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    Default Re: YES (Rhode Island to legalize gay marriage)

    Quote Originally Posted by Heald View Post
    But I'm not surprised it went over your head, there were plenty of people who didn't understand what Swift was trying to do either.
    Actually, I thought Swift was a pretty sorry excuse for a satire too. (And this is an English major you're talking to.)

    I mean, seriously, when you look at Gulliver's Travels, the Houyhnhnms were NOT the utopian society that Gulliver seems to think they are in the book. I mean, think about it for a minute. Swift's portrayal of this so-called utopian society is actually pretty bleak and unpleasant if you look closely; individuals do only what they need to survive, with strict and dull diets, engage in sex only so far as is necessary to preserve the species, appear to exhibit zero attachment to their own children (any extras are given to smaller or infertile families without a thought), lack of empathy towards other creatures (see their proposals to exterminate Yahoos and rejection of Gulliver for his resemblance to them; sounds like outright bigotry to me) and lack of any language besides what is required to exchange information (meaning while while there are no lies there is also no creativity or imagination). It can essentially be seen a passionless and cold existence so we should not take this the book at face value and assume Swift actually believes the stuff he is writing here.

    And RSW, you're onyl proving our point. It should be up to the woman. Outlawing abortion will not solve anything.

    People claim that monsters like Kermit Gosnell would have been kept in check if abortion had been outlawed. If anything, he is a frightening example of what would happen MUCH more often if it WAS outlawed, and unprofessional quacks like him did the proceedure illegally to women who wanted it done.
    Last edited by Dark Sage; 15th May 2013 at 06:02 AM.

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