World of Warcraft: Take 2

[Last Exile]

Stage 2 offers a few problems. Priest, Mage and Warlock calls really suck. Shaman and Paladin are crappy too. Druid is hilarious.

[Red Angel]

Just kited Teremus the Devourer to SW because I was bored. Rank 1 Arcane Shot is just 10 mana with the rank 7 gloves, and I regen more than that after the 5-second rule before the next Arcane Shot. I'll try taking him to IF next time, or maybe even the Undercity.

[Last Exile]

My guild just got all 4 of the 4 Dragons. I scored Boots of Fright. And for once, the loot was really good all up.

Ysondre - Staff of Rampant Growth x 2
Taerar - Boots of Fright, DE item
Emeriss - Circlet of Restless Dreams, Gloves of Delusional Power
Lethon - Black Bark Wristguards, Acid Inscribed Pauldrons

[Craig]

I'm thinking of rolling a druid, and when the expansion comes out taking that character to 70 first instead of my hunter. This is mainly because I really liked the class to begin with, but not enough if I was going to be pretty much conformed to 31 restoration spec.

Raz and Exile I know you guys are already druids... I have a few questions.

In cat/bear form, does the stats(dps and speed) of your weapon matter AT ALL? Or is it simply the bonuses you get? Will a Warden Staff always be the best bear form weapon because of its armour and defense? Would a druid with HAND OF RAG do the same DPS in cat form do the same dps as a cat with a weapon that gave the exact same bonuses just had vastly less DPS? I've heard different answers.

What are the "Must have" Talents? Currently, i'm thinking of speccing like this as if I were level 60.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/...55100100310000

What would I put the last 2 points in ? What is the "omg teh suk" ? Anything?

[Red Angel]

In cat/bear form, does the stats(dps and speed) of your weapon matter AT ALL? Or is it simply the bonuses you get? Will a Warden Staff always be the best bear form weapon because of its armour and defense? Would a druid with HAND OF RAG do the same DPS in cat form do the same dps as a cat with a weapon that gave the exact same bonuses just had vastly less DPS? I've heard different answers.

Only stats matter (I play a Druid and a Hunter too, actually ). Weapon speed and DPS is irrelevant - Cat is fixed at 1.0 speed, (Dire) Bear at 2.5. Procs on weapons don't matter either, but procs on armor can go off in forms.

As for your spec, I had it for a good month or two after 1.8, and... it's mediocre. It doesn't really excell at anything, though it's passable at a bunch of things. Much better to go for a focused spec. Heavy resto is actually quite passable at PvP, if you know how to use it - it has amazing endurance, but weak offense. Heavy feral, on the other hand, has amazing burst, but lacks staying power.

Honestly, wait till 1.11 and the free Innervate before picking a spec.

[Last Exile]

I currently use Hammer of Bestial Fury for my Feral gear. It gives me +154 Attack Power in my feral forms. It rocks. I hope to eventually get Blessed Qiraji War Hammer, which gives +280 Attack Power in Feral forms.

But as for what you could use yourself, maybe The Unstoppable Force, Warden Staff. Not really many you can get unless you can get into the epic instances.

Here's a link with tier 3 set designs and item info:

http://www.whataboutpp.com/tier-3.php

Set bonuses for Druids are very good - for once. However, it's a purely healing set so it'll be 2 sets of gear needed as always.

[Leon-IH]

Shaman set is retarded, unless totemic power has a decent proc rate and time up it's a pretty worthless bonus.

[Red Angel]

This is funny. It took me two hours to get my character list. Then it took me five minutes to enter world (as opposed to one minute usually). Then when I logged in, I found that my custom chat logs broke and I had to reset them all. Then I couldn't rez at my corpse. Or log out. And hell, I couldn't talk in /g because WoW claimed I wan't guilded. I'm going to dust off the old 486 downstairs and offer it to Blizzard, free of charge. They could use some new hardware.

[Razola]

I see you're still as stupid as ever.

On the talent tree. 10 points is 2 sets of talents.
Which would be, what, class?
Right before it.

And YOU not having Innervate means they don't need Innervate ever at all on any Druid that they ever encounter and don't care if they never see its' benefits ever in their entire guild run even when their priests are running low on Mana and could use an Inntervate right quick? Oh right, no it doesn't. Because ONE guild not needing it and the skill being almost necessary are two totally different things.


Jesus you're even an obnoxious jackass when people are siding with you until you can disagree with them HERE.

Man, I love working with the mentally handicapped. It makes a person feel good inside to reach out and help the FUCKING RETARDED.

Two talents sets is not "right before it. 30 Points is "right before it. And either way, Twenty-One Points doesn't get you innervate. The whole point of my post. Now if you have found a way to get innervate with 21 points in Resto, feel free to tell me. It'll be nice to have until 1.11.

