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Abaremax don't shove religion down someone's throat. Tis people like you that make Christians look like morons.
Random Mark Twain Saying
"Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were a member of Congress. Ah, but I repeat myself."
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That's a nice sentiment...Abaremax don't shove religion down someone's throat. Tis people like you that make Christians look like morons.Care to elaborate? I'm not pushing anything down peoples throats. Is it scaring you perhaps that God is calling me to do this? Hmm? Let me know when I'm getting warmer...
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When you say "I hope you make the right choice before it is to late" you are saying that they are currently on the wrong path and therefore saying that their way is wrong while yours is right. THAT is shoving religion down someone's throat my friend. Keep your belief's to yourself.
Random Mark Twain Saying
"Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were a member of Congress. Ah, but I repeat myself."
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It's gonna be really funny if you're:Originally Posted by AbareMax
That's a nice sentiment...
Wrong.
Right, but punished for being a dickhead to all the athiests.
If you are right, I'm gonna laugh if the latter is true.
Saying someones gonna get their homeland back isn't a huge deal. Saying fighting is gonna continue IS NOT A HUGE DEAL.Israel did get there homeland back *cough* 1949 *cough*, but fighting hasn't stopped. WOW! There's two right there!Yes. How did you disprove me? You're helping me. People getting their country back, people still killing one another, and humans still being royal asses to each other isn't exactly "Bible only". I predict that, for the next 30 years, the 23rd of March will fall after the 22nd and before the 24th. If I am right, in 30 years it'll prove I'm a prophet.You need to watch the news more often and check your history. Hmm...men have been doing as the please. Have they not? Men being mankind, respectively. Examples being: Robbing, raping, drink incessently, drug dealing, people marrying other people of the same-sex. Need I say more, sir?
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How, could I be punished? There's no punishment for the saved except judgement. Then they get to live with Jesus forever. Hmm...This stuff has been prophesized for centuries....
Crazy: You can join in the bashing on me, if it'd make you feel better. We're here to discuss not argue and bash other people aren't we? Keeping my beliefs to myself is something I cannot do. How can I express then, if you are blatently ordering me not to?
TMM: Saying someone gets their homeland back is a big deal. Especially for the Jews. They were taken out of their land forcefully, and were mistreated for centuries. Haven't you a heart, TMM? They got their land back. Their country, everything sacred to them. Fighting a senseless bloodshed will continue, mostly anyone can say that by themselves. But it's a big deal when God tells them to prophesize that. The Bible states that the fighting in Israel, Babylon, and the surrounding areas will never cease until Christ comes to establish his millenial reign on earth. My how exciting!
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NEWSFLASH from TPM's Anchorman:
we don't care. the fighting will still go on, regardless.
stop quoting the ****ing bible. we would like to see some common sense, not some bible some hobos wrote.
i can suggest a read for you: my sig.
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
-House
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Oh, strat. It seems as though you wish to join the bashing to? Before you bash God, and Jesus and of course His Kingdom, I suggest you read the Bible. Because it makes you look like an idiot, if you don't know what you are talking about....
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Actually, from my view point, it would appear that AbareMax is not shoving anything down anyone's throat.
He's merely evangelizing. That's not judging that's actually an expression of caring. He cares about you all (or at least your souls) enough to actually tell them. Please, AbareMax, give the gospel.
AbareMax, ignore the Muffin Man. Just skipping over his posts is much less stressful. (and after spending an hour and a half countering Animelee, DarkTemplarZ, and Aglandiir it's nice to relieve a bit of stress)
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apparently you don't get it. jesus died. christianity does not believe in reincarnation. if jesus can't get reincarnated, how can he establish what you call "millenial reign" on earth without a body? :wtf:
EDIT: oh right, rule from heaven. how does he get his rules down? prophets? nope. nobody listens because all those prophets are hobos living on 5th Street or High Street.
refer to my sig again.
i'm not bashing. i'm stating a case.
why read the bible when you know it's not very accurate? waste of time.
you do something worthwhile. like being buddhist. like me. what does it take in this world to understand christianity isn't really the "almighty" or "omgitsthebestifyouhateitillhavetorapeyouuptheass" ?
buddhism > this thread.
i leave, you, little grasshopper, with this note:
Shut Up Fool!
