TPM MAIN SITE REVIVAL PROJECT!

[mr_pikachu]

Sorry, apparently I wasn't very clear about us "having the information already." I was referring to your long post on page two of this thread; specifically, the archived pages on the games and such. We do have a significant amount of the episode listing done, though, and it appears that we also have two good initial ideas for the layout.

I think what we may want to do is figure out which layout everyone prefers, then make tweaks to that one while adding content. That seems to be the logical next step, to me at least.

Regarding a separate forum being made for the 'dex stuff, I have not yet approached the admins about that. My computer was actually cripplingly hacked a couple of days ago, so I spent most of my weekend backing up my data and wiping it. Sorry for the delay, but I couldn't even get online for awhile.

I agree with you that they'll take tons of work in comparison with everything else. It may end up being the last thing we finish before we post the site. (On that note, should we prioritize information on RSEDPP and work backwards? If we do, we might be able to afford having the 'dexes only partially complete on launch... as long as the new information is there, we may be fine.)

As for subsections under the main sections, I think there are a few ways in which we could handle that. One would be to have a drop-down menu when you entered an individual section... say, for instance, you entered the RBY section. On the sidebar, there might be additional indented links to "Walkthrough," "Attacks," "Items," etc.

Alternatively, we could do it like this archived page and just give the path above the content (i.e. Pokemasters / Red & Blue / Walkthough).

Your suggestion on the countdown sounds a little like how this layout worked. We should probably keep it higher on the right side if we do that, but it's clear that that structure does work.

(Other Pokemon Games, by the way, still exists. Online Pokemon Battling is the one that was archived.)



Mikachu: It's an interesting angle. I think we should probably keep our audience in mind, though. I'm not sure we'll get many visitors who rely on Japanese and can't speak English, so full summaries in Japanese probably aren't necessary. For the people who may want to have Japanese episode titles on hand, however, I have compiled a list of them through about nine-and-a-half seasons (plus Chronicles and the movies).



Okay. For now, are there any objections to picking one of the two layouts and working with it?

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

Mikachu: It's an interesting angle. I think we should probably keep our audience in mind, though. I'm not sure we'll get many visitors who rely on Japanese and can't speak English, so full summaries in Japanese probably aren't necessary. For the people who may want to have Japanese episode titles on hand, however, I have compiled a list of them through about nine-and-a-half seasons (plus Chronicles and the movies).

I got it, but where do you get the English translations for the titles from? But it's just that I don't rely on my own translations, and I think it would be good to have the original Japanese kana/kanji AND romaji to back me up. Tv Tokyo doesn't have romaji in its page anyway, so this could be something we'd have as an advantage, I think.

What about the Team Rocket mottos and vocabularies I talked about earlier? I found some printed pages from my collection and I'm considering posting them at Pokemon Anime.

Again, just my own thoughts, not related to the matters mostly discussed here...

[mr_pikachu]

I got it, but where do you get the English translations for the titles from?

You know... now that I think about it, I actually don't remember. It's been quite a long time since I started the original draft... maybe a year ago. I'll have to look through some of my information and see if I can figure out where I obtained it. We'll need the newer episode titles if we continue along that route, after all.

As for the mottos and such, I think that could be something we feature. Not sure exactly where we'd put it... maybe as kind of a worldwide area under the anime section? It's something to discuss.


fp: Just to be clear, we'll undoubtedly make some changes to whichever layout we use. The key is figuring out our starting point. It'll be easier to make changes quickly once we have an initial layout. (That will also make organizing content much, much simpler.)


I'll start trying to get some information from the archives and organize it. That way, we can spend more time focusing on other, more important tasks.

[firepokemon]

Yes in regards to the anime, eventually one could begin to explore more canon type things and areas such as mottos and the like. Be interested in that myself.

I've been going through the archives myself Mr. Pikachu, just have a looking at everything, noting a few things, some things to be expanded on and the like. One thing I have noticed is that some links are missing in the walkthrus for RBY and GSC. These give extra information and help for those walkthrus. I don't think one should be too worried about. I wouldn't even fix them up at this stage. Just something to note and to clear up at some stage.

