The Chunky Clefable Cafe

[RaZoR LeAf]

I notice something missing, like R/S/E pokemon, it's a pain to ask, but any chance of that list?

http://www.pokemasters.net/forums/in...0078#msg630078

Lorefel's been used in battle, actually. He fought alongside Wizard against Ozstar and Ozbra. I know this because I played the referee.

-drew

Oh yes, so he did. Thanks for reminding me.

[Dark Dragonite]

Thanks RL!

[Chris 2.1]

I was considering something today.

As the runner of the Egg Center, I've seen a lot of people buying eggs and I've never done it myself. I thought about getting a random Pokemon, what does anybody think? I could either ask Dan to do the randomising for me, or if you all trusted me, I could do it myself.

Should I get an egg? Thoughts please

[Mega Horny]

Sure. We have a lot of people here so even if you don't like it you can get your money back at the trading tower; someones bound to want it.

[Dark Dragonite]

I say go for it, when we had businesses, Moltrecuno, Amy and I used to use our own businesses

[Greyfox]

I could either ask Dan to do the randomising for me, or if you all trusted me, I could do it myself.

Oh my! I got a baby Tyranitar from my egg!

-drew

[Chris 2.1]

Then it's settled! I shall buy a Wonder Egg.

[sarcasm] I hope I get a Mew! [/sarcasm]

Oh yea there's a new rule. For the next 1 people to buy an egg, you can get a legendary Pokemon out of it.




















Not

[Greyfox]

Oh, I am so there!

*purchases egg* *egg hatches*

Entei? Dammit!

-drew

[RaZoR LeAf]

Damn drew and Chris. We are the only people with big teams, STOP RUBBING IT IN THAT YOU HAVE MORE POINTS THAN ME!! *sniff* I want my battles to come to an end (with me winning) so I can afford things again.

[Greyfox]

I only have three points now though... ;_;

'ey, Dan, do you still have my old banner floating around somewheres?, because mine's starting to look crappy... it's cool if you don't, but meh...

-drew

[Chris 2.1]

Attention: Im sort of sick of having points so by the time my egg hatches (*is excited*) I'll go and evolve some guys.

[Dark Dragonite]

After one of my matches ends, I want to face you RL, I'll probably lose, but I might as well try, eh?
and I may be back at the egg center if I trade my gastly for a point, I think I'm going to become the normal type master, lol
I love my chansey and kkahn, and if it could be morphed, it would look like this, and be 00ber, thanks to Mew Trainer Rose

[RaZoR LeAf]

I only have three points now though... ;_;

'ey, Dan, do you still have my old banner floating around somewheres?, because mine's starting to look crappy... it's cool if you don't, but meh...

-drew

Yeah I still have it. It'll need to be updated of course. I'll work on it for you.

DD - Sure, ok. But I'm full up atm and will be for a while I think.

[Greyfox]

Awesome, thanks!

-drew

[Knight of Time]

March 31, 2006

for pets sake

First catch hall of fame

Ok here a list of who got what first since we restated….

