World of Warcraft: Take 2

[Last Exile]

My guild has now beaten Ragnaros twice before the Sons appear. As Raz said, Rag is about, DPS, gear and knowing where the Sons spawn. You gotta lay your Hutner slowing traps, keep the Warriors alive, let mana classes keep away from the Sons, Druids go Dire Bear to avoid mana burns and to help Warriors.

Build up a stack of Greater Fire Protection Potions as well. My guild's gotten to the stage where we don't ened them anymore but that's because of Tier 2 gear. When you're still on Tier 1 and blues, you need those potions. They save you so much healing and prevent accidental deaths.

We're currently trying to build up enough Nature Resistance to be able to beat Princess Huhuran. She is so much worse than Rag. Incurable poisons, Wyvern Sting, Berserker Frenzy, Poison Bolts and a REALLY big stinger... ><. You have to farm Maraudon and a bit of 4 Dragons and earlier AQ40 to get the gear to beat her. She is so much worse than Rag ever could be.

[Leon-IH]

She is so much worse than Rag ever could be.

Allow me to point you in the direction of the original semi-indestructable unstoppable OMG ragnaros that nobody killed

[Last Exile]

Allow me to point you in the direction of the original semi-indestructable unstoppable OMG ragnaros that nobody killed

Huhuran is worse. Also, at least for Ragnaros you could craft FR gear. You can't craft NR gear for Huhuran.

[Leon-IH]

Also, at least for Ragnaros you could craft FR gear. You can't craft NR gear for Huhuran.

Huhuran has been downed, old rag never got below about 60% from my understanding.

I somehow don't think that crafted gear was really that much of a bonus on old rag, apparently he wtfpwnt everything anyway.

[Razola]

Putting needed gear on outdoor raid bosses. Brilliant!

[Red Angel]

Old Rag was limited by unresistable magma splashes (ones that could randomly insta-gib people regardless of gear or FR) and his aggro radius was the size of the room, which limited him to 1 attempt per reset.

[Craig]

Boots - Hive Tunneler's Boots

My guild went to AQ20 and our feral druid got these just a few days ago

http://www.thottbot.com/?i=52540 Less stamina, but more str and agi. You should go for these, they are the sex.

Have you seen the Illegal Danish video? Theres one scene that probably applies to you quite well.. Stop being racist, racist against what?! Druids..FERAL DRUIDS.

[Last Exile]

Huhuran finally downed. ^^ 3.5 hours straight of wipes of 3%, 2%, 1%, .5%, .25% finally turn to success.

[FTorchicX]

So far our guild is still stuck on Razorgore. We have the strategy down, it's just a combination of people being MC loot whores and only showing for that, or just constantly new people showing up who haven't had any hands-on experience with the strat. We've gotten down to 37% so far, and I hope we finally down him soon so we can continue further into BWL.

[Ninetales3001]

OoOOooh nice, a WoW thread. >:D

I've been playing since US release, and since then I have two accounts (one for US one for EU) and three 60's. One Druid, and Two Priest. I play the Alliance side, my main is my Nelf Druid Mirka on Proudmoore US; my alt there in Passive, my Nelf Priest. My Troll Priest, also named Passive (I suck with original names) is on my EU account, though I've lent that account to my friend who hates her Warrior and wants to play a Priest, lol.

My main's guild is in BWL now, upto Firemaw. We're so killing him this Saturday, I can feel it. :)

[Leon-IH]

Proudmoore eh Nine? I'm on PM too (Erbion, 60 cow shaman).

I'm guessing you raid with Vigilance (progression thread ftw haha).

[Last Exile]

Scored Taut Dragonhide Shoulders from Chromaggus in Blackwing Lair today, my first BWL loot.

This is crazy. Since I've joined this guild I've scored 6 feral epics and just the 1 resto epic. I've seen 3 stormrage pieces total drop in 6 BWL runs, no SR pants in 5 MC runs, no resto rings/trinkets/necks from BWL or AQ in any of the six runs.

I bloody need resto gear bad but it never drops.

However, I've decided to go a bit weird on resto armor. Stormrage COver, Leggings and Handguards are the only 3 SR i want now. I want cloth bracers (Bracers of Royal Redemption) and chest (Robes of the Guardian Saint) from AQ, cloth boots (Boots of Pure Thought) from BWL, Wild Growth Spaulders from MC and Regenerating Belt of Bek'nilash from AQ.

EDIT: Luck finally came my way resto style. Got stuck in a power surge and a queue for 3 hours to get into the MC run at Domo point. Rag kill - Stormrage pants drop for only the 2nd time in the guild's 18 month history. I have most dkp. They be mine. ^^ With ZG enchanted goodness. 8274 mana self buffed. Loving it.

