My Crazy Legend of Zelda Timeline theory

[Charles Legend]

MC - FS - FSA - ALTTP - OoX - LoZ -AoL - LA - WW - PH - ST
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(Kid Icarus / MC BS) - MC - OoX - Zelda Wii - OoT - MM - TP - FS - FSA - ALTTP - LA

Adult Timeline:

fist come the four Sword trilogy namly to explain Ganon before the Wind Waker.

In Link to the Past Ganon broke out of the our Sword.

Oracle of Ages/Seasons: the Master Sword was made from the broken Four Sword.

Legond of Zelda: a newly revived Ganon stormed Hyrule castle and stole the Triforce of Power, Zelda had hid the her part of the Triforce.

Adventure of Link: Link finds out that he holds the third part of the Triforce.

Link's Awaking and Zelda sending Link back in time at the end of Ocarina of Time: explains why there was no hero when Ganondorf broke out of the Sacred Realm thus the goddess flooded Hyrule.

Wind Waker: the Master Sword in this game was made in Oracle of Ages/Seasons, it was then named the Magical Sword in Legond of Zelda/Adventure of Link becuse the old man did not know it was caled the master sword but know it was magical, then was renamed the Master Sword and placed in the basment of Hyrule Castle.

Phantom Hourglass: a direct sequel to the Wind Waker.

Spirit Tracks: Not much info out yet, but it dose seam to take place after Phantom Hourglass.

Child Timeline

Kid Icarus: it seems reasonable to say it happens around the time Hyrule was created.

Now Kid Icarus has two goddess, Palutena the Goddess of Light and Medusa the Goddess of Darkness.

Now then to me it seems like Palutena created Light, The Light Force, her part of the triforce, Aka the missing forth piece, the Light Spirits and maybe also the Oocca and the Fairies.

Now Medusa as the Goddess of Darkness most likely crated darkness, monsters and the Fussed Shadows.

Now if my hunch is right the place of winds and the city of the sky are most likely a small part of the kingdom of Angel Land.

which means then that the Centurion mite actally be the the People of the Wind, yes I know the sprites of the Centurion had wings but it's still posable since there are stories in which Angels appere to be just mortals.

Witch brings me to my point that Pit was an Angel/a member of the peole of the wind and thus to mortals using the Holy Sword thought he looked like a hatless Link, in other words Pit may have been the Hero of Men.

Minish Cap: the wind mage Vaati brakes the Holy Sword known to Hyrule as the Picori Blade which later becomes the Four Sword in which Link seals Vaati

Oracle of Ages/Seasons and Zelda Wii: the master sword is made, the hags use an echo of Medusa to create Ganon and fused it to Ganondorf himself or to the Trident.

also the Minish Cap and Oracle of Ages/Seasons and Zelda Wii may explain the war in which link mom died in, the master Sword and the Ocarina of Winds become part of the keys to the Sacred Realm, the Ocarina of Winds was renamed the Ocarina of Time. also I think part of the reason why Link's mom died was that she was delivering the Spiritual Stone of Forest, Kokiri's Emerald to the Grate Duke Tree.

Ocarina of Time: Link and Zelda foolish try to get the Triforce before Ganondorf dose, well you know what happened Zelda sends Link back to the child timeline thus crating the Adult Timeline.

Majora's Mask: a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time.

Twilight Princess: the ethereal Sages tried and failed to kill Ganondorf, and imprecision him into the twilight realm. Ganondorf died at the end

Four Sword: Vaati brakes out of the four Sword and tries to marry Zelda, but link sels him back into the Four Sword.

Four Sword Adventure: Link kills Vaati and seals Ganon in the Four Sword.

A Link to the Past: Ganon broke out of the Four Sword then tries to brake out of the Sacred Realm by killing the decedents of the seven sages.

Link's Awaking: Link apparently leaves Hyrule to train incase Ganon ever returns to Hyrule.

So yeah like I said a crazy timeline theory ...

~Charles Legend

[Blademaster]

Kid Icarus?

Zelda Wii?

Spirit Tracks?

Freaking FOUR SWORDS in BOTH timelines at TOTALLY different ends?