Bulbasaur: Indecent Exposure
Ivysaur:
Venusaur:
Charmander: Indecent Exposure
Charmeleon: Syberia
Charizard: Syberia
Squirtle: Indecent Exposure
Wartortle: Hanada Tattsu
Blastoise: drew
Caterpie: Indecent Exposure
Metapod: Chris 2.0
Butterfree: Chris 2.0
Weedle: MeLoVeGhOsTs
Kakuna: MeLoVeGhOsTs
Beedrill: MeLoVeGhOsTs
Pidgey: Pichu
Pidgeotto: Pichu
Pidgeot: Pichu
Rattata: Zup
Raticate:
Spearow: Pichu
Fearow:
Ekans: Keltzon Mar'thik
Arbok:
Pikachu: Soneko
Raichu:
Sandshrew: Wolfsong
Sandslash:
Nidoran-F: Wizzy
Nidorina:
Nidoqueen:
Nidoran-M: Gengar's Shadow
Nidorino: Vermillion
Nidoking: Vermillion
Clefairy: TheBlueAvenger
Clefable: TheBlueAvenger
Vulpix: Mobius19
Ninetales: Crystal Tears
Jigglypuff:
Wigglytuff:
Zubat: RaZoR LeAf
Golbat: RaZoR LeAf
Oddish: TheBlueAvenger
Gloom:
Vileplume:
Paras:
Parasect:
Venonat: Lord of Ravens, King of Rain
Venomoth: Tsuki Megami
Diglett: TheBlueAvenger
Dugtrio: TheBlueAvenger
Meowth: Matt
Persian:
Psyduck: Goten Shy
Golduck: Vermillion
Mankey: Chris 2.0
Primeape: Chris 2.0
Growlithe: Weasel Overlord
Arcanine: Darkfire
Poliwag: Soneko
Poliwhirl: Soneko
Poliwrath: TheBlueAvenger
Abra: Matt
Kadabra: Syberia
Alakazam:
Machop: Adz44
Machoke:
Machamp:
Bellsprout: RaZoR LeAf
Weepinbell: RaZoR LeAf
Victreebel:
Tentacool:
Tentacruel:
Geodude: Icy
Graveler: Chris 2.0
Golem:
Ponyta: Heald
Rapidash: River
Slowpoke: Gengachu
Slowbro: MeLoVeGhOsTs
Magnemite: Heald
Magneton: RaZoR LeAf
Farfetch'd: Turtle-scab
Doduo: Vulpix.ck87
Dodrio:
Seel: Vulpix.ck87
Dewgong:
Grimer: Gengar's Shadow
Muk:
Shellder: DarkTemplarZ
Cloyster: Weasel Overlord
Gastly: Gengachu
Haunter: Chris Watarimono
Gengar: drew
Onix: Girafarig
Drowzee: Zup
Hypno:
Krabby: Yawgmoth
Kingler: River
Voltorb: Zup
Electrode: drew
Exeggcute: TheBlueAvenger
Exeggutor: TheBlueAvenger
Cubone: Weasel Overlord
Marowak: Chris 2.0
Hitmonlee:
Hitmonchan:
Lickitung: Chris 2.0
Koffing: Andrew
Weezing: TheBlueAvenger
Rhyhorn: DarkTemplarZ
Rhydon: Subliminal Seranade
Chansey: Hikaru
Tangela: Turtle-scab
Kangaskhan: Jolteon100
Horsea: Hanada Tattsu
Seadra: Mega Horny
Goldeen:
Seaking:
Staryu: Andrew
Starmie: The_Missing_Link
Mr. Mime: Andrew
Scyther: The_Missing_Link
Jynx: Chris 2.0
Electabuzz: Chris 2.0
Magmar: Chris 2.0
Pinsir: Mystic_clown
Tauros: The Muffin Man
Magikarp: Green Lanturn
Gyarados: Green Lanturn
Lapras: Charles legend
Ditto: MTC
Eevee: VirtualPlay
Vaporeon: Wolfsong
Jolteon: Wolfsong
Flareon:
Porygon: Aragornbird
Omanyte: Adz44
Omastar: TheBlueAvenger
Kabuto: Yero Thropp
Kabutops: TheBlueAvenger
Aerodactyl: Aragornbird
Snorlax: Hikaru
Dratini: Gengachu
Dragonair: Silver Dragonair
Dragonite: Wolfsong
Chikorita: Ali
Bayleef: Wolfsong
Meganium:
Cyndaquil: LeGeNDaRy
Quilava: Chris 2.0
Typhlosion: Chris 2.0
Totodile: Knight504
Croconaw: Sesshomaru
Feraligatr:
Sentret: Wolfsong
Furret:
Hoothoot: Chris 2.0
Noctowl: MeLoVeGhOsTs
Ledyba: EngiMatikul
Ledian:
Spinarak: Jay
Ariados: RaZoR LeAf
Crobat: RaZoR LeAf
Chinchou: Psyshadow
Lanturn:
Pichu: Pichu
Cleffa: Soneko
Igglybuff: PBug
Togepi: Chris Watarimono
Togetic:
Natu: Pichu
Xatu: Pichu
Mareep: Cheesey
Flaffy: Cheesey
Ampharos: Vermillion
Bellossom:
Marill: Wolfsong
Azumarill:
Sudowoodo: Zup
Politoed: Chris 2.0
Hoppip: Andrew
Skiploom:
Jumpluff:
Aipom: drew
Sunkern: Charles legend
Sunflora:
Yanma: EngiMatikul
Wooper: Pikachu101
Quagsire:
Espeon: Wolfsong