Also of note for RBY at least. Haven't checked GSC, is that for items and HM/TMs list many of those link to the actual walkthru. Just something that should be noted.

Have we clarified as to what things we'll specifically work on for the debut of the site?

As for me in general, at this stage not doing anything substantial. Just exploring things, thinking about things. But when the time is ready, happy to help compile data and the like. Am looking forward to any discussions of some type of private forum for the compiling and writing down of specific pages and that so they can be commented on and edited etc etc.

[mr_pikachu]

I don't think we yet determined exactly what will be developed first. I did note, however, that pretty much everyone mentioned the Locatordex in their list of five things, so that definitely becomes a priority. (That's the reason I asked people to do that.) Aside from that, it seemed to be mostly basic information across the spectrum of the games. That leads me to believe we should go for standard information (much like what we had on previous sites) as a starting point. That can be our initial direction, if not a step-by-step plan.

If we have some people who want to work on other things as well (haven't heard too much about fanworks in the last few days, but that's something we'll eventually want to cover, I think... the translations are a good idea, too), then those plans can probably be included. I'm fine with casting a wide net, if that's what people want. But the things that most people mentioned in their lists should probably take precedence for the rest of us, at least at the start.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

The format I've used for mottos and such, has been BB code so far because I'm most familiar with it and then I can post it here in the forums first. But should I do HTML or something? I've had one HTML and Internet course when I was still at school and can't say I know much.

Edit: And by the way, what will the international section look like if there is just Finnish stuff?

[mr_pikachu]

Mikachu: I wouldn't worry too much about the format. If you've got the information, the people who are more familiar with HTML can handle the coding. ^^


fp: Well, I was thinking we might want to take a present-back approach, starting with the fourth generation and working backwards. Starting with the newest games would probably help us cater to a wider audience. And the handheld games should probably take precedence; Colosseum and XD can come later. (They were third-gen anyway, so we likely won't have as many visitors looking for that information.)

EDIT: See my note to Mikachu.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

Edit: And by the way, what will the international section look like if there is just Finnish stuff?

I'm sorry to bother you again with this, but in case I was ignored. So I know only one Swedish and one Japanese motto plus less than 10 Finnish ones. It will be one-sided if there's just me to post. But the following little Finnish-only stuff only I can produce, would be fun, I think, taken from one of my General Discussion topics:

Johto = a Finnish word meaning 'lead' (as a noun based on the werb 'to lead', 'johtaa'). Pronouned quite differently from Japanese 'jouto/jooto'.

Kanto = a Finnish word meaning 'tree stump'. I think it is pronunciated with two os in Japanese though.

Pika = a suffix in Finnish language, meaning 'fast' or 'quick', for example, 'pikaruoka' = 'fast food', 'ruoka' being the word for 'food'.

Paras = a Finnish word meaning 'the best'.

Minun = a Finnish word form meaning 'my, mine', the stem being 'minä'.

So you can say like this in Finnish:

Ash johtaa Johto-Liigaa.
Ash leads the Johto League.

Paras on paras!
Paras is the best!

Minun Minunini!
My Minun!

Tuo Minun on minun!
That Minun is mine!

Tässä ovat Minun, Paras, ja minun paras Pokémonini, Parasect!
Here are Minun, Paras and my best Pokémon, Parasect!

[firepokemon]

Yes so far the one thing noticed by most people have been the locatordex.

I can start compiling some of the data for each route etc in each game. I presume start with a map of RBY, map of Ruby and Sapphire. Maybe a separate map for Emerald. One for FireRed and Leafgreen and then one for Pearl, Diamond and Platinum??? Those are obvious. I don't know much about XD or anything do they have maps and the like? Even if they do, if we just focus on the main handheld games for each generation would likely be the best thing to do.

Edit: Just to clarify. This won't be actual HTML code or anything. Just simply going through each route, underground etc for each game and typing up the pokemon there what percentage they are, a note if a DS insert is necessary or if they're a swarm pokemon etc.