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
-House
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That's got to be the biggest crock of bullshit I've ever seen written by anyone at TPM. How can you say that? Oh, sure, he's not shoving religion down our throats now is he? He's just enlightening us because he cares too much to watch our souls be condemned because we're Atheists. Right? Go right out and say it.
Infact, I care about you christians so much that I devote my life to enlightening you to the side of Atheism, because we all know there is no God, we all know you'll be dissapointed when you die and you find yourself just rotting six feet under-- so we have devised a tried and trusted true method to help guide you fallen christians to the right side, the Atheist way.
Oh, by the way, nobody can take offense to the preceding paragraph because I wasn't shoving Atheism down anybody's throat, I was just evangelizing. I was merely expressing my care, merely just showing you that my way is right and everything you live and believe is wrong, and until you accept this, I will continue to enlighten you, until you see the light. Hold strong, my bretheren, for I hope with my help, I can guide you to the real side of the world, the Atheist way.
A-****ing-dieu,
Zak Hunter
EDIT: I don't want to see this post deleted, either. If this post is deleted-- delete everything AbareMax has posted in this entire thread. I will not stand for a double standard, so this is allowed if AbareMax can 'evangelize.'
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reincarnation: rebirth in new bodies or forms of life; especially : a rebirth of a soul in a new human body
Jesus was only once incarnated in a human body. And reincarnation implies one soul leaving one body and going to another. Jesus never did that. When he resurrected it was into the same body that died.
And I'd love to know just how you 'know it's not accurate'
Remove 'atheist'. Replace it with 'sinner'. Then you've got it right. Now, I'd like to take this time to clear up a misconception that will most certainly be stated.
AbareMax and I are sinners. The difference between us and you (assuming AbareMax is a true Christian, which I have no reason to doubt) is that we have accepted Christ's atonement for our sins. So our sins are payed for. Basically they've been thrown out, like in a courtroom. That's what allows us to enter heaven. Accept Christ and you can enter heaven when you die as well.
Infact, I care about you christians so much that I devote my life to enlightening you to the side of Atheism, because we all know there is no God, we all know you'll be dissapointed when you die and you find yourself just rotting six feet under-- so we have devised a tried and trusted true method to help guide you fallen christians to the right side, the Atheist way.I wasn't about to say you were shoving it down our throats. I accept that you saying that (eventhough you're not serious) is no different than the way in which AbareMax and I proclaim Christ.Oh, by the way, nobody can take offense to the preceding paragraph because I wasn't shoving Atheism down anybody's throat, I was just evangelizing. I was merely expressing my care, merely just showing you that my way is right and everything you live and believe is wrong, and until you accept this, I will continue to enlighten you, until you see the light. Hold strong, my bretheren, for I hope with my help, I can guide you to the real side of the world, the Atheist way.
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...Are you even listening? Getting their homeland back being in the bible is no huge deal because alot of the "Prophecies" you're talking about are pretty much going to happen wether it's true or not.How, could I be punished? There's no punishment for the saved except judgement. Then they get to live with Jesus forever. Hmm...This stuff has been prophesized for centuries....
Crazy: You can join in the bashing on me, if it'd make you feel better
TMM: Saying someone gets their homeland back is a big deal. Especially for the Jews. They were taken out of their land forcefully, and were mistreated for centuries. Haven't you a heart, TMM? They got their land back. Their country, everything sacred to them. Fighting a senseless bloodshed will continue, mostly anyone can say that by themselves. But it's a big deal when God tells them to prophesize that. The Bible states that the fighting in Israel, Babylon, and the surrounding areas will never cease until Christ comes to establish his millenial reign on earth. My how exciting!