Umbreon: Syberia
Murkrow: Pichu
Slowking:
Misdreavus: Andrew
Unown:
Wobbuffet:
Girafarig: Soneko
Pineco: Chris 2.0
Foretress: Zup
Dunsparce: Darkest Light
Gligar: Pichu
Steelix: Girafarig
Snubbull: Chris 2.0
Granbull: Chris 2.0
Quilfish:
Scizor: The_Missing_Link
Shuckle: Siderous
Heracross: Loupeitak
Sneasel: Mobius19
Teddiursa: Ursaring17
Ursaring:
Slugma: MeLoVeGhOsTs
Magcargo: MeLoVeGhOsTs
Swinub: Zup
Piloswine: RaZoR LeAf
Corsola: Andrew
Remoraid: Soneko
Octillery: Chris 2.0
Delibird: Pichu
Mantine: Sharpedo Boy
Skarmory: Jolteon100
Houndour: Matt
Houndoom: Wolfsong
Kingdra:
Phanpy: strewth
Donphan:
Porygon2: Aragornbird
Stantler: The_Missing_Link
Smeargle: Chris Watarimono
Tyrogue: Iveechan
Hitmontop:
Smoochum: Moonlight Espeon
Elekid: Iveechan
Magby: Jolteon100
Miltank: pokemasterfrank
Blissey: Syberia
Larvitar: Gengachu
Pupitar: Chris Watarimono
Tyranitar: drew
Treecko: Mobius19
Grovyle: Knight of Time
Sceptile: Knight of Time
Torchic: Wolfsong
Combusken: Aragornbird
Blaziken: Wolfsong
Mudkip: powermudkip
Marshtomp: Chris Watarimono
Swampert: Chris Watarimono
Poochyena: Midnight Moonlight
Mightyena:
Zigzagoon: goldenzigzagoon
Linoone:
Wurmple: multiple-laser
Silcoon: Wolfsong
Beautifly: Wolfsong
Cascoon:
Dustox:
Lotad: powermudkip
Lombre: Dark sage
Ludicolo: Dark sage
Seedot: RaZoR LeAf
Nuzleaf: RaZoR LeAf
Shiftry: Vermillion
Taillow: classy_cat18
Swellow:
Wingull: Pichu
Pelipper: Pichu
Ralts: Raven The Jedi Bounty Hunter
Kirlia: Dark sage
Gardevoir:
Surskit: EngiMatikul
Masquerain: Chris 2.0
Shroomish: River
Breloom: River
Slakoth: Raven The Jedi Bounty Hunter
Vigoroth: Vermillion
Slaking:
Nincada: Subliminal Seranade
Ninjask: RaZoR LeAf
Shedinja: RaZoR LeAf
Whismur: Iveechan
Loudred:
Exploud:
Makuhita: Iveechan
Hariyama: Vermillion
Azurill: Wolfsong
Nosepass: TheBlueAvenger
Skitty: Trainer Sophia
Delcatty: Wolfsong
Sableye: VirtualPlay
Mawile: Pyrusette
Aron: Girafarig
Lairon:
Aggron:
Meditite: Mobius19
Medicham:
Electrike: drew
Manectric: drew
Plusle:
Minun: Darkfire
Volbeat: EngiMatikul
Illumise: RaZoR LeAf
Roselia: Weasel Overlord
Gulpin:
Swalot:
Carvanha: TheBlueAvenger
Sharpedo: TheBlueAvenger
Wailmer: Typlosion!56
Wailord:
Numel: Suzaku
Camerupt: River
Torkoal: Master of Paradox
Spoink: Pyrusette
Grumpig: Vermillion
Spinda: River
Trapinch: Charles Legend
Vibrava: Aragornbird
Flygon: Aragornbird
Cacnea: Chris 2.0
Cacturne: Chris 2.0
Swablu: Green Lanturn
Altaria: River
Zangoose: Green Lanturn
Seviper: Lord of Ravens, King of Rain
Lunatone: RaZoR LeAf
Solrock: RaZoR LeAf
Barboach: Hanada Tattsu
Whiscash:
Corphish: LeGeNDaRy
Crawdaunt:
Baltoy: Chris 2.0
Claydol: Chris 2.0
Lileep: PBug
Cradily:
Anorith: Ursaring17
Armaldo: drew
Feebas: Rick_James_EKFTS
Milotic: Aragornbird
Castform: Mystic_clown
Kecleon: Green Lanturn
Shuppet: Gothic Animé
Banette: Tsuki Megami
Duskull: multiple-laser
Dusclops: Chris 2.0
Tropius: Zup
Chimecho: Crystal Tears
Absol: Hikaru
Wynaut: Siderous
Snorunt: Phoenix Rider
Glalie:
Spheal: RaZoR LeAf
Sealeo: RaZoR LeAf
Walrein:
Clamperl: multiple-laser
Huntail:
Gorebyss:
Relicanth:
Luvdisc:
Bagon: LeGeNDaRy
Shelgon: Aragornbird
Salamence: Aragornbird
Beldum: VirtualPlay
Metang: drew
Metagross: drew
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note I spent time looking threw both Approval Towers, also if you want dates just say so....

