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    What misconceptions about the games did the anime give you in the past?

    I remember an early episode where Ash and co. were saying that they preferred evolving pokemon by leveling them up instead of using stones, so that led me to believe that all pokemon evolved with experience, but you could force them to evolve with stones. I remember having a race with my brother leveling up our pikachus and I told him "no cheating by using the Thunder Stone".

    Another one is in the Lt. Surge episode, where Lt. Surge's Raichu was slow because he evolved it too early, so I thought that when you evolved a pokemon affects its stats. That one stayed with me at least until Gen 2. Back then I tried to evolve my Seadra as early as possible because I thought it would end up stronger with more experience as a Kingdra.
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    I didn't have this problem so much, as I played the games before starting the anime. The only real anime-induced confusion I can recall revolved around gen 2, which I thought (before its release) would include the Orange Islands. As awesome as the Kanto-Johto combo was, I maintain that we need a game with the Isles included.

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    Because of the stupid 4Kids awful editing when they did the 'Trainer's Choice', I always think that the Ralts line is part Grass-type. They did one where it said Arcanine is able to beat Kirlia so I kept assuming it was because of it being a Grass-type. Yeah, wasn't a fan of the Ralts line as you could see.

    I agree, we need an Orange Islands game. I wants a Lapras starter.

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    There was the misconception in the 1st Gen when Ash tries to catch Haunter because it isn't affected by Psychic attacks, except really Haunter sucks against Psychic because it's part poison. That annoyed the hell out of me.

    Or when Bulbasaur was beaten by Pikachu because Pikachu thundershocked it along its vines, I assumed Electric was super-effective against grass, when it is actually crap.

    I probably had a bunch of others but can't remember them.
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    In the Lt. Surge epi, you see a Sandshrew in the Center among a bunch of Pokes that were supposedly beat up by Surge. If a Sandshrew lost it must be pretty weak.
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    The main one was the goddamn using Electric on Rock. Episode in question?

    Piakchu thunderbolt + Rhydon's horn = Pwned Rhydon. I spent months trying to kill Rhydon with Thundershock-even though by then I knew that for EVERY OTHER Part ground type, Electric attacks were not going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkestLight View Post
    The main one was the goddamn using Electric on Rock. Episode in question?

    Piakchu thunderbolt + Rhydon's horn = Pwned Rhydon. I spent months trying to kill Rhydon with Thundershock-even though by then I knew that for EVERY OTHER Part ground type, Electric attacks were not going to work.
    The horn is not made of rock

    That's one of the many tactics that inspired the idea of ASB, if I recall.
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    Anime: Making two tiny creatures battle till one of the is knocked out = Good.

    Real Life: Making two tiny creatures battle till one of them is knocked out = Illegal.

    But yeh most of the stuff in the anime really didn't affect my playing of the games except for the fact that stratergy is key in all fights.


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    Pokemon Anime forum brought me a misconception that almost nobody replies here.

    OK, on topic, on topic. Ekans and Koffing are especially weak against Pikachu because Team Rocket always loses.

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    If I recall, Weezing didn't actually become a super useful powerhouse (in the games) until R/S generation when it got it's "Ability" and new attacks. I don't know details but all I remember Weezing was raved about when R/S came out. So, it makes sense that at the beginning of that season, TR would drop it so they have the excuse over "why didn't they take advantage of it".

    Not that I have any idea what made it so popular all of the sudden... I'm sure someone reading this thread might know more.
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    Default Re: Misconceptions brought on by the anime

    That Ghost Pokémon were effective against Psychics in RBY.
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    Weezing became super cool because of Levitate, like you said Zak. That eliminated its ground weakness, and since RS became this ultra fast metagame, this seemingly killable Pokemon suddenly found itself as an all new power house.

    Sure Psychics were around, but none really.....used Psychic except for Garde and Zam, so WHY would you put Weezing up against those two? It could also burn stuff now and just be an annoying hazer. It was funny watching Weezing gain usefulness then people started realizing they could kill it with CB stuff and Weezing died out again.

    And uhhh...Ghost Moves...are effective...against Psychics? Misconception, Dark Scizor? Or do you mean Psychic moves being not so effective against ghosts..?

