2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[Dark Sage]

Congress doesn't seem to interested in Obama or Clinton's role in Bengazi anymore. They seem far more focused on General David Petraeus for some reason.

[Roy Karrde]

Congress doesn't seem to interested in Obama or Clinton's role in Bengazi anymore. They seem far more focused on General David Petraeus for some reason.

Well there are two questions that now need to be answered

A: What did Obama know, and when did he know it. If Obama knew Petraeus had been compromised week ago, and let him stay on until after the election to avoid a sex scandal. Then that opens Obama up to possible criminal prosecution.

B: When will Petraeus testify before Congress. He was scheduled to testify just days before he resigned. Some say he won't now. As a chief witness in Bengazi, he needs to testify.

[Dark Sage]

Roy, do you actually think that Boehnir will initiate impeachment hearings against Mr. Obama?

He won't do that for the following reasons:

1. He remembers all too well the humiliation the GOP suffered when they attempted to impeach Clinton.

2. He's more moderate than Gingrich, and far smarter.

3. Due to the results of the election, he realizes that the GOP's popularity isn't as high as previously believed, and he's worried about 2014 right now, where he stands a good chance of losing his position.

4. Due to the results of the election, people are taking Fox News, the biggest source of information on this "scandal", far less seriously, and their ratings are in the toilet.

5. Boehnir realizes that there are too many Democrats in the House and Senate for such an endeavor to ever have a prayer of being successful. (Refer to the first and third reason.)

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, do you actually think that Boehnir will initiate impeachment hearings against Mr. Obama?

He won't do that for the following reasons:

1. He remembers all too well the humiliation the GOP suffered when they attempted to impeach Clinton.

2. He's more moderate than Gingrich, and far smarter.

3. Due to the results of the election, he realizes that the GOP's popularity isn't as high as previously believed, and he's worried about 2014 right now, where he stands a good chance of losing his position.

4. Due to the results of the election, people are taking Fox News, the biggest source of information on this "scandal", far less seriously, and their ratings are in the toilet.

5. Boehnir realizes that there are too many Democrats in the House and Senate for such an endeavor to ever have a prayer of being successful. (Refer to the first and third reason.)

Hey I do not know what will happen, nor do you. However I am pointing out that such a action by Obama does open himself up for possible criminal prosecution. By the way where is your proof on Fox News ( Note it is a red harring anyway in your argument )

[Dark Sage]

You can live in denial as much as like, Roy. The GOP is in damage control after their worst humilation in years.

Romney won a single battleground state, and lost the others. Obama won both of Romney's home states, Ryan's home state, Rubio's home state, Christie's home state, and Jeb Bush's home state. Not something that five prominent Republicans should be pleased with. In fact, other than North Carolina, the states that Romney won were Republican strongholds that no-one expected Obama to win.

The GOP's plan to retake the Senate not only failed, they lost two seats. Elizabeth Warren's upset victory over Scott Brown in Massechusetts is something they'll remember for a long time.

And Michelle Bachmann is likely tearing out her hair now that Tammy Baldwin has been elected as the first openly gay Senator. Clearly, the voters in Wisconsin told the folks who wrote the GOP Party Platform where they could stick it.

Speaking of Bachmann... Several months ago, she predicted that the GOP would not only retake the White House and the Senate, but they would have a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate. I had a good laugh when I heard that. Idon't know whether she was incredibly optimistic or just plain crazy. In any rate, the GOP utopia she envisioned is in shambles.

So keep dreaming of Mr. Obama's downfall. He's staying, and the Affordable Health Care Act will never be repealed. He will appoint the next Supreme Court Justice, and it will be somebody who will vote to uphold Roe vs Wade. At this rate, even if you can find solid proof that he was watching live televised footage of the attack and chose to do nothing, as Fox News claims, the GOP will never get enough votes to oust him.

[mattbcl]

A: What did Obama know, and when did he know it. If Obama knew Petraeus had been compromised week ago, and let him stay on until after the election to avoid a sex scandal. Then that opens Obama up to possible criminal prosecution.

Roy, if you wouldn't mind, I have a question here, because I'm a little confused and would like some clarification - what crime are you accusing Mr. Obama of perpetrating? I'm no lawyer, but as far as I'm aware, having an extramarital affair isn't illegal in the U.S., nor is having knowledge of someone else having one and choosing to keep it to oneself (although it would be mightily humiliating in the case of a commander-in-chief). And I haven't seen anything regarding Petraeus being "compromised" beyond the fact that he made an extraordinary error in judgment over his personal life. I don't see the possibility of criminal prosecution in existence here unless there's context that I'm missing.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, if you wouldn't mind, I have a question here, because I'm a little confused and would like some clarification - what crime are you accusing Mr. Obama of perpetrating? I'm no lawyer, but as far as I'm aware, having an extramarital affair isn't illegal in the U.S., nor is having knowledge of someone else having one and choosing to keep it to oneself (although it would be mightily humiliating in the case of a commander-in-chief). And I haven't seen anything regarding Petraeus being "compromised" beyond the fact that he made an extraordinary error in judgment over his personal life. I don't see the possibility of criminal prosecution in existence here unless there's context that I'm missing.

The problem is not that it is humiliating or that having a extramarital affair isn't illegal. The problem is that by having the affair, Petraeus was sitting himself up for possible blackmail, to use a term being connected with this, Petraeus had been "compromised", again by sitting himself up for potential blackmail. If Obama allowed Petraeus to stay in the position with all the power, rights, and privileges it brings while knowing that Petraeus could be blackmailed with information about his infidelities, merely for electoral gain. I would suspect that would be breaking a few laws, just for having that liability still be in position for even a few more days.