World of Warcraft: Take 2

**Razola** · 9th February 2005, 02:54 AM

The recent fad is for warlocks to take their pets into the AH and let them go wild. Of course, I've been avoiding Ironforge for some time now. Besides being a black hole of lag and stupidity, my money is very unsafe there. I can easily blow 50g on the dumbest non-equipment items.

**PNT510** · 9th February 2005, 06:10 PM

I just discovered the AH yesterday. the 5 gold I had went bye bye quickly, but I got awesome new gear.

**The Muffin Man** · 16th February 2005, 05:11 PM

I'm just not feeling WoW.

Currently I play a Dwarf Paladin and on a PvP server a Human Priest. The Paladin is fun, but the quests all seem to keep my anchored to Ironforge and the surrounding areas, where people are all Gnome mages, or Human/Night elf Hunters and Rogues. I think I've seen ONE other Paladin. I want to leave Ironforge but everyone tells me "No no just keep doing the quests."

For what? Half the time I have to talk to 900 NPCs for stupid bullshit information just to find ONE PERSON who'll tell me where to go. And the other half of the time I have to go into the middle of this obnoxious cave, run around for an hour and a half, and be rewarded with 30 Copper and a staff. I don't need this shit.

So when I get back to WoW(at my friends house, but i have played a fair bit to judge the early game) I'm going to either just level my Pally like I do in every other MMORPG(fight for levels) or stick with my priest. If neither works in helping keep me occupied, then I might just have less competition for CoH when I actually upgrade my computer/get a new one.

**Dark Scizor** · 16th February 2005, 05:36 PM

I can say that installation is a bitch on a 56k. This bittorrent wannabe is sucking up all my bandwidth for a miniscule 2-4kbs download from other peers. Not only that, it is preventing me from opening websites because of the vampiric hogging of my download bandwidth so it's taking an age to open a website as opposed to the download slowing down, the rest of the internet is slowing down lol

Is anyone playing the EU servers at all?

**PNT510** · 16th February 2005, 07:16 PM

I ganked my first horde today. A level 32 Warlock with Rez sickness.

**Razola** · 16th February 2005, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by The Muffin Man

I'm just not feeling WoW.

Currently I play a Dwarf Paladin and on a PvP server a Human Priest. The Paladin is fun, but the quests all seem to keep my anchored to Ironforge and the surrounding areas, where people are all Gnome mages, or Human/Night elf Hunters and Rogues. I think I've seen ONE other Paladin. I want to leave Ironforge but everyone tells me "No no just keep doing the quests."

This is no different than CoH (or any other MMO) that keeps you in the zone appropriate for your level. I don't recall leaving Galaxy City/Atlas Park in CoH until my contacts gave me missions in other zones.

You CAN go to other places. If you are still questing in Dun Morogh, you can try out Teldrasil or Elwynn Forest. If you are in Loch Modan, try out Westfall (highly reccomended since it gives you the first taste of Instances) or Darkshore.

You have options, but quest-givers early on are going to keep you in the surrounding areas due to ease.

EDIT: And if you don't like WoW's quests, I don't see how CoH is going to be any better. I like both, but CoH is the same "Kill these guys! Talk to Joe Bob!" for the similar rewards.

**The Muffin Man** · 17th February 2005, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Razola

This is no different than CoH (or any other MMO) that keeps you in the zone appropriate for your level. I don't recall leaving Galaxy City/Atlas Park in CoH until my contacts gave me missions in other zones.

You CAN go to other places. If you are still questing in Dun Morogh, you can try out Teldrasil or Elwynn Forest. If you are in Loch Modan, try out Westfall (highly reccomended since it gives you the first taste of Instances) or Darkshore.

You have options, but quest-givers early on are going to keep you in the surrounding areas due to ease.

EDIT: And if you don't like WoW's quests, I don't see how CoH is going to be any better. I like both, but CoH is the same "Kill these guys! Talk to Joe Bob!" for the similar rewards.

