2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Plantae]

I can merely look at the evidence and see it was clear cut, you had a embassy under attack, unknown amount of Americans inside that could be dead or dying. You had Jets that could easily be scrambled and there within a hour or less, such a tactic has been used in the past to disperse crowds. And if the crowds did not disperse the jets could have fired upon them. The President's top priority is to protect American lives, he failed in that.

I understand why you'd make this argument. And you're right, that is a president's duty. But I can also imagine a number of ways that others would make different conclusions based on the same evidence. Personally, I don't think there's anything exceptional about American lives, as opposed to the lives of other human beings.

OK, quench those flames... again.

Roy, the use of the word "retard" as an insult was uncalled for. The only reason you're not getting an infraction is because it was aimed at a politician and not a TPM member.

Plantae, however, gets an infraction for calling Roy a bigot. If someone does something wrong, you don't fix it by insulting him.

Thank you, Lady Vulpix. I'm sorry for making your job difficult. And I don't envy the role you're forced to play here.

But I also know that you're a human being. So I'll make it clear that I don't apologize for my comment. In fact, I think if someone does something wrong, then sometimes, the only correct response is to get angry about it. I don't think it's fair to insult anyone without reason. But I will call a spade a spade.