2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Roy Karrde]

Then Obama's gains were... zero?

Look at my original figures again.

We all know he did better than that, Roy. The unemployment numbers have improved at least slightly in his first term.

That is to assume the top number of the Stimulus which obviously I do not believe. However I do believe a significant amount of Obama's numbers do come from the Stimulus. By the way the reason much of the unemployment numbers are down, is because those looking for work are bailing out. It would be like saying cutting out all the job seekers so that unemployment goes down to zero.

[Dark Sage]

I hear that all the time Roy. The GOP just loves to say that every time unemployment goes down.

I'm sure it's true... To a degree. Maybe not as much as they claim, however. But you can be sure that the folks who are "bailing out" are not going to support the GOP. Those are the people who the OWS crowd came from.

[Roy Karrde]

I hear that all the time Roy. The GOP just loves to say that every time unemployment goes down.

I'm sure it's true... To a degree. Maybe not as much as they claim, however. But you can be sure that the folks who are "bailing out" are not going to support the GOP. Those are the people who the OWS crowd came from.

They do not need to support the GOP, all they need to do is not vote for Obama.

[Dark Sage]

Well, it's official... Romney is the GOP nominee.

Unfortunately, due to his willingness to work with one of the most notorious birthers in the country, my opinion of him has dropped like a stone.

If Romney won't stand up to a charlatan like Trump in order to line his pockets with donations, what does that say about the type of President he would be? Huh?

Here me now. Until Romney decides to tell Trump off like the idiot he is, I will not respect him as a politician.

And by the way... If anyone tries to convince me that Romney isn't making a poor choice by accepting Trump into his fold, my opinion of that person is going to plummet too.

[Roy Karrde]

Well, it's official... Romney is the GOP nominee.

Unfortunately, due to his willingness to work with one of the most notorious birthers in the country, my opinion of him has dropped like a stone.

If Romney won't stand up to a charlatan like Trump in order to line his pockets with donations, what does that say about the type of President he would be? Huh?

Here me now. Until Romney decides to tell Trump off like the idiot he is, I will not respect him as a politician.

And by the way... If anyone tries to convince me that Romney isn't making a poor choice by accepting Trump into his fold, my opinion of that person is going to plummet too.

Dude you are one of the biggest partisan hacks on here, no one expects you to have a high opinion of Romney. By the way this is the email the Romney camp has sent out, and I do agree with them, you spend time reputing everyone, it distracts from the issues.

" Romney aides believe that cooperating with Democrats and media figures who are demanding a Trump disavowal would most certainly lead to more calls for more disavowals of other figures in the future — leaving Romney spending as much time apologizing for his supporters as campaigning for president. Team Romney views it as a silly and one-sided game designed to distract voters from the central issue of the race, which they remain convinced will be President Obama’s handling of the economy.

By one-sided, they mean not only that Obama has not disavowed SuperPAC contributor Bill Maher for a number of Maher’s statements that were particularly insulting to Republican women. They also mean the press, with, as Team Romney see it, questionable associations of its own. Has David Gregory, moderator of NBC’s “Meet the Press,” repudiated his colleague Al Sharpton, the MSNBC host with a decades-long record of incendiary statements and actions? And has, say, the New York Times columnist Gail Collins repudiated her colleague Charles Blow, who once wrote to Romney, “Stick that in your magic underwear”? Romney, his team believes, understands that the calls for him to repudiate Trump over the issue of birtherism — and future calls to repudiate this or that supporter next week or next month over some other issue — are at the core all about politics.

Another reason Romney is wary of such concessions is that John McCain tried them, and they didn’t do him any good."

[Dark Sage]

Bullshit. By law, the candidate can have no connection to a SuperPAC that is suppporting him, and no control over it. It is an entitiy that exists independent of him.

If I wanted to compare Romney's relation to Trump to Obama's relation to anyone I would have said so. I do not, and I don't care. Trump is a birther racist, and so long as Romney pals around with with him, I won't respect him.

And like I said Roy, my respect for you has now diminished.

Edit: I'm "one of the biggest partisan hacks on here"? Maybe, but so are you.

[Roy Karrde]

Bullshit. By law, the candidate can have no connection to a SuperPAC that is suppporting him, and no control over it. It is an entitiy that exists independent of him.

And is that why he not only endorsed the PAC but is allowing White House staffers to campaign for it?

If I wanted to compare Romney's relation to Trump to Obama's relation to anyone I would have said so. I do not, and I don't care. Trump is a birther racist, and so long as Romney pals around with with him, I won't respect him.

Seeing your low opinion of Romney already, I doubt that changes much. But its funny that you are mad at Romney for being pals with a birther, but have no problem with Obama being pals with a terrorist.

And like I said Roy, my respect for you has now diminished.

And I care about this why?

Edit: I'm "one of the biggest partisan hacks on here"? Maybe, but so are you.

I may be a distant second, but that is the keyword isn't it.. distant.

By the way here are some facts for you.

Romney's Unemployment Rate: 4.5%
Number of net new jobs created under Obama ( In the negatives still )
Romney's gain in women over the last month: +13%
Obama's gain in women over the last month: -7%