THIS TIMELINE IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.

[Austrian ViceMaster Alex]

Finding a decent Zelda timeline is pretty much impossible.

I think all that is clear is that Ocarina of Time was the first, Majora's Mask comes after; Link to the Past belongs before Legend of Zelda and Zelda 2 due to the box text of the game. Phantom Hourglass goes after Wind Waker and Wind Waker after Majora's Mask but most likely before Link to the Past due to the instruction manual's text.

Remember Spectacle Rock? In OoT it's a volcano, in LttP, LoZ and AoL it isn't. So it would make sense to be a whole new rock formation dubbed with that name. So the Hyrule in those games is the one Link and Zelda found with the guidance of the wind after WW. But where to put Twilight Princess, in that one Spectacle Rock is a volcano yet again.

And the handheld games? You can place most of them wherever you want.

I it's pretty much impossible to find a Zelda timeline that really fits 100 %.

[Crazy Elf Boy]

Well i have a few theories myself about the timelines in the games.

First off I think the starting game would be Minish Cap where the Picori blade is actually a brand new master sword. The you have the Four Swords and Four Swords Adventure where the Picori blade is broken and becomes the four sword and then returns to a single blade (the Master Sword). Then nothing happened for a while and here is where it normally gets a bit tricky, thanks to the events in the Ocarina of Time game 2 sepearate timelines were created through Zelda's actions with the Ocarina. One timeline is where Link leaves on his other journeys and the other is where he stays in Hyrule and lives out his life.

Timeline 1: When Link leaves Hyrule he goes to Termina in Majora's Mask, then is ship wrecked on Kolohiint Island (Link's Awakening) and then finally travels to Holodrum and Labrynna (Oracle of Ages & Seasons). But since Link left Hyrule Ganon was able to come back and reek havoc on Hyrule so the gods washed out the land. Many years later one of Link's possible descendants is charged with the duty of collecting the pieces of the Triforce of courage and using them to vanquish Ganon once and for all (Windwaker). With Ganon out of the way this new Link teams up with Tetra and continues his adventures in Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.

Timeline 2: Since Link stayed when Ganon returned he was able to defeat him (Legend of Zelda). With Ganon now dead his minions tried to revive him by using the blood of Link but we thwarted by Link's efforts (Links Adventure). Though Ganon was defeated in this realm he still had power in the dark realm, so many years later Aganhim decides to contact Ganon and ask for his powers but was again thwarted by one of Link's descendants with the help of the descendants of the seven sages. (A Link to the Past) With Ganon banished again to the dark realms it was many years before another person tried to contact him this perosn was Zant, but after a lengthy battle with another descendant of Link Ganon is once again defeated and possibly banished to the dark realm (Twilight Princess).

So here is a quick recap

Minish Cap

Four Swords/ Four Swords Adventures
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Ocarina of Time
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Timeline 1

Timeline 2

Majora's mask

Legend of Zelda

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Link's Awakening

Link's Adventure

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Oracle of Ages/Seasons

A Link to the Past

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Windwaker

Twilight Princess

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Phantom Hourglass

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Spirit Tracks

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

I only glanced through your awesome theories, partly because they would perhaps contain spoilers for me. Anyway, I'm planning to look for some The Legend Of Zelda games, I never owned one myself, and I was wondering, should I buy/play them through in certain order? I don't know if this question belongs here, but I wanted to try.

[Crazy Elf Boy]

Well there are a many number of Zelda games each on a different console but here is a small list.