And Checkmate - Go on. Ignore my posts. It just proves you're afraid I'll cut each and every one of your facts right down.
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That's the most I've laughed in several hours Muffin Man. That's HILARIOUS!!! And I seriously am laughing out loud.
If you wanted to cut down each and every one of my posts you still can. Nothing's stopping you from attacking my evidence. I just doubt you will because your ignorant ranting seems to be more pleasing to you than actual debate. Too each his own.
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obviously.
reincarnation being the living world. not heaven/hell/whatever you want to call it. obviously you missed my point. abaremax said "jesus will rule", and if you can't get reincarnated into the living world, how can you rule? that was my question.Jesus was only once incarnated in a human body. And reincarnation implies one soul leaving one body and going to another. Jesus never did that. When he resurrected it was into the same body that died.
and i'd love to know just how you 'know it's accurate'.And I'd love to know just how you 'know it's not accurate'
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
-House
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You know what else is hilarious? Your feeble attempt at an insultYou could have at least done me the honor of trying to disprove me, rather than come off as a complete ass. That's my job.
No, I won't cut your evidence down because I know you'll just shoot back with your evidence proving the evidence you're trying to prove. I.e "The Bible says gays are evil" "Well why does it say that?" "because the Bible said so."If you wanted to cut down each and every one of my posts you still can. Nothing's stopping you from attacking my evidence. I just doubt you will because your ignorant ranting seems to be more pleasing to you than actual debate. Too each his own.
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Oh dear, AbareMax hasn't found a logical counter to my post of extreme awesomeness, try arguing with pure logic instead of "lets all just believe" for once.
Evangelist's is an anagram for Evil's Agents!!
Anyway, i love your judging people when the bible says "Judge not lest ye be judged" and even better is your saying "read the bible" when you've read it an claim to believe in it but plainly do not obey it.
Also, jews were only mistreated for the following reasons, They claimed everyone else was going to hell, They always think they're better due to the "gods chosen people" thing and whats more, they were the ones who started fighting with people who they considered Heathen 99% of the time, so OF COURSE THEY GOT MISTREATED, let me show this in an example, say you went to a trailer park and started verbally bashing the poor, of course your going to get beaten up, moron.
So all i can say is.. WHAT CHU GUNNA DO WHEN ATHEISM RUNS WILD ON YOU?
xD
One more round; one more low.
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Strat, the Bible never actually says that 'reincarnation is heresy' It merely has differing views on the afterlife which is why Christians do not believe reincarnaion in the same way Buddhists do. (I think they do but forgive me if I am mistaken since I know practically nothing about Buddhism)
However, I'm not quite sure that Jesus would have to change forms coming from heaven to earth. Maybe he will, but if so it's not a direct contradiction.
I find the Bible to be accurate just because it is historically cooberated by none-biblical sources and people seem to have a remarkable amount of trouble proving that it's flawed.
Muffin Man, I was not trying to insult you. I was stating that I was laughing at your statement that I was afraid of you.
I never said gays were evil. I said they were sinners. I think I might return to ignoring your posts as Raven suggests.
Leon IH, AbareMax is not judging people. He's merely telling you all of God's judgement.
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Correction, abare has stated he dissaproves of our choice of lifestyle "I hope you make the right choice before it is too late" therefore, he has judged that we have made the wrong choice.. I don't really mind too much but if your going to preach, do it properly.
One more round; one more low.
