Quote Originally Posted by The Muffin Man
Why is anything between me and you eventually degraded into you declaring that if you can't be better, than I'm not either? Christ, I've been gaming all my life. I know what does and does not work for business. I've talked to countless people who are involved with business. I've taken only a few high school level business courses, but they've explained enough in the way of whetting the proverbial whistle. You show them something they want(pokemon, zelda) and they come back with the next product, hoping they get BETTER.
Now I do not know your school experiences just like I do not expect you to know mine. Now taking a few high school level business cources does put you ahead of myself I do admit becuase I never attended a high school business cource except for the required economics. Now I did give you the benifit of a doubt that you did know some stuff about the buisness industry, but at this moment I do believe your hatred for me and your loyalship to Nintendo is not allowing you to think rationally at the moment. Now yes what you said is true you show people what they want and they will come back for the next product hoping that it excells in the areas that they loved in the last product. That is why I believe that launching the Revolution with a Pokemon game will be a smart buisness move now, becuase like it or not current trends show that many of Nintendo's products have oversatuated the market. People just are not rushing to buy the newest Mario game or the newest Zelda game. In that respect you hope that those two franchises help push Nintendo come next year and this fall do you not? Well by your own logic that people come back for more then they shouldn't due to the fact that many hated the last Mario and Zelda game on a a major system.

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Actually, they're 3rd. Dead Last would mean they're behind a long line of competitors. Third of 3 is not bad. On top of that, Nintendo and MS have strugged for the number 2 spot since the two have been on the market together. "Dead last" implies Nintendos screwed. Third implies the truth - They're simply the third place spot. Is a Bronze Medalist "a horrible failure"? No, They're THIRD.
You can frame it any which way you like but third still means dead last, it still means that Nintendo who used to be king of the market just ten years ago has fallen down the slippery slope of business. Now with Microsoft still selling over game cube in all markets except for Japan I have to believe that Nintendo is in a spot that they just cannot crawl out of in this generation's life span. Micorsoft and Nintendo's struggle for market share ended last year, now please tell me when it comes to third parties which company do you think they will choose? The third place system where logically they would sell less, or the second and first place system where logically they would sell more.


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Or, could it be, *Gasp* they're not abandoning the Gamecube because a new system came out? Nah, that's unheard of. I mean, I know as soon as the PS2 came out I never saw a new PS1 game. Ever. Nope. Definetly none.
Actually according to IGN the last major PS1 game that came out for the system came out in 2003, exactly two years after the launch of the PS2. That game was Final Fantasy Origins. Now can you tell me how many Nintendo 64 games came out after the Game cube was released? Now you claim to know some about buisness which I do not doubt, but do you truely believe any business will continue to support a system while the public is off buying a newer version of that system? C'mon really I expect better than this, you know good and well that companies abandon their systems to make way for the new system, it's just a allocation of resources.

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Hence why you ignored my post. Capcom announced the port almost immedietly after the release, essentially tossing Nintendo a product that could be bought without any extra sales that DON'T benefit Capcom. Also, it was done behind the RE4 development teams back.
Now I do admit I did not read all of your post, I had no want nor urge to fight with you on a plethora of other subjects that would extend my post three to five times longer than it allready is. As for the Capcom deal I really have no knowledge of it, I do know that Capcom is a company and just like any other company they wish to make money. So when they discovered that they had a hit on their hands they planned to market it to it's full extent. A common business tactic I might add.

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No, it reaffirms MY point you ignored my post. Like I said above, Capcom pulled an underhanded tactic that shot Nintendo in the foot.
Capcom pulled a business tactic that any company would do when they have a hit on their hands. Instead of taking a smaller share of a game that took millions to make they decided to milk it for all of it's worth. If you expect companies to go to Nintendo and make good games then you should also expect them to send those good games off to other systems so that they could get the full extent of their money possible.

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FF8 looks like a cats ass next to some of the better Dreamcast games.
Well it should it came out atleast a year before Dreamcast came out.

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You really like driving that in, don't you? Pokemon didn't save Nintendo. It simply saved the handheld market from being a bunch of stiff boring platform games. Furthermore, The PS2 had a 1 year head start and you're not damning the XBox, now are you?
I'm not damning anything, but at the time of Pokemon, the N64 was having huge problems due to delays, at the same time PS1 was creaping up ever so closer to first place. Pokemon turned people's attention back to Nintendo.

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Yeah, that top contender for Game of the Year was just Nintendo paying people off.
Hey Sharktale was nominated for Best Animated Film, does that mean it deserved the honors? By the way you do know what a filler spot is correct?

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E3. Gameplay videos and a more solid frame of when Mario 128 will arrive and on what. On top of that, Mario Sunshine was a fantastic game and the secret levels without the waterpack were by far the best gaming experience many players have had in ages. Ask anyone who's actually PLAYED Sunshine after doubting it(Including me).
I cannot actually believe that you thought Mario Sunshine was a good game. Think about the Mario series before it, Mario 64, Super Mario World, Mario 3 for god sakes. Mario Sunshine was a horrible game and does not even hold a candle to it's previous games.

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Once again, there will be bleeding. But I do believe an young elven man wearing a green tunic might be the one striking the blows this holiday season.
Then please tell me why Legend of Zelda Wind Waker did not bring Nintendo to the top of the heap? If the Zelda series is so strong then why didn't Wind Waker bring Nintendo into First Place, or atleast a strong second? You know why? Casual Gamers, the life blood of the industry, and Casual Gamers are attracted to two things, violence and good graphics. The Xenon delivers on one of the two things and when it comes down to either getting what is "Cool" and what has been out for 4 years. I bet you that they will choose "What is Cool".

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You're really making it hard for me to remain as non-Fanboyish as possible. Have you ever seen the reaction to a Zelda game? Even Wind Waker was met with a pretty warm reception despite how cold it was received. This is what gamers wanted, and this is what we've been waiting for. Either you're one of the million "OLOL NINTENDO R DOOMED" who see a sale as "Too little, too late", of you've honestly not been gaming longer than Halo has been out.
Now I have tried to remain as non objective as possible in this, I gave you the benifit of the doubt on your history in buisness and the benifit of the doubt that you are a gamer. It is sad that you cannot give me the same respect. Now you say you have tried to remain as non fanboyish as possible, that right there is a out and out lie. Statements like Capcom STABED Nintendo in the back, is fan boyish. You claim to know alot about buisness which I hope and believe that you do, but so far you have shown almost no proof that you have any knowledge of the Gaming Industry, or Business in general.

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"Double-talk" meaning Sleight of hand. Not lies. But yes, most powerful could mean processor, it could mean sound quality, etc..
Yes and it could mean Toy Story type graphics like what Sony said for the PS2, does that mean the PS2 had that type of graphics? There is a common phrase in any business industry for what Nintendo is doing, it's called hype and until real numbers for the Revolution comes out I'm going to remain skepticle as you should too.

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You're really funny when you stake yourself into the opposite side just based on me. I suggest you stick to things you have a clue about, rather than just making a stance opposite me.
I didn't go into this just becuase of you although I am sure your ego will tell you differently. Right now I believe that Nintendo is shooting itself in the foot by not putting off the Pokemon XD release. Anyway I love Nintendo I really do I have all of their systems except for the DS and that is becuase I am going to New York in a few weeks. I just do not want to see Nintendo have another lack luster launch like it did with the Gamecube and like it did with the DS, it deserves better than that. We as gamers deserve beter than that.