~Charles legend

Hmm, seeing this list just now made me think of a new question.

You guys think we should have a list of Pokemon in this ASB that are shiny, or otherwise a different colour than they would usually be (but not be shiny)?

If so, I can definitely name three Pokemon of mine that would fit under this, namely Goldix my shiny male Steelix, Blade my crimson male Sceptile and Hydronix my shiny male Squirtle.

What do you guys think?

[Andrew]

Don't waste your time.

[Greyfox]

Like TML said earlier, it would just spawn nonsensical competition and what-not.

"I'm the first Kadabra user to fight without psychic attacks!"
"Oh yeah? Well, I'm the first person to catch a shiny blue Cubone!"

-drew

[Ace64]

Yeah, I have to say I feel a strange urge to evolve Bertha and get "teh furst Wailady eva!!!!!11!1" since I've seen that list.

[Hatake Kakashi]

So guys, general question here.

For the refs, how much do YOU usually ref a supereffective attack doing damage for? What about a glancing blow of Thunder in the rain?

[RaZoR LeAf]

Well all my damage calculations run off this dinky little chart:

DAMAGE CALCULATOR
Weak - 10-40 = 3%
Small - 41-60 = 4%
Medium - 61-80 = 8%
Strong - 81-110 = 10%
Very Strong - 111+ = 12%

So based on what damage they do in the game, this is more or less how much damage is taken (energy is the same style, but a lower percentage) give or take certain things like where the attack hits, or if it's been weakened in any way. For Super effective atatcks, I usually add on about 4-5%, again depending on how the attack has hit. Same for Uneffective, I take the amount off. I don't double up for x4 weaknesses though.

[Elec Man EXE]

I add 2-4% damage for super-effective hits, usually.

And I agree with Razor, I don't count quad-weaknesses (Foretress vs fire or whatnot). Would make it way to easy to kill many dual-type pokemon, as they often have a quad weakness.

[Mega Horny]

In terms of RL's question at the approval tower, its probably becuase Aggron is so versatile -- it has powerful moves of almost every type and its also one of my favorite pokemon. My brother's favorite pokemon too. Althought its stats in the games arent too hot it can finally put its wide movepool to use in ASB. Plus its mega horny.

[Myster Myuu]

Speaking of nice move pools, I noticed something today. Sandshrew has a surprisingly impressive and large arsenal of moves. Now Shrewy is my 2nd favorite pokemon (can you guess my favorite? ) But I never realized how many attack he had access to. Granted, they are mostly Normal Ground and Rock.. but there are still some nice little trinkets in there. I will always believe that Sandshrew should be able to learn the Elemental punches, though... I mean seriously.. he has arms! Can you imagine a Sandlsash swinging those sharp claws at you while they're seething with firey energy? Can you say hot butter knife?

[Mega Horny]

Muk is extremely Versatile. Great Movepool and the ability to shrink down and slink around on the ground as liquid. Go muk.

[Elec Man EXE]

Just out of curiosity, what does everyone usually ref as far as energy cost?

Right now I'm using 8% for very powerful attacks (Fire Blast and the like, 120'ish power), 7% for powerful (Flamethrower and such), 6% for semi-powerful (Flame Wheel), and so on.