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    He means that Ghosts weren't effective against Psychics back in RBY because the only Ghosts were part Poison and thus DESTROYED by Psychic attacks. Also, the only Ghost attacks in RBY were Confuse Ray and Night Shade (Lick was still Normal at the time.). Confuse Ray does no damage, and Night Shade does a set amount. So there were literally NO Ghost attacks that were strong against Psychic Pokemon.

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    For the longest time, I couldn't understand why my Haunter kept losing to psychic pokemon...





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    Also if you actually look at the type chart from RBY, you'll notice that Psychics were immune to Ghost attacks back then, so not even night shade worked against them. So the anime didn't lead me astray in that case, because I was able to see that ghosts sucked against Psychics just by checking the type chart.
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    o.O? :peeds to grab vintage R/B strategy guide.::

    ..Oh wow! They did add that in gsc. Man, crazy.

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    Arbok evolves into Seviper= Likewise ^_^

    They should, it upsets me that it doesn't. And how Steel explodes as soon as electricty hits it- and ground. Wow! Look at me, I'm ground and electric attacks are all up on my booody!

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    The Arbok evolves into Seviper thing and electric attacks affect ground types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pikachu View Post
    I didn't have this problem so much, as I played the games before starting the anime. The only real anime-induced confusion I can recall revolved around gen 2, which I thought (before its release) would include the Orange Islands. As awesome as the Kanto-Johto combo was, I maintain that we need a game with the Isles included.

    Oh, and Arbok evolves into Seviper. 'Nuff said. -_-
    I am not going to "me too!", because it was the anime which got me into the games, mainly watching Ash beat Brock using Thunderbolt. I didn't have any problems thinkiing that Onix had any weakness to thunderbolt after getting my first copy of Pokemon Red and playing it, but I was obsessed with owning a Butterfree and Pikachu back then. ^_^

    And yeah, I wanted an Orange Island Pokemon game too, but I think the game designers saw this and added the Sevii Islands to shut us up, although the Sevii Islands were a poor substitute for the greatness of the Orange Islands(what episodes I saw - I STILL need to see that episode about the Magnemite wagon train and the sewer monster!); the writers did their best to hide the fact that they didn't expect Pokemon to be so popular to warrant another season! ^_^

    And while I like Arbok and Seviper a lot(snake Pokemon were my first love), I think the dubbers who did that trivia question need to have The Punisher come in and stick their heads in an electrified pool for being so clueless.

    There was the misconception in the 1st Gen when Ash tries to catch Haunter because it isn't affected by Psychic attacks, except really Haunter sucks against Psychic because it's part poison. That annoyed the hell out of me.
    I guess that is why Haunter fled when Ash tried to use it against Sabrina.

    Ash: Go Haunter!

    Haunter: Screw you, kid, I'm not that suicidal to go against a psychic Pokemon which would rape me with its Psybeam! *laughs*

    *sigh*

    And the fact that the first generation's only ghost Pokemon were dual-typed to something weak against psychic attacks and had only one damaging ghost move, which was glitched to be ineffective against the type it was supposed to be strong against. Thank goodness Gen 2 fixed the glitch and gave us a decent ghost attack, Shadow Ball. All those Gengars were eager to hurry to Johto. Too bad they are now overshadowed by Mismagius, Dusknoir, and Banette. ^_^

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    Uh, you're confusing it with Bite, which was Normal until the Dark Type showed up in Gen 2 and they decided to change it to a Dark attack.

    Lick was a ghost attack, but a stupid mechanics glitch made it ineffective against psychics. This was why Mewtwo was so powerful back in Gen 1 - also, because Special was one stat and thus Amnesia was insanely powerful. A Mewtwo with Amnesia, Psychic, Thunderbolt, and Recover RAPED anything that wasn't also psychic. Jolteon was the only one who had enough speed to paralyze Mewtwo and do damage with Pin Missile, which is a sucky attack to this day.
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    The only misconception that affected my game play was that Elec was good against Rock, although for me that misconception didn't really come to light until Yellow Version.

    That and Ghosts sucked horribly until Gen II when they introduced Shadow Ball (thank god), god Sabrina's pokemon raped everyone horribly. Stupid Alakazam swept me.

    Oh and lets not forget the ever crappy leech life which was the only "good" attacking bug move.
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