DragonballZ RPG

[Heald]

I vote whoever started this topic in the first place.

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OH HALLO

Also, regarding continuity errors if Planet Vegeta wasn't destroyed: Goku was sent to Earth years before Vegeta was destroyed, so even if Vegeta wasn't destroyed, Goku would be on Earth. Radditz would probably still go to Earth anyway just to check how Goku was doing. Radditz, annoyed by Goku being good and a pussy, tries to kill him but Goku and Piccolo kill him but Goku dies as well. Vegeta and Nappa come to Earth to find the Dragonballs that Piccolo spoke of to Radditz and then the timeline is restored, more or less.

One thing that is more or less certain though; if the whole Namek saga didn't happen, they'd all be screwed because then no one would have turned Super Saiyan, and all the villains in the sagas after the Namek saga (i.e. the androids, Cell, Buu) are more powerful than Super Saiyans, so we do have to assume the Namek saga happened, and therefore there is a new planet Namek somewhere.

Otherwise, I'm fine with Blade's idea too. If you want, I can talk with you Blade sometime today about it then we can get the sign-ups up sometime in the next few days. Is everyone agreed then?

[Master Rudy]

Also, regarding continuity errors if Planet Vegeta wasn't destroyed: Goku was sent to Earth years before Vegeta was destroyed, so even if Vegeta wasn't destroyed, Goku would be on Earth. Radditz would probably still go to Earth anyway just to check how Goku was doing. Radditz, annoyed by Goku being good and a pussy, tries to kill him but Goku and Piccolo kill him but Goku dies as well. Vegeta and Nappa come to Earth to find the Dragonballs that Piccolo spoke of to Radditz and then the timeline is restored, more or less.

Yeah that all makes sense. With or without Frieza I could still see the Saiyan Saga happening. Radditz checks up on Goku and sees Earth intact. Vegeta still heads to Earth over the prospect of the DB's, ect. Now here's where it could get intresting......

One thing that is more or less certain though; if the whole Namek saga didn't happen, they'd all be screwed because then no one would have turned Super Saiyan, and all the villains in the sagas after the Namek saga (i.e. the androids, Cell, Buu) are more powerful than Super Saiyans, so we do have to assume the Namek saga happened, and therefore there is a new planet Namek somewhere.

With Frieza out of the picture Vegeta instead could have seeked medical treatment at a Saiyan controled planet or space station. In turn assuming the events of the Saiyan Saga go down the way they do in the normal timeline you've got Piccolo/Kami dead and no DB's on Earth. This in turn leads to Namek. However instead of Frieza you now have Vegeta and a team of elite Saiyans (and possibly King Vegeta if he did not die against Frieza) as the main villians on Namek. King Vegeta could have risen to become as ruthless as Frieza and become a Super Saiyan himself. In turn other Saiyans seeing their ruler becoming as evil as Frieza may have turned on him and be deemed rebels. This could be where other Saiyans come into play.

However in a situation like this it's possible that Prince Vegeta never sides with the Z Fighters and ends up on Earth. This in turn leads to no Trunks.......then again he could always make Bulma a sex slave if they invade......

In any case there you go. Even without Frieza the timeline stays intact up until post Namek. From there the question becomes how much do you want to diverge off the original timeline?

[Heald]

To simplify things, I think the best bet would be to say that instead of blowing up Planet Vegeta, Frieza simply killed their most elite warriors (i.e. King Vegeta, Bardock and his team etc.) but obviously kept the loyal Vegeta and his lot (Radditz, Nappa etc.) alive, and with their best warriors killed, the rest of the race fell in line, becoming Frieza's slaves. Frieza then tricks Vegeta into thinking that Planet Vegeta was destroyed by meteors (in order to keep him loyal and to prevent Vegeta from trying to rise up and take his place as king), as per the original story. That way, the Saiyan and Namek Sagas would have still happened. When Goku becomes a Super Saiyan, Vegeta has already allied with the Earth lot by this time, and when Goku kills Frieza, the Planet Vegeta is freed. However, because Vegeta thinks Planet Vegeta is gone, he stays on Earth and therefore Trunks is born, causing the Cell Saga, then the Buu Saga remains as normal.