I'm noticing that a lot of my battles that I ref seem to rapidly deplete energy, so I'm thinking maybe I'm reffing it a bit high for energy cost.

One more question as well... how do you ref same-type attacks (Squirtle using Water Gun and whatnot). More damage, or a lower energy cost?

[Chris 2.1]

Id say Squirtle using water pulse is normal; however a Zangoose using it might tire easier.

[Dark Dragonite]

I used to ref it depending on what pokemon was using the move, what the arena was, and weather, plus all sorts of variables, if it was hard to perform, like throwing a heavy pokemon, lol, this is why I am not currently a ref, I'm not back into the swing of everything that needs to be factored in.
Teleport, I've found recently, takes a lot more energy than I had thought originally, but I aggree with it completely, even an alakazam would use a good portion to teleport itself...
Uh-oh, I think I just thought of a new combo, like my acid rain... >: )

[Mega Horny]

^ exactly, but I usually ref stuff like Thunder at 10% energy and stuff like thunderbolt at 7-8%.

[Ace64]

My costs are the same as yours, Elec.Same-type attacks cost less energy like Chris said, but I don't add more damage, unless it's against a type that is weaker to it. I've found that listing the energy and health costs in a reffing makes it easier to tell whether you're taking off too much energy/damage.

[Chris 2.1]

I think my teams getting so big I will get ONE more Pokemon. And I'll evolve all the others. Any ideas what I should get? I've NO IDEA :-/

Meanwhile I nearly have my kanto-starters trio of Blastoise Charizard and Venusaur! I think I need to give my other Pokemon some expirence; Aron, Pikachu, Graveller, Dragonair, Ivysaur to name but a few!

[Dark Dragonite]

my old team was huge, my current is 5, soon will be 6 when I decide who to get, there's about 10 I can think of wanting right now:
Smeargle
Kecleon
Skarmory
Koffing
Nincada
Eevee
etc...
what I'm deciding now, is until another match finishes, I have a choice of 1 of 3 big guys I'm loving right now:
Duskull(thanks Chris)
Sableye(thanks Emerald)
Gulpin(Thanks again Emerald)

[RaZoR LeAf]

In my old team, I had 4 more pokemon than I do now. So I'm still behind. I've been thinking of selling/trading Horsea. I wanted a Kingdra originally, but when it comes down to it, I haven't used it yet, mainly because purely aquatic okemon aren't as useful as ones that can go on land. So I've been thinking of maybe a Gyarados, or a Kingler.

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Kingler is awesome, pick him. I caught a Goldeen lately, Seaking rocks.

Also Chris I'd go for Pinsir, that way you can Double Battle with Pinser and Heracross. ^^

[Dark Dragonite]

what you have to do is what I plan on having atleast one of, a mainly water based arena, then pokemon like qwilfish, tentacool, and wingull will be usefull

[Chris 2.1]

Hmm Heracross is a better Pinser IMHO. I might get a bird, since I have no actual bird Pokemon (though Anemos, Saurio, Delicaza and Lagarto can fly).

I'm considering a Glalie. And I may trade away Primeape. Another possiblity is a Swalot.

[Mega Horny]

No, dont pick Kingler. I want to catch one soon. I am currently in the middle of a point hiatus, but i've been planning on catching a wide variety of pogeys, many of them water. Deciding who to choose first is difficult.

[Chris 2.1]

No, dont pick Kingler. I want to catch one soon.

Despite the new craze, it's possible for more than one person to have the same ASB Pokemon. Try it

[The Blue Avenger]

I think you should get another Ghost, one that focuses on attacking to complement your defensive Dusclops. So maybe Gengar or Banette.

[Chris 2.1]

Im a fan of Banette, they look pretty creepy. But I'm not all that sure. I may get a Hitmon, since I'm planning on saying goodbye to Bruno the Primeape eventually (just gone off the Pokemon...I'm giving him a match against Dark Sage's Ludicolo though).

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Yeah, nobody has hitmon for now. Primeape is kewl, are you so bored of him? Also, Banette would be cool, it'd suit your Dusclops fine.

Also, I find it strange that nobody (besides Girafarig who only visited this place for a week) has thought of being a mono-type trainer.