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Rambunctious: Supernatural powers is a very broad category indeed, and I do believe in them as does the Bible say they are real. When Moses turned his staff into a snake, Pharoah's magicians were also able to do so, however, Moses's snake devoured the magicians'.
They are real as I know yet the Bible says they are not to be used or practiced. Why when so many people in its history have used these powers? To prove something of greater good while they practice them and God gives them a pardon into heaven? The others who do it because they believe in it are blocked out from heaven because of that, 'hey sorry, you did wrong. Bye.' Now we could say that God did the snake thing but then we would have to agree that God parted the Red Sea, not Moses.

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So Joan of Arc may not have been practicing witchcraft? Oh and yes, modern politics are the most honorable thing to date...
She could of, that's the thing. We don't know. It was viewed as witchcraft by the people and maybe the minister thought she was talking to Satan instead but because of what was written in the Bible, she was doing "witchcraft" and had to be condemned for it.

I know, aren't they? Let's see how many more witches are burned in the future!

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Them continuing to resist change after the initial reaction to it is their fault. Also, instinct can be overcome.
That's when psychologists come in handy though they cost a lot. The question would be is what kind of change? Several changes will be applauded if the person does not change and some, if they do change they will be applauded. A religious change in which the group of people fight will most likely think they are being applauded by their Gods while if a killer changes, then they will be applauded on changing.

Instinct cannot be overcome as it always comes back. No matter how far you suppress instinct, it will always come back, to help or render. That's why we have reflexes as they are instinct. We cannot stop reflexes, they just happen unless someone has a slow mind but that's another story.

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Murder is wrong, yes, but we will continue to have it no matter what you do. On the case of overpopulation, even murder doesn't do much to keep that in check.
Because society and others breed them. The wrongs of others get magnified in a person's mind and can lead them for punishment or payback. Since sometimes no one stops the obvious signs, we have murder. If we were to have a world without murder, it would be a dull, dull, world indeed.

Yep, but we can always hope now can't we?

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That's my point. Animals don't understand right and wrong because they were not designed to. Animal intelligence only goes to a certain level, one that still remains below that of human intellect.
Human intelligence only goes to a certain level when understanding animals, like animal intelligence only goes to a certain level when understanding humans. Fact is is that we don't know the capacity of the animal mind. But we've gone over that they do know right or wrong because of:

1. Knowing right or wrong must be taught to something or learned by something
2. Understanding right and wrong is not doing the wrong thing again and continuing to do the right thing

Because we learn right and wrong, everyone knows it. We get congratulated or rewarded for doing the right thing and are hurt/scolded/yelled at when we do the wrong thing.

The thing I think you're trying to say is that animals don't understand human right and wrong. Well, we don't understand animal right and wrong. I think we're even on that.

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Actually, the mantids that eat their mates are not the slow ones (all females are slow when ready to lay eggs), but the ones who need the nutrition for the eggs and whos mates are not fast enough. If people start doing that, then we've got quite a problem.
The mates aren't fast enough to get away, though the thing I wrote was supposed to say the same thing. It's like spiders, if you're not fast enough then yum!

But we don't so let's not go there.

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Knowing the problem does help, but homosexuals know they're homosexuals, and from their they need to decide if they're going to change. I myself am absent minded. I don't know how many times I have forgotten my library books for months at a time (I had a some thirty five dollar fine not too long ago and am sitting on a fifteen dollar one right now).
Homosexuality is a broad problem in your opinion. There can be several things appointed to it being there in the first place. We can "cure" it without finding the problem but the problem will come back and worse than ever. That's avoiding a whole chunk of reason right there.

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The people in Iraq rebel not because they don't accept change (that's only part of the reason), but also because the people doing the change are the ones who just beat them back in a war and are forcing it upon them (I'm neutral on this argument). About the assassins, hey, what can I say? Some people have very flexible morals.
Exactly what happens with all countries we try to change. We waged war when it's not official war and then force change on them, like beating a person down and rebuilding faulty. Forcing changes on another is not as brutal but can mentally hurt a person.

Assassins we need, to kill people we don't like and to make it look like a terrorist attack.

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Thing is though, forcing change upon a person's general way of life is much different than saying one particular thing they are doing is wrong and why it is wrong.
Saying one thing is wrong changes the person in more than that way as well. Saying homosexuality is wrong means the person has to change their lifestyle to that of a heterosexual one.

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I imagine they loosely named the creatures to identify them (thing with hump on its back). But this is up for speculation.
Neutral then. Let's move on.