How do owners and moderators work? Don't moderators have power over the owners? I mean, that's what you guy's jobs are pretty much, monitoring the place. Use your powers for better use. Firing Frank and Kyle when no one else will is a fine start.
It doesn't work that way. We have the power to remove unecessary posts due to spam and whatnot but we can't automatically just fire someone. If we are not involved in that particular business, we can't do squat about it. Only the workers/owner(s) there can make those decisions. I doubt the owner would like it if we just fired one of their workers because they were inactive or didn't do a good job. I can't do anything about firing Kyle because I never ran GT or worked there, the same with Frank and where he works (although he did work at PA and I fired him from that because he didn't do anything). Amy works at GT but she can't fire him because a whole group runs the place and they need to figure it out themselves

As for the whole Jay issue, it's only our opinions. We can't convince each other otherwise and I really don't want to anyway. I'm never going to say that Jay is/was the heart of AC/CC and PCG because many people contributed to making it what it is today and considering how big each forum is, one person can't really shape it into a utopia. Anyway, I'll just leave it at that and focus on the AC/CC issues

Edit: By the way, I never forced him to leave. I was one of the ones who persuaded Suzie to remod him when he was demodded the first time. And I know he has never formally apologized to me so don't mash me in with one whole group