Actually ever who's played CoH has told me that it's less "Go here, talk to him, do this, bring that here, THEN go on the quest" and a bit more "Go here, further a story that isn't just 'HOLY SHIT HE WAS KILLED'"

I'm in it more for a quest that doesn't seem slapped together. WoW quests just feel like they're happening for no reason. I don't mind the "Kill these" quests, because on top of finding good drops and gaining money/exp, I'm completing the quest for more money. It's essentially "Level up on these monsters and then come back to me and get more experience." And I like that. But I don't like having to continue a quest for the same thing("walk 4 feet, get that rune, walk 4 feet back to me, walk 8 feet and go straight down to him and show him the rune. Walk halfway across Loch Modan to revive this guy who doesn't seem to be anywhere near where they said") that essentially leads me on a wild goose chase.

And the hell with Elite Monsters. People on Battle.net are idiots.
"But so are people on CoH!"
Yes but I havn't experienced it yet. So it's different.

**Razola** · 17th February 2005, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by The Muffin Man

Actually ever who's played CoH has told me that it's less "Go here, talk to him, do this, bring that here, THEN go on the quest" and a bit more "Go here, further a story that isn't just 'HOLY SHIT HE WAS KILLED'"

The story in WoW is quite nice, though it takes some time to get to some of the better stories. Un' Goro Crater is like Blizzard's love letter to Nintendo. There is a big, long chain of quests that is a homage to Zelda. The pop culture references are very clever at times.

As for Warcraft itself, you'll learn all about the fate of Stormwind's King early on, and Duskwood is ripe with flavor and storylines. One quest in particular has a journal that goes on for 20 pages. Another requires you to put an entire book together. I loved CoH's story arcs, and WoW doesn't dissapoint (though I've the Horde is a bit more lacking in their quests).

I'm in it more for a quest that doesn't seem slapped together. WoW quests just feel like they're happening for no reason. I don't mind the "Kill these" quests, because on top of finding good drops and gaining money/exp, I'm completing the quest for more money.

My Gnome warrior (who starts in the same area as a Dwarf in case you didn;t know) had some interesting quests before level 10 that talked about the local troll clan in the area. And for a newbie quest I found that to be satisfactory.

WoW's quest aren't usually part of some epic storyline (but then again, niether was CoH) but are a collection of stories. Sure, some are very asisnine (quests for cooking recipes, besides being a pain in the ass to do, lack very much in flavor, if you pardon the pun), but there's a lot that are very compelling if you read your quest log and pay attention. Again, zones I reccomend are:

Westfall: the whole zone is more or less centered around a band of thieves plaguing the area. I'm not going to go into too much detail, but it gives a bit of history for the humans and eventually leads to another story about the political siutation in Stormwind.
Duskwood: Full of flavor, the zone even has a mini-world event. If you are still not satisfied aftert his zone, I'm going to have to assume you are not reading your quest log and the items in your inventory.

I'm not sure what you are expecting, but WoW is a collection of stories. You got to a zone, and for the most part you deal with the most pressing issue of that zone. Sometimes you uncover something that goes beyond that area, but for the most part is fairly localized. And I like that, because it's not about one epic for your character, but the many adventures you go on.

It's essentially "Level up on these monsters and then come back to me and get more experience." And I like that. But I don't like having to continue a quest for the same thing("walk 4 feet, get that rune, walk 4 feet back to me, walk 8 feet and go straight down to him and show him the rune. Walk halfway across Loch Modan to revive this guy who doesn't seem to be anywhere near where they said") that essentially leads me on a wild goose chase.

Not all quests are going to be good. You want a shitty quest? The Scholomance key requires 15 gold to do. And I get like 600 exp for that quest. Did I mention that only one person needs a good for the group to go in, or that a rogue can just pick the lock?

