Surf or Dive?

[ArCaN1NeX]

I know this has come up before but I need help for a specific Pokemon.

When we finally are able to get the unobtainables, I'm thinking
about using a Vaporeon in place of my Starmie but I don't know whether to give it Surf or Dive. Surf has a 95bp (that and STAB is obviously good) and Dive has a 60bp but also protects your Pokemon from one of the opponent's attacks, and lets you get an extra turn of recovered HP from Leftovers (which my Vaporeon will have). So can anyone help me out here? Both are good but I just can't decide. This is what I'm thinking about giving Vaporeon:



Vaporeon@Leftovers
Personality: Modest (+ Spc. Attack, - Attk)

* Surf/Dive
* Ice Beam
* Rest
* Acid Armor/Attract

Which one do you think I should have?

[Gligar_Man]

1v1: surf
2v2: dive

surf, attract/toxic, roar/filler/ice beam, wish

dive, wish, toxic, ice beam

[ArCaN1NeX]

By the time we get all of the unobtainables, this will probably be my team...

Blaziken@Shell Bell
Personality: Mild

* Bulk Up
* Fire Blast
* Rock Slide
* Brick Break


Metagross@Leftovers
Personality: Mild

* Psychic
* Light Screen
* Earthquake
* Meteor Mash


Tyranitar@Chesto Berry
Personality: Quiet

* Rest
* Earthquake
* Dragon Dance
* Rock Slide


Banette@Leftovers
Personality: Impish

* Toxic
* Night Shade
* Return
* Will-O'-Wisp

Skarmory@Chesto Berry

* Spikes
* Rest
* Toxic
* Drill Peck

and lastly, Vaporeon.

[Ultimate Pikachu]

Why Quiet Tyranitar with no Special. Also, why Fire Blast on Blaziken when Flamethrower is better on it if you want a +Special Attack nature. I use Flamethrower more than Fire Blast. I like Surf because Vaporeon has good Special Attack. Dive if you REALLY need the extra HP boost. Don't infinate accuarcy moves hit Divers?

EDIT: I meant why, not with.

[Gligar_Man]

tyranitar will most likely be used for dragon dancing now cause hes such a beast and can live through it quite easily... and fire blast on blaziken because you wont want to put into s.a. on it being rock slide/brick break and bulk up... more people will use it for physical attacking over special, so fire blast is better than flamethrower in most cases u_p