to humans, but for example they stopped being born with tails, and lets just say for the sake of argument that if a descendant of a Saiyan is born without a tail, they can't go Super (Gohan was born with a tail, so we can assume half-Saiyans are born with tails and can go Super). Eventually, with the world's population growing so large they decide to use the Dragonballs to make a new planet for those who have Saiyan-blood (this will range in the thousands now) and ask the Dragon to make the children of all the people that move to this planet to be full-blooded Saiyans.

Eventually humans and Nameks start moving to New Vegeta (the new planet) and as human technology improves, they begin making an empire by colonising their solar system then other planets, and the Saiyans and Nameks are their allies. To keep good relations between the races good and to maintain their fighting prowess, an annual galactic Budokai is held every year on Earth, with any aliens that come by Earth also welcome to join.

However, eventually this growing empire attracts the attention of a group of fighter-aliens who want to take over the galaxy. Yadda yadda yadda, insert training, fighting, over 9000 etc and you have an RPG.

As for humans not being powerful, look at Tien: he was nearly as powerful as Imperfect Cell in the Cell Saga and assuming he trained for the Cell Games, he was nearly as powerful as a Cell Jr, which not even USSJ Vegeta or USSJ Trunks could defeat. It could be possible to have a guru on New Namek able to 'awaken' humans when they are powerful enough, not unlike in the Frieza Saga. Plus, since we agreed not to have SSJs, this shouldn't be necessary.

If need be, the GM or GMs (if we decide to have more than one) can implement 'power levels' onto people just to keep them in line and perhaps post saying when their power levels go up after fights or good posts or such. For example, inactive players won't have their PLs raised, and therefore they can't just go away for a month, come back and go 'My fighter was training make me over 9000 lol'.

Also, wb Rudy

[Mystic_clown]

Hmm, I like Rudy's idea for an alternate timeline. That means we can do all sorts of stuff, and not have to worry about tredding on canon. Like, what if the Red Ribbon wasn't defeated and became their own nation? Without the destruction of Namek, what became of the Namekians? Etc.

[Ultimate Charizard]

Well remember that Time travel has been handled in the Show.

Trunks realised that although he could go back he couldnt change what had already happened. When he went back to his own time everyone was still dead but he now had the power to stop the androids and at least improve things from there.

Its the multiple reality theory. Every option of every choice is played out in alternate realities, so although you may be able to go back and influence another choice when you return to your time your still in the reality that made the original choice etc. You can go back to the start of the journey, but you still have to follow the same path.

[Mystic_clown]

Whoops. Sorry Blade. Forgot about that. I meant I liked Rudy's idea for the alternate timeline.

[Asilynne]

Ok heres my idea that I had, not fully fleshed just something to develop upon lol

NoNamedPriest (6:37:40 PM): Anyway I had a cool idea of how the DBZ RPG could work, first off it would take place in the semi-distant future of DBZ (totally ignoring GT) where on earth there would be a good group of people that are related to those saiyans who had been living on earth
NoNamedPriest (6:39:08 PM): Also there might be a couple nameks related to piccolo and dende, and of course some humans but I had an idea of what if those saiyans that had been sent away from planet vegeta had spent however many hundreds of years seeking out others of their kind that were spread across the galaxy, and formed a new Saiyan Alliance
NoNamedPriest (6:40:46 PM): And this Alliance of Saiyans were led by this one saiyan that happened to come across earth and all the people with saiyan blood, and since some of those people would have the blood of the prince of the saiyans he would feel threatened by the earth saiyans and want to eradicate them so that he can keep his power, kinda like hes a bit mentally unstable
NoNamedPriest (6:43:13 PM): Because he would be worried that if the earth saiyans were publically known among the other "outcast saiyans" that people would want to embrace someone related to the original prince instead of the guy that was appointed the leader, kinda like the Steward of Gondor in Lord of the rings lol But I havent worked everything out in this idea yet, Just wanted to run it by you to see if its workable or f you had anything to add or alter

[Ultimate Charizard]

Thats not actually a bad idea......hmmmm

[Heald]

Basically, we need to decide on certain things:

1) Whether it is set in the future, is an alternate present or is set in the present or at least with some of the actual characters still alive. I believe the consensus at the moment is for either future or alternate present.

2) What the role the Saiyans will play. Will they be the antagonists, allies or just a playable race but the Saiyan nation itself does not appear. I think we've agreed that there are no Super Saiyans in the first rendition of these RPGs.

3) Power-levels. Should we nominate some GMs (2 or 3 will do) in order to decide when power levels go up i.e. active players and good posts will be rewarded.

4) Androids have come up. Are they playable, or will they be antagonists or non-existent? This is sort of connected to the timeline issue.

If people could reply on these four issues, that'd be fantastic, then we can create some sort of workaround. If opinions are too divided, I'll make a poll.

Anyway, my views:

1) I say future, and future enough so all of the original Z-Fighters have died.

2) Playable race, maybe restrict the number of Saiyan characters, but unsure if any NPC characters are Saiyans, but happy to go with the flow if we make an evil Saiyan and his crew the villains.

3) I say nominate 3 active people to hand out updates to power-levels, for example if everyone starts at 1000, then after a fight or a good post, one of the GMs go 'You earn +500' or something.

4) Not opposed to androids, but maybe only one or two as playable characters and none for the antagonists if we choose other people to be antagonists.

[Blademaster]

I'm still gunning for my original idea.


1. My vote is for alternate future. An alternate future where a Saiyan homeworld still exists and it maintains some focus rather than Earth always being the centerpoint.

Or maybe an entirely new planet, or something bigger than a planet. Maybe an entire Solar System caught in the midst of a war, with different planets and their races joining the fight.

2. Saiyans should be a playable race and an abundant one at that. And yes, Super Saiyans would be allowed, as would Super Saiyan 2's, and limited SS3's.

3. GM's deciding YOUR character's power? Just being a frequent poster makes your character Super Gogeta? I don't think so. Pick your own power level (one each for normal, super, super 2, etc.) and let the RPG maker decide if it's fitting or not. Remember, higher power levels don't make fighters stronger than their opponents. Don't believe me? Frieza was stronger than Goku, and Goku still beat him.

4. Androids should be allowed right alongside Saiyans, Humans, Namekians, and whatever other primary races are out there. And yes, Super Androids would be possible.


I don't want a total free-for-all of Super (blank) 3's running around, but the set-up we have now is too stifling for me to get behind.