And the hell with Elite Monsters. People on Battle.net are idiots.
"But so are people on CoH!"
Yes but I havn't experienced it yet. So it's different.

I shouldn't even have to tell you this, but if you need a posse, run with either of the PA guilds on Sargeras. My Horde alt is with them, and you already know how they compare to the battle.net crowd. Both guilds are large and always helpful. Twice now both guilds have successfully arranged PvP meets in Feralas and the one time I went it was a big hit. I don't know any other groups that, in an open PvP area, could have two groups that big sit and behave for several hours while arranged fights go on.

A guild can easily make or break your game. Make the smart choice.

**The Muffin Man** · 17th February 2005, 02:05 AM

Yeah I'll probably remake my priest or something on Sargera when I get my own copy of the game...I'm not on enough right now to hang out with the PA crew.

By the way, when I DO get this game for myself I was gonna make a Troll as my first Horde character. Any suggestions for class?

**Razola** · 17th February 2005, 03:42 AM

I know this a bit off topic (especially for those of you who have no idea what "PA" means), but PA's Horde guild only requires you to be one once every 21 days. They care not how much you play or have any bullshit rules like the "1337" guilds out there. Like I said earlier, my character with them is an alt, meaning I play once a week tops. And they're not even bitter about kicking you out. Unless you've been a dick, a simple tell to any high-ranking member will get you back in. Again, this is the Horde guild.

As for class, it depends on your style of play, of course. Equaled only by humans in terms of class choices, trolls obviously offer a plethora of possibilities. Let's roll by each one:

Hunter: Do you like the concept of having a pet? Unlike warlocks, you pick out your own pet from the wild and have to keep it content so that it'll deal damage and not turn on you. The Hunter is the best ranged class in the game, it's play style focused on keeping enemies far away with their pet tankings melee and, should aggro reach a certain point, a variety of slow and stun shots to slow down the mob's approach. One of the best solo classes, the hunter is also the main puller in groups. But manage your pet: one of the main causes for a wip in dungeons is some stupid shit letting their pet go wild. The Hunter is the most popular (and common) class in WoW.

Priest: This is MY class, and since I'll be 60 soon I know enough shit about it. Obviously the priests heals, but there's also the shadow side to consider. The BEST path to take until you near the level cap, going shadow let's you solo like a motherfucker, and you will be among the best PvPers in the game. So the class does offer options depending on what you like, though I will say right now the "Healing" path for priests is very underwhelming. A rare class on WoW, though gaining in numbers. For the time being, you are going to be very popular as a priest.

Shaman: Like the Druid, a hybrid class. A bit more tougher, the Shaman I probably have the LEAST experience with, but it seemes to focus less on healing and more on damage dealing/tanking than a Druid. Be forewarned that, while I find the class to be close to balanced, the legions of the Battle.net retards are many, and you'll probably face a good nerfing. This class is fairly common (mainly since it can kick ass PvP).

Warrior: Many bitch that the warrior sucks, period, but I disagree. In PvE you are THE tank, and you are in the holy trinity of classes for high level instances (Mage, Priest, Warrior). While other classes can tank, and some can even handle the damage better, the warrior is lord of aggro, and can actually keep the mobs on him. PvP is a different story, and you will suck in 1v1 battles. In group battles, where the focus of you enemies is likely elsewhere, you can deal respectable damage and chase down weakened foes. The bright side is that you can come expecting a buff. Fairly common.

Mage: The final piece of the trinity, Mages are damage gods. With insane dps for both single target and AoE, Mages are the main killers of the group (with a bit of crowd control). They are paper tigers, however, and a mage without control can and WHILE get tons of aggro, and he WHILE get mauled in seconds. And once a mage "blows his load", they are fairly useless unless they have some method to restore mana.