This actually works really well as an alternate reality, as you only need to change the detail about the planet not being blown up and the story would remain more or less exactly the same.

How about that? Any objections?

[Asilynne]

To simplify things, I think the best bet would be to say that instead of blowing up Planet Vegeta, Frieza simply killed their most elite warriors (i.e. King Vegeta, Bardock and his team etc.) but obviously kept the loyal Vegeta and his lot (Radditz, Nappa etc.) alive, and with their best warriors killed, the rest of the race fell in line, becoming Frieza's slaves. Frieza then tricks Vegeta into thinking that Planet Vegeta was destroyed by meteors (in order to keep him loyal and to prevent Vegeta from trying to rise up and take his place as king), as per the original story. That way, the Saiyan and Namek Sagas would have still happened. When Goku becomes a Super Saiyan, Vegeta has already allied with the Earth lot by this time, and when Goku kills Frieza, the Planet Vegeta is freed. However, because Vegeta thinks Planet Vegeta is gone, he stays on Earth and therefore Trunks is born, causing the Cell Saga, then the Buu Saga remains as normal.

This actually works really well as an alternate reality, as you only need to change the detail about the planet not being blown up and the story would remain more or less exactly the same.

How about that? Any objections?

This is genius! I was originally worried about the events of the namek and subsequently the cell/buu sagas in this alternate timeline until I read this. It all fits so Im happy with it :>

BUT! This also leaves it open for peoples characters to be Planet Vegeta Saiyans that have found earth after being freed from Friezas control, which Im very ok with, because my original idea can still come into play only using this fragmented former slave band of saiyans instead of the outcast "unworthy" saiyans in my original idea. Can we still do this in tandem with Blades idea? It would be interesting to have 1v1v1 instead of just the typical 1v1, since I dont think either blades group or my group would actually work with each other since they have different goals (Blades after the Dragonballs while mine after control of every living saiyan). Sorry to throw an extra idea into the mix when we are almost done figuring it out but I have to know since not much was said on this initially.

[Heald]

Well, we could either have a 3-way like you suggested, or we could stick it in the cooler and have it an idea for a possible sequel. Personally, I don't think the ideas are entirely compatible. Throwing it all in the mix would mean there would be more active crucial NPCs than PCs, which could be hard to keep track of.

[Asilynne]

Well, we could either have a 3-way like you suggested, or we could stick it in the cooler and have it an idea for a possible sequel. Personally, I don't think the ideas are entirely compatible. Throwing it all in the mix would mean there would be more active crucial NPCs than PCs, which could be hard to keep track of.

I suppose, but whether it does become a 3 way or it goes in the cooler my character will kinda introduce that possibility by her past, so I guess no matter what it will kind of be a "whats to come" hint for the earth saiyans. Then whether it happens in this rpg or the next it can be her fault that the other saiyans found earth because of them tracking her ship there

[Heald]

That's a good idea. We're setting this in the future, and in a reality where Planet Vegeta didn't blow up, therefore Saiyans are plentiful both on Earth (due to the kids of Goku and Vegeta) and in space, and there's no stopping space Saiyans from finding Earth and settling (or fighting). Therefore, if you feel we've missed anything in the backstory that you feel is relevant to your character, just put it in his/her history.

I'm going to try to talk to Blade tonight if he comes on so we can start this thing.

[pokemasterfrank]

o.o People still remember me.

I think I'm game for anything. I remember scrapping together some stuff for a rehash of SA a while back, but I never did anything about it. I wonder if I still have it.

Well, either way, sounds like you guys have it covered. I guess I'll just wait for you guys to post the topic?

[Heald]

It'd be great to have you back man.

This topic should be up soon. The wait is nearly over!