[Leon-IH]

Tonight it took me 20 minutes to complete my priest alt's bwl attunement.

New Hamsters on the wheel please blizzard?

[Red Angel]

Yes, feed the hamsters for the love of whatever you hold sacred. And then water them.

We had to call off MC because the lag was so bad the tanks had no idea what the mobs were doing, Aimed Shots were taking 10 seconds to fire, etc, etc. On the upside, Razorgore is really easy with lag

[Last Exile]

Weird weekend. I had the ultimate druid dilemna.

Ebronoc loot - Stormrage Handguards, Malfurion's Blessed Bulwark

I only had enough dkp to get 1...

I got the SR gloves. I needed them more. I can wait for the chest. I needed the extra 15% mana regen from 3 set bonus for SR.

And yesterday guild did nefarian on an off day and the druid feral boots dropped . No one wanted them. They would have been mine. ><

Ah well, lfie goes on.

[Razola]

Stat-wise, the Bulwark was the better choice. The bulwark ONLY drops off Ebonroc, whereas each of the three drakes has a chance to drop the SR gloves.

You'll most likely see the handguards many times before another Bulwark drops.

[Last Exile]

I forgot one important fact.

The other guy had 0.5 dkp more than me.

I think he'd have gone all out if I forced him to.

That's why I went gloves. Pity I can't get the chest but the upside is no one else in the guild wants it so as long as I'm at Ebonroc kills, the next one is mine.

And well, as for SR, as I said before, a piece of SR drops for my guild in BWL every 1-1.5 runs on average. The guild hadn't seen SR gloves in over 10 runs so it was kind of a rarity for us.

The other problem was SR gloves bidding came before Bulwark bidding so I had no idea to test him on the chest first. However, since I got those gloves I've jumped way up the healing chart. My mana regen seems to be giving me an edge now. Only the hardcore priests and paladins outdid me tonight.

[Razola]

Cenarion to Stormrage is rarely a massive upgrade (barring +healing, the stat improvements for the shoulders are in the single digits). The bulwark, however, is a massive upgrade from stuff like...Warbear Harness or the PvP chestpiece. Gauntlets of New Life off Ossirian would have only had about 16 or so less healing and that's about it.

You seem to have it well-planned, so I guess it works out in the end.

[Last Exile]

Finally hit Neutral with the Brood of Nozdormu today and claimed my first free ring from Anachronos. The healing ones all the way to Exalted are a joke compared to Pure Elementium Band and Cauterising Band so I've gone down the Conqueror Line and took the feral/tank one.

+10 Strength, +18 Stamina, +5 Defense. That's just the neutral one. The exalted one is twice as good.

[FTorchicX]

Sabatons of the Flamewalker finally dropped in Molten Core on Saturday night. Since it was my turn in the rotation and no Hunters wanted them, I got them by default.

One less piece I need to worry about. =) Now I've just gotta pray that the QSR and the CoD drop in the next run, and I'll have every enhancement piece that I want (aside from another Enhancement Shaman who's activity is rather spotty, I'm the only one).

[Razola]

Do you have Sufuras yet?

[Last Exile]

got the new +30 healing to gloves enchant today on my SR gloves.

[Craig]

Our guild doesn't use a bidding system, its just set costs (With diminishing returns if you are over 600 dkp) ... if the item is mage/warlock, the top of each class pool will random 1/100 eachother.

I forgot to mention, but we killed Ragnaros last saturday night.

I guess i'm slowly getting epix. I have about 6 now.

I'm not really a fan of 1.10 patch. Every hunter I see in the BGs has a new fangled diseased boar. I'm being hit with "holy fire" wtf is that?

[Razola]

Holy spell that does damage with a minor dot. Use to be a talent in the Holy tree, but most people didn't get it since, duuuuuh, Holy is for healing and not damage. With 1.10 it's a spell available to all priests at level 20.

[FTorchicX]

Do you have Sufuras yet?

Whoops, make that 3 then. Though I'm not getting my hopes up on Sulfuras.

[Last Exile]

Last 3 days:

Monday - Malfurion's Blessed Bulwark, Boots of the Shadow Flame
Tuesday - Shard of the Flame
Wednesday - Gloves of Enforcement

Yeah, I did plan it out, Raz.

[Razola]

You beat the spread!