Now, in the real world we do things like "Speak from experience". It bolsters your viewpoint by included such examples. And from my experience, we have yet to see a boss that requires Innervate. Have you had Brilliant Mana Oil and Mageblood Potions on you? Through in that Sagefish food and you have shitloads of mana regen. You have to be wasteful as hell to go oom with that shit on you. And in the six minutes of Innervate you can down three mana pots and be fine. There's also around 400 or so mana from Night's Dragon Breath.

Useful. Duh. Neccesary? No, Innervate is not needed for ANYTHING.

[Last Exile]

Innervate is just for greedy filthy pedophile Priests.

[Red Angel]

Patch 1.11 PTRs are up.

In other news, Blizzard's downloader sucks. Badly.

[Razola]

Innervate is just for greedy filthy pedophile Priests.

I innervate shaman.

[Leon-IH]

I innervate shaman.

I get innervates sometimes, kinda helpful when I'm healing entire boss fights

[Razola]

Shaman provide Mana Tide, so it's only fair.

[Hatake Kakashi]

And from my experience, we have yet to see a boss that requires Innervate

A bad pull.
Your first time against a boss.
A horribly timed critical.
One too many Crit Heals(requiring massive healing/mana sucking)
New MT.
New DPS.
Anyone in the group is low on mana/mana pots and the battle isn't near over.
DPS pulls aggro.
Taunt is resisted.
Anyone else pulls aggro for any reason.
Anyone needs more healing than usual for any reason whatsoever.


Yeah there's no reason to bother with Innervate. Nope. There's no way it'd ever be needed for any reason under any circumstance. I must say you certainly know how to play a Druid as long as everything go perfectly. Nope, mana regen buffing is never nice to have.

[PNT510]

A bad pull.
Your first time against a boss.
A horribly timed critical.
One too many Crit Heals(requiring massive healing/mana sucking)
New MT.
New DPS.
Anyone in the group is low on mana/mana pots and the battle isn't near over.
DPS pulls aggro.
Taunt is resisted.
Anyone else pulls aggro for any reason.
Anyone needs more healing than usual for any reason whatsoever.


Yeah there's no reason to bother with Innervate. Nope. There's no way it'd ever be needed for any reason under any circumstance. I must say you certainly know how to play a Druid as long as everything go perfectly. Nope, mana regen buffing is never nice to have.

[b]Come on, did you even listen to Raz? He never said there is no reason to bother with it. He said it was useful. But claiming you need a skill just because you have a new MT or because you're inexperinced vs a new boss is kinda dumb.

[Razola]

I guess if your raid sucks, then innervate is required. But for the rest of us, it's just something nice to have.

[Hatake Kakashi]

I guess if your raid sucks, then innervate is required. But for the rest of us, it's just something nice to have.

I'm not saying you definitively suck if you don't get it(And if I did, I was being a bit hasty), but if you're going Resto right now, there's really no reason to avoid it. Can't you get the Int bonus from Feral WITH Innverate? Or whatever you need in Balance?(I've only had experience playing my friends Resto Druid. So I have experience as a Druid/healer, but not as a Druid in whole).

But claiming you need a skill just because you have a new MT or because you're inexperinced vs a new boss is kinda dumb

It's liek wearing a helmet riding your bike on a new path. Do you really wanna risk it?

Granted if you wipe at Lucifron, you don't suffer brain damage...unless you listen to some Raid leaders.

[Razola]

You fucking don't even play a druid. Stop talking.

EDIT: A helmet is not required to actually make the bike go. It's just...a nice thing to have! Wow, thanks for backing me up.

[Hatake Kakashi]

Which is the fucking point I was trying to make, but you insisted on being an obtuse jackass about it. And still do, apparently.

And I have played a Druid. Enough to know what the fuck does and does not help while Healing.

[PNT510]

[b]He never once said it wasn't a nice thing to have. He was just saying it wasn't needed. Which it isn't.

[Leon-IH]

Can't you get the Int bonus from Feral WITH Innverate?

No, it's a tier 6 talent.

I'm not a druid (of any decent level anyway), but at least I can use a talent calculator.



My raid group has only _needed_ innervate once (3 priests on geddon is NASTY).

[Razola]

Which is the fucking point I was trying to make, but you insisted on being an obtuse jackass about it. And still do, apparently.

And I have played a Druid. Enough to know what the fuck does and does not help while Healing.

Why are you arguing against yourself now?

[Last Exile]

Who cares, it's a normal talent once 1.11 is up so bloody chill and shut up.