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buddhism is more like, "if you have bad karma, you get reincarnated into a smaller being, but if you have awesome karma, you go to nirvana, the ultimate place", of course, in more philosophical words.
considering reincarnation as only for the living world (what you posted earlier is 'resurrection', not 'reincarnation'. watch that), the point i was trying to make was: how would jesus assume ruling the world for a 'millenia' if he couldn't get reincarnated? of course, you could consider resurrection, but i'm more concerned about reincarnation, because that's what i referred to first. i would consider debating ressurection, but not at this moment.However, I'm not quite sure that Jesus would have to change forms coming from heaven to earth. Maybe he will, but if so it's not a direct contradiction.
of course, there are ways you can prove parts of the bible true. to disprove something like that, you disprove the non-biblical sources. once that happens, you doubt the accuracy of the biblical sources, because if they were coincidal (sp?), they would both be wrong. catch my drift? i'm just saying that if the non-biblical references are incorrect, then the bible is inaccurate. i'm not saying the sources are inaccurate, i'm just saying if they were, the bible would be inaccurate.I find the Bible to be accurate just because it is historically cooberated by none-biblical sources and people seem to have a remarkable amount of trouble proving that it's flawed.
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
-House
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Damn! What happened here? I'm a Christian(shields self from automatic blows) but the only two other Christian's in here sound like fundamentalist wackos. I'm all for telling people about Christ. I'm all for telling people about what's in store. But when people are so obviously against being "reborn", then why even try? I don't blame all of the people bashing the Christians. You guys are nuts. Where are all the smart, reasonable, logical Christians? Oh, that's right...off the internet, actually helping people.
I don't blame either side. My Father is an agnostic and I can see where he's coming from. I'm a protestant and I can stand firm in my beliefs and would happily debate points about the bible, if I was well educated in that region, but I'm not. So, please, don't flame me. You won't get me to flame or retaliate because, frankly, there's no point. We're tlking about personal beliefs, things that you decide for yourself. If you haven't made the decision, talking to random weirdoes on the internet isn't going to help. And neither is being that random weirdo trying to "save" people. Try to save the people that are actually calling for help. Not people on the internet.
(gets prepared to be flamed by both sides of the argument)
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Zup, I'm not going to flame you but merely defend my cause. My main goal is to prove that Christians are not stupid.
You may think I've been counterproductive. If so, I'd appreciate constructive criticism. And you're calling me a fundamentalist wacko. Please illuminate for me the differences between your and my Christians beliefs.
(this entire post is ment to be read at face value and is not meant to be sarcastic or demeaning)
In response to Strat's entire post... ok.
As I said if Jesus was reincarnated I do not think that would directly contradict the Bible. The sources I refer to are generally accepted. (at least for the purposes I use them for) And I merely thought you were calling the resurrection reincarnation. You weren't. My mistake.
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Most Christian's aren't stupid, intellectually or common sense wise. I live near a Christian home that provides a summer camp for the mentally handicapped. The parents are very smart and have plenty of common sense and their children have graduated from a prestigious private high school with honors. The mere fact that you're defending this "cause" is redundant. Let other Christians provide the stereotypes or you risk becoming one yourself. If one's being incredibly dumb, the step in, correct them, apologize for their behavior and move on. It's not worth risking your beliefs, a nights sleep or getting turned into the stereotype you so desperately defend against.
And I call anyone who continues to try and persuade people to Christ over the internet, flames sent so much that the board is nothing more than a pile of ash a fundamentalist wacko. No offense to those true fundamentalist wackos.
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The thing is that many people think that belief in Christianity is ridiculous. I am defending against that. Note that I've never attempted to lead someone to Christ over these forums, but I have encouraged others that did it. Maybe God impressed upon them that it would make a difference. If so, who am I to fight them.
I am mainly trying to defend Christianity in saying that it is not a ludicrous belief. And while you may know intelligent Christians others do not have those same perceptions.
That is why I'm here. I can't stand people ignorantly walking all over the Bible.
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So what if so many people think the bible is ridiculous? Let a friend of theirs or a peer help them come to another conclusion. It's not your place to "defend Christianity" or to prevent people from "walking all over the bible". There are probably people out there that worship books like Harry Potter. You can't stop them and they can't make you. Believe in what you believe, help people when they need it, convert only when people are truly asking for it. There is no need to defend something that is subscribed to by an incredible amount of people in the world. It's even more ludicrous to believe that this little mesage board dedicated to a videogame that's passed it's fad time (and now passed into the hardcore) has an inkling that it could actually make a difference in the entire scheme of things.