[Red Angel]

Last few days have been crazy. We finally beat Vael again (killed him once, were having serious problems taking him again), and then Broodlord in one attempts, then all three Drakes the next day, and now Skeram today. It's like the guild woke up from a long sleep

[Last Exile]

That's typical actually. Almost every guild hits a wall at Vaelstrasz. My current guild, before I joined them, they were stuck on Vael at at breaking point. When they got him, they completed BWL 2 weeks later. Vael and Firemaw are the testers. In reality once you learn the Nef fight he becomes the 2nd easiest boss in BWL after Ebonroc.

Skeram just requires coordination. If people tank properly, heal properly and clal the fake ones early, it's an easy fight.

[Razola]

Vael can be very luck-based. Too many of a certain class gets BA and it's Game Over. For example, obviously too many healers getting BA early is bad, but this applies to dps as well since you'll have healers, rogues, and no ranged dps beyond that. Priests are also vital, ESPECIALLY with the new Holy Nova. We lack priests, and it shows (we require 10 wipes before Vael kills).

Once you start clearling BWL, it'll get easier since your dps has better toys. But early on, it fucking sucks.

[Last Exile]

Even the best looted up guilds still wipe on Vael.

This is how I rate the BWL bosses difficulty wise: (hardest to easiest)

Vaelstrasz
Chromaggus
Firemaw
Nefarian
Broodlord
Razorgore
Flamegor
Ebonroc

As for AQ:

C'Thun
Twin Emperors
Princess Huhuran
Battleguard Sartura
Fankriss the Unyielding
The Prophet Skeram
The Triumvirate

[Craig]

I am posting, to let all you guys know.. that yes the Hunter epic bow quest is AWFUL ! It was terribly designed..and generally just stupid.

Last night "IN THE CORE" I could have walked out with the following items:

GS Boots
GS Shoulders
Wristguards of True Flight
Leaf
Crown of Destruction

However..only the leaf dropped! Go me! I didn't even want it that much..being a fickle dwarf who already gots a Blastershot.

[Leon-IH]

Took my warrior pvping today and got reminded -exactly- why I stopped pvping so much on him.

Kited by Hunter. Kited by Mage. Kited by Warlock. Tanked by Priest. Kited by Druid. Bored to Death by Paladin.

[Last Exile]

Finally got my AQ40 mount today. Won roll on a Blue Qiraji Resonating Crystal, allowing me to ride on a Blue Qiraji Silithid anywhere in there. Saves a crapload of time fro not haivng to walk.

[Red Angel]

I seriously can't wait until my server gets some new hardware (or the instance server attatched to it). Blackwing Lair is unplayayble at peak hours - sure, Razorgore is easier due to the lag, but Vael is impossible when a Rogue takes 5 seconds to backstab and your first tank blows up every other tank because by the time the server got around to informing them they had BA, it was too late. Ugh.

In other news, 5/8 GS done It's funny because I'm so ridiculously negative in DKP right now - I've been in the guild forever, but I only reallly started raiding consistently over the last couple months, which means very little competition for loot from the other hunters.

[Razola]

Even the best looted up guilds still wipe on Vael.

This is how I rate the BWL bosses difficulty wise: (hardest to easiest)

Vaelstrasz
Chromaggus
Firemaw
Nefarian
Broodlord
Razorgore
Flamegor
Ebonroc

As for AQ:

C'Thun
Twin Emperors
Princess Huhuran
Battleguard Sartura
Fankriss the Unyielding
The Prophet Skeram
The Triumvirate

Broodlord is NOT harder than Razorgore. We downed him on the 2nd or 3rd try. Not sure if I'd put him above the two drakes or not....Ebonroc and Flamegor are easy as shit, too.

[Red Angel]

Broodlord is NOT harder than Razorgore. We downed him on the 2nd or 3rd try. Not sure if I'd put him above the two drakes or not....Ebonroc and Flamegor are easy as shit, too.

Exactly. We 1-shotted Broodlord, and it took us weeks to get Razor down.

[Last Exile]

Healers have to be far more attentive to Broodlord than Razorgore. Razorgore is casual as. Broodlord actually requires some focus on my part. Whenever BWL starts I generally wake up when we hit Vael.

See the cave-in by Blizzard? Death & Taxes threatened to delete all their accounts if AQ40 wasn't nerfed and they got their wish.

[PNT510]

[b]Death and Taxes is a guild right? Do you honestly think Blizzard would nerf a raid dungeon because a small handfull of players demanded it?

[Leon-IH]

Healers have to be far more attentive to Broodlord than Razorgore. Razorgore is casual as. Broodlord actually requires some focus on my part. Whenever BWL starts I generally wake up when we hit Vael.

The question is; are you doing that list from -your- perspective or from a -raid- perspective?