NES:
-Legend of Zelda
-Link's Adventure

Snes:
-A Link to the Past

Gameboy:
-Link's Awakening
-Oracle of Ages
-Oracle of Seasons

Nintendo 64:
-Ocarina of Time
-Majora's Mask

Gameboy Advance:
-Minish Cap
-Four Swords
-Legend of Zelda (Remake)
-A Link to the Past (Remake)

Gamecube:
-Four Swords Adventures
-Windwaker
-Ocarina of Time (Remake)
-Majora's mask (Remake)
-Legend of Zelda (Remake)
-Link's Adventure (Remake)
-Ocarina of Time Master Quest

Nintendo Wii:
-Twilight Princess

Nintendo DS:
-Phantom Hourglass
-Spirit Tracks

The games I recomend buying and playing are first of Ocarina of time, this game really made the series. Majora's Mask was also good but a few people didn't like it. Windwaker was also another good game as is Twilight Princess so these four are really a must play. For the handheld consoles, Minish Cap isn't too bad, Oracle of Ages and Seasons are fun. Some people also didn't enjoy Phantom Hourglass but I liked playing it

[PNT510]

You really don't need to worry about spoilers in the Zelda series. The fact that no one is even sure what order the games come in goes to show how disconnected they could be.

I suggest you start with Zelda: A Link to the Past if you want to play the classic/handheld games. Or with Ocarina of Time if you're playing the 3D games. Really you can start with any game you want though.

[Blademaster]

My recommendation, Mika, is that you start off with either ALttP or The Minish Cap. They play somewhat similarly and will give you an understanding of both how complex and how simple the games are without being overbearing.

And believe me, if you start with OoT, you WILL be overwhelmed. Why?

Two infamous words, mah boi:

Water. Temple. Not Jabu-Jabu's Belly. WATER TEMPLE.

[Heald]

Trying to piece together a Zelda timeline makes about as much sense as trying to make a Mario timeline, including games such as Mario Kart, Mario Tennis, Mario Golf, Donkey Kong, Super Smash Brothers, and Doctor Mario.

Oh, and Hotel Mario.

Speaking of which, your timelines are missing THE BEST GAMES IN THE ZELDA SERIES

[PNT510]

I like the little Jesus fish thingy on the note the wizard dude reads to the king.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

Thanks for the opinions everyone. I saved this thread on a memory stick. So, I must go to game shops next and pay attention to The Legend Of Zelda offering. Different consoles aren't a problem, I have Nintendo 64, Nintendo GameCube, Nintendo Wii, Game Boy Advance, Game Boy Advance SP and Nintendo DS.

[Blademaster]

Speaking of which, your timelines are missing THE BEST GAMES IN THE ZELDA SERIES

Wha...?

Heald, you dumbass! Those aren't the best Zelda games! THESE are!

[Master Rudy]

Water. Temple. Not Jabu-Jabu's Belly. WATER TEMPLE.

God damn it Blade! After ten years I FINALLY put that shit out of my mind and yet your mere mention of it brings back terrible memories! THANKS A LOT! lol

In regards to the timeline it's always been a bit confusing. Some of the following was stated by Eiji Aonuma in an interview once. Other parts of this are gathered from the various games in the series. And finally Miyamoto himself has stated a few things. Most notable is the misconception that LttP predates the original. This was apparently a flub in the original English translation and personally I'm going to take the word of the series creator over anything else.

In any case here's my personal timeline with reasoning where I can provide it. Note that some side story games were left out because I feel some of them are not part of the normal timeline and are AU due to the fact that they contradict facts sometimes:

-OoT (Stated many times by Miyamoto to be first in the timeline)
Timeline splits right at the end of the game
Timeline A

Link has been restored to the present and regains his childhood. He warns Zelda and Ganondorf is captured and tried by the spirits of the ancient sages. However he still manages to get the Triforce of Power. Eventually this leads to the events of TP.
-Majora's Mask (6 months after OoT, OoT Link)
-Twilight Princess (100 years later, new Link and Zelda, same Ganon)
Unknown amount of time passes.
-Legend of Zelda (Once again heroes decendants but same Ganon)
-Zelda 2 (LoZ Link)
Unknown amount of time passes.
-Link to the Past (You guessed it.....new Link/Zelda, same Ganon)
-Link's Awakening (LA is to LttP as MM is to OoT so this is LttP Link ^_~)


Timeline B

Ganon is sealed away by Zelda and the sages of the "future" timeline in OoT. Since Zelda sends Link back in time and restores his childhood eventually when the Ganon of this timeline breaks free there are none left to oppose him. With no other choice the Godesses flood Hyrule leading to......
-Wind Waker (100 years after OoT. As always new Link and Zelda, same old Ganon)
-Various WW spinoffs


One intresting theory to note is no matter what timeline you look at Ganon is ALWAYS the same person. The theory behind this is that the Triforce of Power has made him immortal. Normally fatal injuries won't kill Ganon. Instead they will only piss him off and stop him long enough enough to be sealed away or "killed" again. Eventually the ToP will allow him to either break free or restore him to life.