Chill, bro. Judgements people make about things in this world will fluctuate. Let them believe what they want. It's their life, their soul. If they believe that there is no soul, then good for them. At least they believe in something. Be happy that you believe in Christ and don't feel the need to defend it. There's always someone in this world ready to ridicule, to mock and to plain flame the hell out of our religion in general. Let them. It's their choice and they have, as the bible puts it, "hardened hearts". Let them be. They may soften eventually, but now's not the time. Now's not the time.
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I'd make a long reply to everything, but I'd rather go to sleep, so this will be short.
The "proof" you keep citing is not proof. Calling it proof will not make it such.
The Bible cannot be used as proof of the Bible.
The only actual outside source I've so far seen cited by anybody in this thread is the Dead Sea Scrolls. There was also that talk about the Jewish compilations and all that, but those were produced well after the fact and very well might have been a direct response to Christianity; regardless, they are still not the objective sources that a reasonable person might take as solid proof. All other sources have either been the Bible itself or "expert" analysis of the Bible.
Perhaps I'm not being clear: I'm talking about primary sources, not secondary. Show me something that has absolutely nothing to do with the Bible, but was created at roughly the same time, which talks about Jesus performing miracles. Show me something written by someone with no interest in the events, before, after, or at the time. Something totally objective.
Yes, my standards of proof are quite high in this case. But you're asking me to believe something that is highly unbelievable and improbable; asking for anything less than absolute proof of such a thing would be foolish.
Besides, I assume that most Christians have very high standards of proof with regards to Atheism. If I were to try to convince you of my beliefs (which I'm not), then I would need to absolutely disprove all of the wild claims the Bible makes, something which I probably could never do.
I think the fact that 2,000 years have passed between then and now is a serious impediment to either side making any headway. The people are all dead, most of the records have turned to dust, the stories have been warped through years of telling and retelling. The chances of either side proving anything about one of the few relics to survive from that time, the Bible, are quite small indeed.
One thing is quite clear, though: where you see solid truth, I see but one possible theory out of many. You called all of my "maybe"s about the people and the Apostles and everything "illogical," among other things. They obviously don't seem illogical at all to me. You may be willing to give these people the benefit of the doubt, but I am not. If it's possible that the Bible was written by a bunch of kooks and it caught on via a combination of excellent marketing and perfect environmental conditions, which it is, then I see that as a fine reason not to believe in the Bible. I'm not willing to make the leap of faith, to assume that everybody really was as they seem in the Bible. You obviously disagree.
Remember, people aren't always logical. It's so easy to get huge numbers of people to rally behind a cause that it happens at least once every hundred years or less, and the cause doesn't have to make much sense. It only needs to offer people a reward for following it.
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Sorry, nope.I have Tara (Pancake) to give face-to-face testimony on that, since the two of us met last month.
As for previous reponses:
1. Female evangelists were written out of the New Testament.
2. The Malachi tribe was usurped by the Judah tribe by Saul in order to stop the rise of women.
3. Modern Catholicism/Christianity is still outdated and sexist. Male priests can marry but nuns can't?! Get bent!
4. All religions are a stupid attempt by foolish mortals trying to grapple with their fear of the unknown and trying to answer it with something to rationalise their existence, even if they know it's false. There is no true or correct religion. If there was, 90% of the world would go to Hell because they believe in the wrong God.
5. Humanity is incestuous. In order to get enough people to produce the human race, Eve would have had to have slept with her sons once Adam lost his fertility.
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sure, i'm not christian, but unless adam got an std, eve would have become infertile FIRST. or adam mighta gotten his shlong cut off/masturbated too much. females lose fertility around 40-50 years old. unless i'm deranged, males don't ever lose fertility (assuming there is no intervention, like castrating, infertility, stds). the thing that bars them from sex in like their 70's is well....i'm not going there.
