Originally posted by Cyrus
my apologizes, I thought that was the fly I had ordered. I disagree with the introduction of slipping on ice in the 13th round. Its not been a component that has had any effect on this match, and to introduce it as this point is inappropriate. I would have mentioned this last night if I hadn't been asleep on my feet.
Most pf the match the ice was melted, and concrete is not very slippery the last time I checked. This is also one of the few times speed has been taken into account.
And where does the requirment to state that the move should be profomed arially come from? Do you require the same statement from a pidgey? Both pokemon are flying types, which would cause me to assume the attacks would be preformed to there best advantage. Do both pokemon have functioning legs? Yes, but by preforming the move from the air, they avoid diffeculties with the terrain and melee attacks. If Ice was a hazard, I hold that sense it has NOT been considered a hazard for the length of the match that it is not, then why would Dracon risk life, limb, and the match by attacking on foot when he has wings. Things evolve wings for a reason, easier movement, advantage in the hunt, and avoiding dangerous terrain are some common reasons, what is the point of having wings at risking hazards of the terrain when the move could have preformed just as easily, if not easier, from the air? To preform Extreme speed to the best effect, I would assume it would be preformed as an arial move, Dragonite, and most pokemon with the ability to fly, move at a greater speed in the air than on the ground.
The difference between pidgey and dragonite has much more functional legs than pidgey. They are also aquatic creatures, if you check several game boy pokedex entries as well as the anime. This shows that Dragonites spend lots of times both flying and swimming underwater, whereas pidgey spends most its time flying. Dragonite uses its legs a LOT mroe than a pidgey, therefore it is feasbile for dragonite to use a move with is legs rather than wings. As I said before, most of the match the Ice was melted, meaning that ice WASN'T a hazard until recently. I did however, have Blackflame slip and hurt himself once or twice when he was fighting. Sorry if you skipped that part, but I did. Also, Dragonite is weak right now. He has been beaten up quite a bit, and this can lead to one of two things. He is eiether more careful for the sake of self-preservation, or he is "out of it" and not thinking clearly. In the case, having just woke up from a trace (that didn't go so well), I assumed he wouldn't be thinking clearly.
Also, please explain the variation in damage from Extreme Speed, sense you don't maintain the effects of agility as most refs do, what caused the gross variation in damage (25% the first hit, 10-11 the second hit). As you have refed many of my battles, I have noted that agilities' effect did not alter damage by a large margin, no more than 5%-10%, I had intially assumed the difference in damage was do to size, that you applied the logic from body slam to the move, but this doesn't hold based on the last round. I can see no logic in the large variation in damage.
I already told you this, I have agility wear of a lot faster. I assume when a pokemon stops to do something like toxic or soemthing, it wears off. Correct, I am not like other refs, we are all not pre-programmed robots. We have different takes on everything. Some refs don;t have fatigue levels, others have toxic really strong, others have it really weak. And there's a ton of ways of handling rest. This variety is
encouraged by the ASB, and therefore I stick with my handling of Agility (another way I do it different is the fatiguie doesn't go up as fast when using it). I post the exact state of each pokemon at the bottom of each round. If Dracon had his enhanced speed, I would have listed there. I did not, and I wouldn't make someone second-guess info like that. THAT is why extremepseed did lower damage and that DOES makes plenty of sense, provided you ignore teh fact that I kill off agility's bonus faster than most. Since you have been reffed by me a lot, why did you think I'd handle agility any more different this time? The rest is simple, Body Slam has a large pokemon fall ON him, whereas ExtremeSpeed is a quicker beating. There is your logic.
Cyrus VS AJ Ref: Anti-R*cketship
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