Rogue: Second of the damage dealers, rogues give up a bit of dps (particularly in terms of AoE) for s bit of survival. Having better armor, rogues also have what I call "Oh noes!" abilities that can get them out of many tight spots. Rogues don't have mana, and thus can be relied on for consistent damage, mainly to one target. While a mage can be depleted very quickly, a rogue will continue to produce high levels of damage until either he or the target dies. Rogues are favorites of the PvPer, mainly due to stealth, which allows them to pick and choose battles. In addition to skipping many troublesome mobs, they can also assault players at any time, normally ALWAYS getting the first hit in, be it PvP or PvE. This, however, causes Rogues to be the bastards of the game, as many do not like being ganked while fighting a boss or key mob. While many will judge PvP on a case-by-case basis, Rogues are more likely to be Kill on Sight automatically. There "might" be a nerf for rogues. Oh, and the majority of the 13-year-olds play rogues because they think stealth makes them gods by default. Just a heads up. Very common.

**The Muffin Man** · 17th February 2005, 08:56 AM

Hmmm...Didn't know Troll could go Priest. With their Regeneration racial feat that would make him a damn good healer...

For my character(Since I can apparently make a Troll Priest on Sargera) I'll probably make a troll Hunter...having a Raptor mount and pet would just be so damn cool.

Any ideas if I should go bow, gun, or (as I heard is possible) spear-thrower?

Sorry to ask so many questions about what should be my choice but I've just got so little experience in WoW at all.

**Razola** · 17th February 2005, 10:43 AM

The ranged weapons are throwing knives. bow, gun, and crossbow. Only mobs throw spears to me my knowledge. Knives suck, crossbows are fairly rare, so you'll basically pick gun or bow based on the best stats at the time. I'm not familar with hunter, but I don't recall there being any difference between the two.

If you pick engineering as a tradeskill, however, gun is superior since you can make ammo for it.

**PNT510** · 17th February 2005, 06:24 PM

I think Booty Bay is the coolest area in the game so far. I like how they have a large ammount of Allience and Horde characters running about so you always have to be on your toes. Me and some guidemates spent all afternoon defending a camp by a river from numerous horde.

**Lezta** · 17th February 2005, 06:25 PM

I got it. I shocked myself.

Dwarven hunter. Would have chosen something else if I'd known just how abundant the things are but oh well, I'll stick with it.

Level 9 atm, going to start getting into Leather-Working and Skinning and stuff. Seemed fitting.

It's not bad so far, getting groups at this stage is a drag but meh. I'm not on a PvP server... major fear of just randomly being mobbed while trying to do things. Probably unjustified.

Worst contructed post I've ever done I think.

**Dark Scizor** · 17th February 2005, 06:57 PM

I starting playing tonight for about an hour or two.

I'm a Night Elf Druid and level 5. So far it seems to be quite a good game, but I have yet to visit a place such as IronForge or any other realm.

**The Muffin Man** · 17th February 2005, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Scizor

I starting playing tonight for about an hour or two.

I'm a Night Elf Druid and level 5. So far it seems to be quite a good game, but I have yet to visit a place such as IronForge or any other realm.

If you do wanna make a habit of visiting Ironforge, I suggest you just get used to turning your combat log on outside of partying and looking for help.

**Last Exile** · 17th February 2005, 08:59 PM

WoW = Waste of money. Any game requring you to play for 12 hours straight to level up once you hit Level 40-50 is pathetic. Plus I see no major difference between it and Ragnarok.

Nothing special, overrated. End of story.

**Andrew** · 17th February 2005, 09:17 PM

Ryan, I haven't played the game but read a fair bit about it, and I personally think it'd be a fairly good(But there's no way in hell I could possibly get this game and a new pc in the forseeable future so I'm not really bothering to reply to the thread, yet I am kind of reading it with a kind of creepy glee). Whilst yourself, you have friends who you watch play it, and you think it's fairly bad.

I think unless you've given it a test run and found bad experiences with it, maybe dissing it isn't the best thing.