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
-House
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If that is your goal Checkmate you are not doing a very good job of it. I would like to say that I am a Christian. I just don't like the idea of telling people that they are wrong in what they believe in. I am not saying this to you really I am talking to Abaremax. Please people stay on topic and actually attempt to PROVE that the bible is historiclly accurate. I mean this is what
the topic is about.
Random Mark Twain Saying
"Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were a member of Congress. Ah, but I repeat myself."
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Crazy: You're a Christian eh? I thought you weren't, because instead of standing up for Jesus, and the Christian beliefs, you've been going against it.... I'm not telling them that they are wrong in their beliefs, nor am I telling them what to believe in. I see a person like yourself can't have an open mind...If that is your goal Checkmate you are not doing a very good job of it. I would like to say that I am a Christian. I just don't like the idea of telling people that they are wrong in what they believe in. I am not saying this to you really I am talking to Abaremax. Please people stay on topic and actually attempt to PROVE that the bible is historiclly accurate. I mean this is what
the topic is about.
TMM: The Jewish people are God's chosen people. He created them as well as us. It's not saying that they are better than us, or we are better than them. They have just been chosen to do God's will. Kind of what Checkmate and I are doing. Keep bashing us if it will make you feel better.
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NEWSFLASH on the 4:00 news:
YOU AREN'T JEWISH.
ONE VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: SHUT UP FOOL!
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
-House
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Aglandiir, the Talmud is even more than what you're asking for. Instead of being objective it is subjective AGAINST Christianity, but it still corroborates Jesus' miracles. And forget about the time lapse because that also does not hurt my case. In fact, as I've stated before, the fact that the Jews could not deny Jesus' miracles, [I]even after 150 years[I] only shows how well known it was that Jesus performed miracles.
In response to Last Exile, to my knowledge the first end times prophecy was given by woman, (Hannah in 1st Samuel chapter 2) Deborah was a female judge. The first people to spread the news of Christ's resurrection were two females.
This is not to say that women and men are treated the same in the Bible. I know full well that is not the truth. If you call, treating men and women differently sexism than I would say the Bible is sexist. I would also say that, by the above definition, any person who calls a man a man or a woman a woman is also sexist for not calling them the same thing. That is, after all, treating them differently.
Men and women are different. If they were not, they would not be called men and women. In my opinion it is not sexist (I do not agree with the above definition of sexism) to give men and women different roles. After all, they are different. Biblically speaking, the Bible does say that in the church, men should lead. It even goes so far as to say that a woman shall not usurp authority over a man in the church. Yes, it says that. I'm not denying it.
Speaking generally, men tend to represent (in my observation) the extremes of spectrums. The majority of world leaders are men. Almost all serial killers are men. Most of the saints recognized by the catholic church are men.
I agree with you by saying the majority of people will go to hell. (while I think 90% is far too liberal an estimate)
And as far as number five goes, Eve may or may not have slept with her sons. She probably would have had enough fertile years to just have kids with Adam. People lived a lot longer back then. (Adam lived to be 930) Now Adam's and Eve's children would have certainly slept with each other. (This was millenia before God's prohibition on incest) So what's your point with the Eve thing?
Crazy, I'd rather tell people that they're wrong instead of know that I'm letting them go to hell.
How am I making Christians look stupid?
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But I am, and I advise you stop spamming.NEWSFLASH on the 4:00 news:
YOU AREN'T JEWISH.
ONE VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT: SHUT UP FOOL!
However, Abare, you aren't being any better yourself by trying to shove religion down people's throats. I think you should understand that there is a difference between that and defending yourself. Did you not see what I had warned Sorovis about earlier in this topic?
~Zak
In 20 years, YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook will merge together into one super big time-wasting site called YouTwitFace.
