2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[kurai]

pennsylvania called for obama by cbs, nbc, fox

[kurai]

in other not a swing state news, wisconsin called for obama by fox news

[kurai]

colorado 41% report, O+ 6
florida 81% report, tie
nh 16% report, O+ 12
ohio 36% report, O+ 7
virginia 47% report, R+ 4

[Dark Sage]

Mr. Obama is the projected winner of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

Florida right now is separated by less than 1,000 votes. This will be very close.

[kurai]

colorado 48% report, O+ 5
florida 83% report, O+ 1
nh 17% report, O+ 11
ohio 40% report, O+ 6
virginia 55% report, R+ 4

new hampshire called for obama by cbs

[Dark Sage]

With Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and New Hampshire going to Obama, the math gets pretty straightforward. Romney needs Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, AND Ohio. Or, he could lose Ohio and win the rest of the swing states (i.e., Iowa, Nevada, Colorado) and end up with a 269 to 269 tie.

But I don't think his chances are very good IMOHO.

[kurai]

something no one will report on

puerto rico

do you want to be a territory? 52% no

what do you want to be?
63% statehood
31% sovereign free associated state
5% independence

[kurai]

colorado 50% report, O+ 3
florida 85% report, O+ 1
ohio 47% report, O+ 4
virginia 62% report, R+ 4

[Dark Sage]

This is shaping up to be the biggest embarrassment for the GOP in years.

They lost both of Romney's home states.

They lost Ryan's home state.

Instead of gaining control of the Senate, like they planned, they've so far lost four seats.

Mourdock lost, Akin is still losing. I guess that what they said was a pretty big deal after all.

McMahon didn't only lose, she got her ass kicked, bad.

And to think Dan Rather said that his gut told him this would be a good day for Romney. Maybe it was some bad egg salad he had for lunch.

[kurai]

colorado 64% report, O+ 4

florida 87% report, O+ 1
miami-dade county at 64% reporting
broward county at 84% reporting
orlando area counties at 90% reporting

iowa 26% report, O+ 19

ohio 60% report, O+ 2
lucas county at 3% reporting (toledo)
cuyahoga county at 9% reporting (cleveland)
summit county at 19% reporting (akron)

virginia 69% report, R+ 3
fairfax county at 29% reporting
norfolk county at 0% reporting

scott brown conceding

[kurai]

cuyahoga county is like 13% of the state population and went 69% for obama in 2008

florida automatic recount at 0.5% margin

obama is down 1.6 million in popular vote

this hilarious day is never going to end

[kurai]

colorado 66% reporting, O+ 4
iowa 42% reporting, O+ 12
florida 90% reporting, O+ 1 (-36405)
ohio 66% reporting, O+ 2
virginia 77% reporting, R+ 1

north carolina called for romney by fox news (not a swing state)

[Dark Sage]

Yeah, well, the popular vote might change once California is factored in.

NBC has called Iowa for Mr. Obama.

[Roy Karrde]

Well I think the thing that may have changed the election here was the Hurricane, it showed Obama to be Presidential for the first time in the long time. I think he will get a second term now, but as I said before there needed to be a game changer, and it looks like the hurricane was the game changer.

[Dark Sage]

And it's over.

Ohio and Oregon have been called for Mr. Obama, and he's over 270.

I can now breathe a big sigh of relief.

I'll be back in the morning. Good night all.

[kurai]

presently romney has to win florida recount, flip ohio, hold virginia and win nevada

florida is at 0.5% margin with 94.3% reporting
gary johnson is at 0.5% of florida vote
get in

[kurai]

ohio called for obama by fox news

election called for obama by nbc

[RedStarWarrior]

Election called for Obama by CNN.

[mattbcl]

Election called for Obama on Fox News. I do believe that's the ballgame, ladies and gentlemen.

Cold tonight. Think I'll grab an extra cover. G'night all.

[Perfect Chaos]

Election's over. Hur-friggin-rah. Enough with this Godforsaken topic and can some mod please close this already >_>

[Dark Sage]

Looking back at the past 15 months, I'm reminded of so many things...

Like Douglas Hibbs' Bread and Peace Model, where he used mathematics to predict a Romney victory. Think he might have forgotten to carry a two somewhere?

Or that university in Colorado who has successfully predicted every Presidential election for the past... Twenty years, was it? But who predicted a Romney victory. Can't win 'em all, I guess.

I'm reminded of every crazy Romney supporter who replied to my well-thought-out posts by telling me to "keep drinking the Kool Aid", and the moronic rantings by birthers. I'm reminded of exagerrations and outright lies told about Mr. Obama, about the anti-gay sentiments spewed by the GOP and their chauvinistic attitude.

The thing that disgusted me the most was the Super Pacs.

Well, I guess that Mr. Romney and his billionaire friends can learn one thing from this... No matter how rich you are, there are just some things that money can't buy.

[Oslo]

Congratulations to Obama.

Good night, and fuck yeah.

[Roy Karrde]

my well-thought-out posts

....

Eh not going to touch this one.

Its been fun guys!

