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Thread: How long till we tell... ( Gas Topic )

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    Default Re: How long till we tell... ( Gas Topic )

    Quote Originally Posted by Office of the House Republican Whip
    Price estimates based on various sources
    Propaganda != Facts. I imagine the 'various sources' come from oil executives who would directly profit from any new drilling projects, and some guy called Ted who votes Republican.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heald View Post
    Propaganda != Facts. I imagine the 'various sources' come from oil executives who would directly profit from any new drilling projects, and some guy called Ted who votes Republican.
    Yeah notice how you have nothing to back this up. Either way as pointed out in the picture, drilling and opening new refineries as well as other things would lower the price. The picture gives you a pretty good estimate of how much of a price drop we would see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Karrde View Post
    Yeah notice how you have nothing to back this up. Either way as pointed out in the picture, drilling and opening new refineries as well as other things would lower the price. The picture gives you a pretty good estimate of how much of a price drop we would see.
    It's propaganda. He doesn't list any sources ("Various Sources"? How more ambiguous do you want to get?) and you should never trust any misinformation given out by any politician if it only serves to further their party's interests. I'd say the exact same thing if a Democrat came out with the same sort of thing, and the same if any of the parties in our country came out with anything like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heald View Post
    It's propaganda. He doesn't list any sources ("Various Sources"? How more ambiguous do you want to get?) and you should never trust any misinformation given out by any politician if it only serves to further their party's interests. I'd say the exact same thing if a Democrat came out with the same sort of thing, and the same if any of the parties in our country came out with anything like this.
    The thing is that he is right, the numbers can differ, but the things the Republicans want to do will bring down oil prices. The margin of error is open for intepretation, but we are looking at a possible 2 dollar drop and even more.

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    I'm only concerned about the price of gas because it also effects the price of food, which some people are struggling to be able to buy. Corn-based products are going to soar because of "safe" ethanol (which has been proven to be more harmful to the environment than petroleum-based gas) along with the flooding that has already killed crops in the Midwest.

    Not everybody can have a car, but everybody needs food. I just hope it changes for the better soon to lessen the rift caused by extremes in income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toxicity View Post
    I'm only concerned about the price of gas because it also effects the price of food, which some people are struggling to be able to buy. Corn-based products are going to soar because of "safe" ethanol (which has been proven to be more harmful to the environment than petroleum-based gas) along with the flooding that has already killed crops in the Midwest.

    Not everybody can have a car, but everybody needs food. I just hope it changes for the better soon to lessen the rift caused by extremes in income.
    Total agreement. In particular, the ethanol scam is bloody terrible. Eat corn, burn petrol, not the other way round...

    Roy: I'm interested in the new oil drilling technology you speak of. Any more information on this subject?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistysakura View Post
    Roy: I'm interested in the new oil drilling technology you speak of. Any more information on this subject?
    Its something that has been thrown around alot by Politicians and the Oil Companies, as to how technology now has been able to shrink the environemnt foot print caused by drilling.

    One example is the reusable modular platform created by the Anadarko Petroleum Corporation in 2003 for Alaska. This platform reduced the environmental foot print greatly when used.

    Other information can be found here.
    http://www.fossil.energy.gov/program...ent/index.html

    Its funny in a sad way, we have all of these studies and technologies that have been paid for both by private companies and by US Tax Dollars. And the Democrats do not have the spine to actually use it to bring down gas prices in the US. I mean what use is there to work on low impact drilling when the Democrats are going to let it go to waste and make the American People suffer?
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