We're not going to Guam... are we?
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i know you're jewish, and i wholly respect that. i was just reminding AbareMax [that he's not Jewish], because he said earlier that the Jewish do "God's Will", and just a comma later, says he and Checkmate are doing exactly that. And if doing "God's Will" is what Jewish people do, and AbareMax and apparently Checkmate are doing that, doesn't that strike as stupidity? i was just reminding AbareMax that he's not Jewish. Jewish people are awesome, though. one of my friends is Jewish, and he's hilarious and he is an awesome keyboarder on top of that.
i didn't mean to offend anyone by that, i was talking more directly to AbareMax, not the general public.
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
-House
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Strat, anchormen talk. Is this to say that me claiming that I am able to talk is stupid? Think about that one.
And as I recall, Zak, you warned Sorovis about saying something to the degree of "No wonder you're an atheist". Not much to do with shoving something or another down your throat.
And I still don't understand how the above quote is an insult. I mean if I were to present people with firm evidence supporting my Christianity, someone might just say "Oh, no wonder you're a Christian."
Sorovis perceived that Skullfire did not read the evidence he posted, and concluded that if Skullfire treats evidence of Christianity that way, that would be a good way to explain why he was an atheist. It's a statement of perception.
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Strat, that's not my point, I have no reason to take offense to that post, and I didn't. I was just pointing out that it was spammy in general and that is all. I'm not really religious myself, I'm actually agnostic belief-wise, but Jewish culture-wise. While I am paying attention to this debate, I'm not getting involved in this arguement. Unless I see something worth warning or commenting on, like earlier with Sorovis and Skullfire, as it is part of my job, I was just commenting on how that post was spammy. The fact that I am Jewish is irrelevant, despite me pointing out that I am (I just thought I might as well).
Actually, it was more relevant to what I said to AbareMax, but thats it.
EDIT: Checkmate - I had started this post before yours appeared, is "the above quote" referring to Strat's or to Sorovis's? If strat's, then I just explained above, it isn't. If you mean Sorovis's that you just pointed out... that's another matter.
~Zak
In 20 years, YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook will merge together into one super big time-wasting site called YouTwitFace.
We're not going to Guam... are we?
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realize that i was talking to AbareMax, not you. from my view, AbareMax pulled you in for the hell of it, for the sake of not going down alone. i respect christianity, but as with everything, there are certain things that can be debated. which is why this thread exists. thankfully, you [attempt] to put logic in your arguments. unlike AbareMax.
well, being anchorman, i couldn't have done much else besides newflash. =| i do hope it did get the message across. that was all i wanted it to do. anchorman style.
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
-House
Historical Accuracy of the Bible
Strat and Zak: You both crack me up! How can you guys share your beliefs and Checkmate and I can't? That's too funny. You both claim I'm shoving this down people's throats... I don't know how many times I'll have to say it... I'm simply voicing my beliefs. If you condemn me for it, then condemn just about everybody else who posted here. Remember the lies to tell, before you tell them...
Historical Accuracy of the Bible
let me summarize for you:
Checkmate: logic + non-biblical sources
You: "because the bible said so"
'nuff said.
“I always say if you’re going to get shot, do it in a hospital.”
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Historical Accuracy of the Bible
Right... You never told me why you said that I 'shove Christianity down peoples throats'. I'd love to hear the reason, or perhaps you didn't have one...
Now, let me explain this to you. The Bible is logic. Plain and simple. Period. Care to come up with anything for us, strat?
Historical Accuracy of the Bible
How am I going against Christianity? Could you please find a post where I bashed Christianity or said it wasn't real? I said stay on topic and I also said you that you shouldn't shove religion down people's throats. I don't see how saying those things went against Christian beliefs. I also want to know why you said that I can't have a open mind.
Random Mark Twain Saying
"Suppose you were an idiot. Suppose you were a member of Congress. Ah, but I repeat myself."
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