EDIT-And while I'm not looking to be an ass (yet I know this part is going to come accross as such) I'm with Blade here......that timeline is totally fucked up Charles. I can usually deal with almost any crazy timeline theroy. Hell when you consider I'm a fan of Star Trek, Chrono Trigger/Cross and the Terminator you kinda have to learn to accept the various crazy things people come up with since usually there is almost always something that makes sense. However all the Zelda stuff aside Kid Icarus is a TOTALLY different series! You just can't link them bro! Plus various games are just plain out of place man. Ocarina has been stated by the SERIES CREATOR to be first in the timeline! So in any timeline there is no dispute. It would be like trying to argue with Akira Toriyama over who was stronger: Mystic Gohan or Goku at Super Saiyan 3. He flat out has Goku admit Gohan was stronger near the end of Z, hence his shock at Vegeta's idea of a Spirit Bomb. No question about it. Gohan may be stronger but he lacks the skill that will totally destroy Buu for good. It's not always a question of power as Goku proves that factor time and time again by beating fighters he shouldn't be able to defeat.

Going back onto topic while some of the games in the early 90's had questionable translations it's been long established that Link's Awakening was a direct sequel/side story in the way Majora was related to Ocarina, Hourglass was related to Wind Waker, ect. Granted in one timeline you've got the LttP/LA part right but in another you've got LA after AoL. Personally I think your trying to fit in as many games into the timelines as you can.

Finally how do you even declare TP and the Wii version of TP to be two different games? On one timeline you've got "Zelda Wii" eventually followed by Twilight in the timeline! What the hell man?! That's just boggles the mind! Even if the Zelda Wii you refer to is the new game set for 2010 (but knowing Nintendo getting pushed back to 2011) then how can you even say it's BEFORE Twilight Princess? Nothing has been established about the new game aside from a teaser poster showing Link! IT MAKES ZERO SENSE!



The last part in paticular deserves a DOUBLE facepalm!

Edit again-Yeah each time I read this I lose my mind more due to the mind boggling nature of the timelines Charles put up.......yeah I know that you can't make a 100% for sure timeline but damn! There's just some things you can't argue with here! ~_~()

[Blademaster]

Actually, Rudy, most people put The Minish Cap at the start of the series, prior to even Ocarina of Time by several generations.

[Master Rudy]

Actually, Rudy, most people put The Minish Cap at the start of the series, prior to even Ocarina of Time by several generations.

This is true since someone who worked on that game said that it even predated OoT. However I left that out because first off it's a handheld Zelda. Granted I did throw in LA but that was mainly due to the fact that I was getting annoyed with seeing it misplaced on everyone elses timelines when it's been stated as being a direct sidestory/sequel to LttP. Plus there's the fact that every single handheld Zelda game I've seen (with the obviously exception being the console ports) tends to be a spinoff and never seems part of the main story which to me is the continuing battle between the bloodline of the ancient hero (the various Links) and Ganon. Plus while I can't remember the team member's name I know it wasn't Miyamoto and as far as I'm concerned if he didn't say it then it's to be taken with a grain of salt. Don't forget that it was widely accepted for years that LttP was a prequel to the original LoZ due to what the original box for the US version said. However fast forward to 1998 and we now have Miyamoto saying Lttp was NOT a sequel.

Bottom line is if he didn't say if then I feel it's just another theory. The difference here that makes it intresting is it's the theory of someone who worked on the game that wasn't Miyamoto.

[ssj4supernerd]

Every time I see Link's Awakening after Oracle of Seasons/Ages I screamed the whole town to my house. In the linked ending of Seasons and Ages Link leaves with a raft, obviously stating that Link's Awakening happens after Seasons and Oracles.