200 Team Rate

[Consolidated]

The Nameless Minions

Item: Choice Band
Trait: Swarm
Personality: Adamant
EVs: 4/252/0/252/0/0
-HP Rock
-Megahorn
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch



Item: Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
Personality: Calm
EVs: 252/0/0/8/30/220
-Surf
-Rest
-Toxic
-Leech Seed



Item: Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
Personality: Sassy
EVs: 252/0/252/0/0/4
-Rest
-Toxic
-Earthquake
-Thunderbolt



Item: Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
Personality: Timid
EVs: 4/0/0/252/252/0
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Fire Punch
-Thunder Punch



Item: Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Personality: Adamant
EVs: 124/252/0/0/128/0
-Surf
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Frustration



Item: Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Personality: Careful
EVs: 252/0/128/0/0/128
-Rest
-Protect
-Night Shade
-Will-O-Wisp

I might replace Ludicolo with Milotic and Dusclops with Weezing. Feel free to suggest new pokes,sets, items, EVs, etc...

[Agent Elrond]

Originally posted by Consolidated

The Nameless Minions

Item: Choice Band
Trait: Swarm
Personality: Adamant
EVs: 4/252/0/252/0/0
-HP Rock
-Megahorn
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch

I don't pretend to be an expert with Heracross, Sir Chris would be better for this, but anyhoo: I would have Brick Break over Focus Punch, becase you don't seem to have a way to debilitate your enemy appropiately on your entire team. Unless that's as a Slaking killler...

EVs are good for Choice Banded Hera.


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
Personality: Calm
EVs: 252/0/0/8/30/220
-Surf
-Rest
-Toxic
-Leech Seed

The general concensus with Ludi here is Swift Swim>Rain Dish. If you want Ludi as primarily a water type, try this set:

Rain Dance
Surf
Leech Seed
Rest


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
Personality: Sassy
EVs: 252/0/252/0/0/4
-Rest
-Toxic
-Earthquake
-Thunderbolt

There were some good Registeel sets floating around her a few months ago, unfortunately i can't remember any.

I think Safeguard over Rest would be a good investment here, but use your own judgement. (Remember Registeel cannot be poisoned.)


Item: Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
Personality: Timid
EVs: 4/0/0/252/252/0
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Fire Punch
-Thunder Punch

Try Knock Off over Thunderpunch, taking all those leftovers off your opponents team will be a real bonus, plus it give you a chance to royally skrew up other Choice Banded Heracross before you die.


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Personality: Adamant
EVs: 124/252/0/0/128/0
-Surf
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Frustration

Myself I like this Swmpert:

@Lefties
Personality: Quiet (+ SpAtt -Speed)

Curse
Roar
Earthquake
Ice Beam

Curse Roaring is great, and thus you'll also want a - Speed nature. I gave it Quiet for Ice Beam. Also with Ice Beam you have a chance of catching some Grass types on the switch in, plus nothing can resist the Ice/Ground attack combo.

...Actually I think this is Ralts_Mudkip's Swampert no wonder it sounded familiar.


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Personality: Careful
EVs: 252/0/128/0/0/128
-Rest
-Protect
-Night Shade
-Will-O-Wisp

[B]Good EVs, but try this set:

Mean Look
Toxic
Curse/Night Shade
Rest

The idea behind the Curse set is: Trap the enemy, poison 'em, curse 'em, and then get some rest and sit around while it kills itself. The problem here is that Dusclops will get owned by pokes with Tuant, that's why it's worth considering Night Shade over Curse. The choice is up to you.

All in all a nice team, I don't see any blaring 3x weaknesses, and the pokes look pretty good. Now I am very tired, and I must go.

[MetalScyther]

The general concensus with Ludi here is Swift Swim>Rain Dish. If you want Ludi as primarily a water type, try this set:

Rain Dance
Surf
Leech Seed
Rest

Um..what good would that do? I don't understand whats so great about a fast ludicolo. Ludicolo's special attack isn't anything special(on average it will only be like 225 spcl. atk) and thats nothing. What's a fast ludicolo going to do, toxic them fast? Okay, swift swim can be better then rain dish. But rain dance should never be on ludicolo's moveset.

I think Safeguard over Rest would be a good investment here, but use your own judgement. (Remember Registeel cannot be poisoned.)

Registeel is incredibly slow..he wouldn't be able to set up a safeguard before getting slept/burnt. He needs rest in order to toxic stall..

Try Knock Off over Thunderpunch, taking all those leftovers off your opponents team will be a real bonus, plus it give you a chance to royally skrew up other Choice Banded Heracross before you die.

What good would knock off do on a sweeper alakazam? Alakazam's focus here is to calm mind up, and hit everything 2x effective or kill it immediately. Not to knock off somewhat irrelevant items..