**Red Angel** · 17th February 2005, 09:48 PM

I'm enjoying WoW so far... the money is worth it. I currently have a lv19 restoration speced Nightelf Druid and I'm having a blast. I like how the quest are set up, too: the one to get my underwater form was really cool, if lengthy. It's also nice that Druids suffer from zero downtime when fighting mobs - after a battle, I can heal myself to full, shift to bear form, and take on the next mob. And by the ti me that one's dead, my man is back.

**The Muffin Man** · 17th February 2005, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Last Exile

WoW = Waste of money. Any game requring you to play for 12 hours straight to level up once you hit Level 40-50 is pathetic. Plus I see no major difference between it and Ragnarok.

Nothing special, overrated. End of story.

Ragnarok doesn't hit the "12 hours to level" until about lvl 90. Then it takes a huge dive as the experience just about doubles.
98 to 99 is supposedly twice what was gained to 98 I beleive.

**Red Angel** · 17th February 2005, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by The Muffin Man

Ragnarok doesn't hit the "12 hours to level" until about lvl 90. Then it takes a huge dive as the experience just about doubles.
98 to 99 is supposedly twice what was gained to 98 I beleive.

Oh, and let's not forget that ragnarok has no story or decent quests to speak of. Yes, I played it during open beta. Yes, it sucked after the first ten hours or so.

**PNT510** · 17th February 2005, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Last Exile

WoW = Waste of money. Any game requring you to play for 12 hours straight to level up once you hit Level 40-50 is pathetic. Plus I see no major difference between it and Ragnarok.

Nothing special, overrated. End of story.

It shouldn't take 12 hours to level up at level 40-50. Also even if it did, what would be so pathetic about it?

**Last Exile** · 17th February 2005, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by PNT510

It shouldn't take 12 hours to level up at level 40-50. Also even if it did, what would be so pathetic about it?

1. The cost of internet and phone lines
2. The user cost
3. The fact you could be doing something else and something better

**PNT510** · 17th February 2005, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Last Exile

1. The cost of internet and phone lines
2. The user cost
3. The fact you could be doing something else and something better

1. I'd say most people who play the game have broadband. So those aren't a factor.
2. Not exactly sure what you mean here, but if you mean the fact that you have to pay to play the game, so what? The game adds new content and seeing how people play these games more there is nothing wrong with paying more to play.
3. You're not forced to play the game all the time. You only wanna play the game a couple of hours a day then towards end game you gain a level or 2 a week. That's not that bad.

**Razola** · 18th February 2005, 01:49 AM

LE, I already smashed your head open with a rock in relation to why someone has to pay a monthly fee for a MMORPG, so whatever you have there is moot.

And what's this about playing for any number of hours straight to level? In the course of an hour I can easily earn a good chunk of exp by doing some quests. If I want to level REALLY fast I take 2-5 hours doing an instance with its related quests. The beauty of WoW is that the quest system is designed so you can get something done whenver you log on. I am still amazed that I can log on two hours before class and make considerable progress.

And what the **** is wrong with taking 12 hours to level anyways? This is a MMORPG, it's supposed to last you a while. This isn't Final Fantasy.

Oh, and fyi, it took me under 12 hours to go from 59 to 60. So you lose anyways.

Originally Posted by Last Exile

3. The fact you could be doing something else and something better

You mean like posting on a Pokemon Message Board? Stop spewing hypocrism and getting all arrogant.

I honestly don't give a shit if you don't like the game. Different strokes for different folks. But when you try to talk about something you clearly have have no idea about and then act as if someone's hobby is an immediate waste of time because YOU say it is, you piss me off. Greatly.

On other topics...

Booty Bay is one of the best areas for PvP, since other "neutral" cities are either very small or prone to people being jackasses with rooftop exploits.

EDIT: Your sig is also too damn big. It's a sig, not an advertisment. Programs exist that let you reduce the size.

**Last Exile** · 18th February 2005, 04:59 AM

I know next to nothing about the Internet, remember? Along with the fact I haven't been able to sue the home computer for a week? So enlighten me.