Check out whataboutpp.com for the 1.11 enchants, improved rank 12-14 epics and new ones for Battlegrounds, Nax attunement, etc. Looks good except for the Druid Rank 12-13 gear still being pointless.

[Razola]

GOt my Bulwark last night; now just working on CC rep for my mace and AB rep for my shoulders.

[Hatake Kakashi]

So I need some help.

I pretty much inherited a 60 Troll Shaman(but to keep from being "handed" a 60, I'm still getting my mage and new Hunter up to 60) but I've never played a Shaman past level 6. So does anyone know of any good guides to help me(for lack of a better term) learn2play? Or got any tips?

So far it's pretty basic:
Smack things.
Earth Shock every now and then.
Heal when low(Lesser Healing Wave++)
Ghost Wolf to chase.

But what about raiding, 5-mans, etc? I really don't wanna go into Scholo and tell everyone "Hey guys this is my first time as a Shaman" because...well, I'll probably get booted.

[Craig]

zomg. I've had my druid for a few days now (a week at most?? I don't know) and i'm about level 30 now.

this shit is fun

Definitely going to be 0/30/21 when the patch comes. Heart of the wild ftw! I was thinking of getting the peeveepee gear. I can only wait to be a raging kitten badass sporting hand of justice and the elementals deck trinket.

[Asilynne]

Hey guys I just got the net so I can finally play WoW but everytime I try to make an account it gives me an error message, Im not sure if its just the site right now or what. It says HTTP ERROR 500 and all of this stuff:

javax.servlet.ServletException: Servlet.init() for servlet action threw exception
org.apache.catalina.authenticator.AuthenticatorBas e.invoke(AuthenticatorBase.java:540)
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke (ErrorReportValve.java:117)
org.apache.coyote.tomcat5.CoyoteAdapter.service(Co yoteAdapter.java:160)
org.apache.jk.server.JkCoyoteHandler.invoke(JkCoyo teHandler.java:300)
org.apache.jk.common.HandlerRequest.invoke(Handler Request.java:374)
org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.invoke(ChannelS ocket.java:743)
org.apache.jk.common.ChannelSocket.processConnecti on(ChannelSocket.java:675)
org.apache.jk.common.SocketConnection.runIt(Channe lSocket.java:866)
org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlR unnable.run(ThreadPool.java:683)
java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:534)

Any help would be great ^-^()

UPDATE: Never mind my friend told me that Blizzards is upgrading something or other and so create an account is disabled for now, hopefully up tomorrow though ^,-,^

[Hatake Kakashi]

What timezone are you in? WoW goes down every Tuesday for maintenance, so that might have been the issue.

[Last Exile]

Had a real stroke of luck in AQ40 last night. Twin Emps kill #2:

Vek'nilash - Regenerating Belt of Vek'nilash
Vek'lor - Qiraji Executioner Bracers

Both mine for minimum dkp. My +healing is now up to 757.

[Razola]

Interesting choice of signature.

[Last Exile]

Why thank you.

[Leon-IH]

PvP Sets getting buffed? I'M EXCITED!

Last Exile's Sig? I'm.. not so excited.

[Last Exile]

PvP Sets getting buffed? I'M EXCITED!

Last Exile's Sig? I'm.. not so excited.

Druid PvP sets are still crap as ever - I'm not excited.
Last Exile's Sig - I'M EXCITED!

[Razola]

I only use two pieces of the blue set for the attack power bonus. The gloves are getting more armor and actually will have intellect on them. The pants lose dodge, which sucks, but the spell crit is arguably better and shit I'll be pushing 9k armor in feral PvP gear. And that's without everything being maxed-out purple.

[Last Exile]

http://www.curse-gaming.com/en/news-...materials.html

So this is what is in store to get tier 3? I'm not excited....

[Red Angel]

I find it funny that the raiders were quite alright with the mats cost on the t.5 sets, but the minute they need to just through the same hoops...

[Last Exile]

I find it funny that the raiders were quite alright with the mats cost on the t.5 sets, but the minute they need to just through the same hoops...

I was never okay with the costs for 0.5. I never did that chain and never will. It is a rip-off.

[Red Angel]

I was never okay with the costs for 0.5. I never did that chain and never will. It is a rip-off.

I'm not saying you were, but a lot of people who said "it's fine, lrn2play" to people complaining about .5 are now whining themselves.

[Craig]

So my druid is level 45 now. Its hella fun! I modified what my "future" spec will be to 0/30/21 I think. Tanking bear ftw Its amazing, my second character.. I made like 240 gold by the time I was level 40, on my first.. I was scrounging up money, and borrowing from friends to get my mount. I've been just getting feral gear, but still apparently good enough to be the only healer in a ZF group with no deaths Im using rank 1 ressurect though, fuck spending money reagants at this point!