Curse Roaring is great, and thus you'll also want a - Speed nature.

Curse roaring is horrible. In R/S, the faster pokemon always uses roar. So that means if gyarados dragon dances against swampert and is faster, it's roaring always goes first. Therefore, swampert would lose.

Finally, curse is one of dusclops worsts move. If dusclops had access to 340 speed, then it would be okay. The situation would be: dusclops gets hit first(its slower) and then uses curse. This brings dusclops down to atleast 25% health, if not lower. Next turn, dusclops dies. :[

[Agent Elrond]

Meh, so sue me, I am but lowly pond scum whose pathetic attemp to be original must surely rouse your godly ire. You are a much more experienced player than I, and far more worthy to give such advice.

But I must admit you way of putting things can be rather harsh and hurtful, even to wretched n00b dung beetles such as myself. And that is not always the best policy, even if you are a mod.

Forgive this gut parasite's incoherent ramblings, it has a heart, but aparantly no brain.

[MetalScyther]

Well, I tried to abandon my previous "lol your a nub" ways, I used to act like that all the time 5 months ago. I didn't call you any names, and I'm sorry if I sound harsh. But I do find enjoyment out of proving people wrong, and I still can't find a way to say that something is horrible without making myself sound harsh, I understand completely.

That said, I'll actually provide a rate:

Heracross: okay, but I personally like brick break over earthquake, since they mostly cover the same things.

Ludicolo: poifect, if you want to use rain dish or swift swim, its up to you.

Registeel: ok

alakazam: encore > thunderpunch imo, but this set is ok

swampert: great

dusclops: i personally think nightshade is sorta lame, especially with how slow dusclops is. I say go with mclops, or go calmmind, icebeam, willowisp/toxic, rest.

I won't bother to rate evs, because I'm too lazy and you probably won't listen to me anyways.

Overall looks pretty solid team, keep up the good work.

[Warahyuu]

Item: Choice Band
Trait: Swarm
Personality: Adamant
EVs: 4/252/0/252/0/0
-HP Rock
-Megahorn
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch

Fine. I've never really used one.



Item: Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
Personality: Calm
EVs: 252/0/0/8/30/220
-Dive
-Rain Dance
-Toxic/Giga Drain
-Leech Seed



Item: Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
Personality: Sassy
EVs: 252/0/252/0/0/4
-Rest
-Toxic
-Earthquake
-Thunderbolt

This is fine. You can also try amnesia and iron defence over earthquake and thunderbolt to make him an annoyer.


Item: Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
Personality: Timid
EVs: 4/0/0/252/252/0
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Fire Punch
-Thunder Punch

Fine.



Item: Chesto Berry
Trait: Torrent
Personality: Adamant
EVs: 6/252/0/0/0/252
-Curse
-Return/Frustration
-Earthquake
-Rest/Ice Beam

Only 3 pokemon resist both normal and ground, Skarmory, Gengar and Aerodactyl


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Personality: Careful
EVs: 6/0/252/0/0/252
- Rest
- Mean Look
- Toxic/Will-O-Wisp
- Double Team

[Misty]

Originally posted by Warahyuu
Only 3 pokemon resist both normal and ground, Skarmory, Gengar and Aerodactyl

and misdreavus and solrock and lunatone...

[Kyl3]

Originally posted by Consolidated

The Nameless Minions

Item: Choice Band
Trait: Swarm
Personality: Adamant
EVs: 4/252/0/252/0/0
-HP Rock
-Megahorn
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch

Go Guts. Couters W-O-Wers


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
Personality: Calm
EVs: 252/0/0/8/30/220
-Surf
-Rest
-Toxic
-Leech Seed

Umm... That could work, but I like:

Ice Beam (Flying types)
Toxic
Leech Seed
Rest/Protect


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
Personality: Sassy
EVs: 252/0/252/0/0/4
-Rest
-Toxic
-Earthquake
-Thunderbolt

Curse
Rest
EQ
Return/Frustration/Toxic



Item: Lum Berry
Trait: Synchronize
Personality: Timid
EVs: 4/0/0/252/252/0
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Fire Punch
-Thunder Punch

Go Ice Punch over Thunder Punch


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
Personality: Adamant
EVs: 124/252/0/0/128/0
-Surf
-Curse
-Earthquake
-Frustration

Curse
Ice Beam
Earthquake
Mirror Coat/Rest

Curecoat is legal on the bots... :x


Item: Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Personality: Careful
EVs: 252/0/128/0/0/128
-Rest
-Protect
-Night Shade
-Will-O-Wisp

Keep.

I might replace Ludicolo with Milotic and Dusclops with Weezing. Feel free to suggest new pokes,sets, items, EVs, etc...