Look, I don't want to start a flame war. I just don't like the game. End of story.

**The Muffin Man** · 18th February 2005, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by Red Angel

Oh, and let's not forget that ragnarok has no story or decent quests to speak of. Yes, I played it during open beta. Yes, it sucked after the first ten hours or so.

It's gotten better, though. People are a lot less retarded(surprisingly) and the balance is slowly coming into it's own.

1. The cost of internet and phone lines
2. The user cost
3. The fact you could be doing something else and something better

1.I dunno about you but I pay for my internet connection by the month. As well as the WoW account. So playing 12 hours would be paying a dollar for every hour. And that's assuming I stop at 12 hours.
2.Already addressed this.
3.Like going into a World of Warcraft thread and declaring World of Warcraft is crap?

Look, dude, even I am not a huge WoW fan but I didn't say "Man you guys are stupid, this games shit." I said "Hey, I'm not having a lot of fun with WoW. Any ideas what I could do to kickstart my fun?"

"I don't want to start a flamewar, I just walked into this thread and declared the game was not good."

Raz, were you there at PA in the G+T forum a few days ago when someone essentially posted their FIRST post(literally signing up to do this) and said (essentially) "You guys are immature assclowns who have no socially redeeming values whatsoever and I despise you, except for the mods who I want to keep this open. Now let us have a debate about something which I am one of the few supporters"? This is essentially what it is.

LE walked in, insulted WoW and the players, and declared that it was crap and we were all pretty much wrong in our opinion.
Now he claims he never wanted to start a flamewar.

In Misc, there was a Stargate topic. I'm not a huge Stargate fan. In fact, I pretty much don't like it. Did I walk in and say "Stargate is crap. It's a waste of 30 minutes of the sci-fi channel"? No. I used my better judgement and avoided it.
You're being worse than I've EVER been. This is trolling, LE. And I think you've pissed off quite a few people to the point where you're risking your modspot. I might remind you I was demodded for less.

**Lezta** · 18th February 2005, 09:42 AM

I finally gave in and made myself a Dwarven Paladin (Delanor) on a PvP server.

I'm enjoying myself somewhat so far. Early levels always bore me a bit during RPGs though so meh, I know it'll get better.

**Razola** · 18th February 2005, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by Last Exile

I know next to nothing about the Internet, remember? Along with the fact I haven't been able to sue the home computer for a week? So enlighten me.

Look, I don't want to start a flame war. I just don't like the game. End of story.

Passive-aggressive much?

You come into a thread about a game you clearly know next-to-nothing about, and then say its a waste of time and bash it. Then, once the dogs are on your heel, you try to act as if you ignorance is a shield against flames. If you nothing about a game, don't fucking waltz in and act like you know all, and THEN act like you are flame-proof because you know nothing about it. It's so passive-aggressive I am stunned that it was you who said it.

And let's not forget that I have ALREADY enlightened you about how MMORPGs work, which even got local intarweb guru Chris's approval.

You trolled a thread. Don't do it again. End of story for everyone.

**MetalScyther** · 19th February 2005, 11:20 AM

Exactly how many hours does it take a week to get anything out of this?

It will cost me about $200 the first year, and if I got it, I would only be able to put maybe 4-6 hours a week.

Is it worth it?

It looks really interesting, but I dunno if I can get past the fact of how much it costs and how time-consuming it appears to be.

**The Muffin Man** · 19th February 2005, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by MetalScyther

Exactly how many hours does it take a week to get anything out of this?

It will cost me about $200 the first year, and if I got it, I would only be able to put maybe 4-6 hours a week.

Is it worth it?

It looks really interesting, but I dunno if I can get past the fact of how much it costs and how time-consuming it appears to be.

Erm...just get a month at a time?