[MToolen]

And again, now we should make with the action-doing. This filibuster nonsense for four more years would drive even me to drink.

[kurai]

or

more gridlock than ever?

given no landslide, a permanent maintenance of the campaign mode obama that people apparently enjoy will be necessary to serve as an ongoing threat against the house (obstruction having already been threatened days ago)

other than that, there is some cool news given the status quo: d-sen + d-pres locks up scotus for a couple decades

plus serious puerto rican statehood progress is interesting

[Dark Sage]

Here's something to think about:

With Obama's win in Nevada, it means that Florida, Ohio, and Virginia did not even matter in the end. Obama has 272 electoral votes even without them.

And with Obama still President and the Democrats still holding the Senate and the GOP still controlling the House, billions of dollars were spent on a campaign that does not seem to have shifted the balance of power in the least.

Money is the root of all evil... Like I said, there are some things that it just can't buy.

[RedStarWarrior]

We can still talk about other things, like the fact that recreational marijuana is now legal in WA and CO.

[Magmar]

Good on WA and CO... I don't think weed should be illegal, it's pretty harmless

Oh and YAY!!!! FOUR MORE YEARS <3 <3

[Drago]

This is a wonderful thing... the end of this stupid fucking thread is almost in sight.

[shazza]

I'm willing to write an exhaustive reply regarding the legality of marijuana, but right now:

[shazza]

Which states were most surprising?

[DarkestLight]

>.> Montana voted in almost all Democrats, yet still went red. No effing sense :/

[Telume]

And once again, we're the joke of the country as far as decisiveness goes. -.-

[Dark Sage]

Which states were most surprising?

Virginia was kind of a surprise. I didn't expect it to go to Obama.

Some other good things that happened tonight:

Gay marriage is now legal in Maine and Maryland; Minnesota voters struck down a bill that would have forbidden it. Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin made history as the first openly gay politician to be elected to the Senate.

Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock will be looking for new jobs, and good riddance is all I can say. Same for Linda McMahon, whose two failed bids for the Senate have cost her almost $90 million of her own money. Considering how badly she lost last night, throwing it all in a trash dumpster would have saved her a lot of time.

In short, my only regret, really, is that Bachmann is still in the House. I can take comfort in knowing that no-one will likely listen to her any more.

So... Anyone want to take bets on how long before Orly Taitz tries to convince a judge that the election was rigged, or that the results should be considered null and void because of Mr. Obama's "ineligibilty".

[Gavin Luper]

Glad that Obama won a second term, and it's good news about same-sex marriage in the states that legalised it.

Interesting that marijuana use has been legalised in two states. I think, on balance, I'm in favour of legalised drug use: drugs themselves are quite neutral - all they really serve to do is numb feelings, or amplify feelings that are already there anyway. Nonetheless, saying that use of certain drugs is relatively harmless is a bit troubling: people who drive stoned, for example, pose a serious risk to their own and other people's safety, as much or probably more so than a drink driver. Plus, smoking anything is not good for the lungs; and marijuana use can also have the effect of unmasking latent schizophrenia. Of course, people will do drugs regardless of their legality, so it's from a harm reduction perspective that I support legalised drug use, to enable safer drug use and reduce crime, overdose, etc. - but there are still risks involved that shouldn't be ignored.

The election has finally come and gone ... I think let's leave this thread open a day or two more and then it's closing time.

[classy_cat18]

Once again, Florida is dragging their feet. *headdesk*

My opinion on Romney's loss? Probably wouldn't have happened if it weren't for his crazy running mate.

[Greyfox]

The GOP certainly knows how to pick their running mates, aye?

[Knight of Time]

As a Canadian, following American politics and trying to keep an understanding on how it all works isn't exactly easy for me, but in the end, I'm glad Obama won.

It only makes me wonder how high his popularity will soar here in Canada with his second term.

[Dark Sage]

Once again, Florida is dragging their feet. *headdesk*

My opinion on Romney's loss? Probably wouldn't have happened if it weren't for his crazy running mate.

I can think of several reasons why Romney (and the GOP in general) lost. They alienated minorities and women, and assumed - wrongfully - that Democrats who voted for Mr. Obama the last time were so disappointed with him that they'd stay home this time.

The people who waited in line six hours to vote - in bad weather in some places - proved that the last presumption was a big mistake.

Clearly, the Supreme Court's ruling on Super Pacs was a dud. All the millions of dollars they poured into Romney's campaign accomplished nothing. Like I said before, money can buy a lot of things, but an election isn't one of them.

And maybe if Romney had taken an oath of loyalty to the American people and not one to the National Organization for Marriage, it would have helped.

Hopefully, Romney will be forgotten as time goes by, just like Wendell Lewis Willkie was.

Who was he? Ah, look him up.

[Roy Karrde]

The GOP certainly knows how to pick their running mates, aye?

My opinion on Romney's loss? Probably wouldn't have happened if it weren't for his crazy running mate.

May I note the Democrat's Running Mate is a utter retard with Joe Biden?

And maybe if Romney had taken an oath of loyalty to the American people

Been waiting 4 years for Obama to take that oath of loyalty