**Leon-IH** · 19th February 2005, 11:51 PM

Well, my shaman is almost lvl 42 so I've been hopping around Gadgetzan trying to get enough Scorpion Scales to make some gloves for my friend's hunter.

WoW is only over rated in one sense: Blizzard maitenance is piss poor, every night half the realms go down for some reason, and every 3 days they go down for a bug which shouldn't be there in the first place.

**MetalScyther** · 19th February 2005, 11:59 PM

And I think that is why I probably won't get it. I used to be a really hardcore gamer, I prolley played vg 3 hours a day, which is about 20 hours a week. Now to be honest I find it a chore to play any at all. I haven't finished fable or GTA

A. I open wc3 to communicate with some buddies for an hour or two every night, but a lot of it is just talking with people and not really playing(I do play a custom wc3 map called tides of blood, about 4-6 hours as it is a week).

That's why I can't give too much thought to this game, cause I don't think I will get a lot out of it if I can't play it 4-6 hours a DAY(not week).

**PNT510** · 20th February 2005, 12:03 AM

Originally Posted by Leon-IH

Well, my shaman is almost lvl 42 so I've been hopping around Gadgetzan trying to get enough Scorpion Scales to make some gloves for my friend's hunter.

WoW is only over rated in one sense: Blizzard maitenance is piss poor, every night half the realms go down for some reason, and every 3 days they go down for a bug which shouldn't be there in the first place.

It's times like this I am glad I got the game a couple of months after everyone else, so I knew to start on a smaller server so I don't have much(still more than I think I should have) lag to deal with.

**Razola** · 20th February 2005, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by Leon-IH

WoW is only over rated in one sense: Blizzard maitenance is piss poor, every night half the realms go down for some reason, and every 3 days they go down for a bug which shouldn't be there in the first place.

I have no idea what you're complaining about. WoW is NOWHERE near as bad as the weeks of launch, where we had daily downages for over half the day. Even when we could get on, it requireds a good 30min-1hr wait IN A LINE.

There hasn't been many server downs at all, barring the weekly maintenence period. And when did you start playing? If it's anytime after late Decemeber, I feel no pity for you. There are PLENTY of low and medium population servers to play on. If you were dumb enough to choose a server like Warsong (mine) or Proudmoore, I feel absolutely no pity for you and actually am glad you are getting punished for such a mistake.

**Last Exile** · 20th February 2005, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Razola

If you were dumb enough to choose a server like Warsong (mine)

So what does that say about you? Now who's being hypocritical?!

**PNT510** · 21st February 2005, 01:01 AM

Because maybe Raz started on the server before it became over populated?

**Razola** · 21st February 2005, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by Last Exile

So what does that say about you? Now who's being hypocritical?!

DERF DERF I STARTED PLAYING WORLD OF WARCRAFT ON LAUNCH DAY.

Originally Posted by me

If you nothing about a game, don't ****ing waltz in and act like you know all

This is your last warning, LE. That was clearly a flame out of bitterness, and a woefully ignorant one at that.

You are embarrassing yourself; shut up. Any more posts such as this will be deleted.

Craig · 21st February 2005, 09:41 PM

Warsong used to be "medium" population, and then later became incredibly populated because it was a popular name/pick "I don't want to pick a high population server"

I thought this was "world of warcraft discussion thread" not "World of Warcraft debate thread"

like really

so i've been playing withmy guild, i've fallen behind like crazy in levels...but thats what new womans, new jobs, and new hobbies can do to you. I guess.

As long as Im having fun in the game, i'll have fun. Plenty of time till the expansion

( I play on Illidan server, which happens to also contain the most notorious pvp guild from the closed beta. DIE. The Illidan Realm Forum is the most dramatic forum you'll ever see.)

**The Muffin Man** · 21st February 2005, 09:50 PM

Aside from the fact that two monsters is suicidal for me, I love the Priest. Shadow Word: Pain is an amazing Instant skill. I cast Smite, then when they're targeted on me SW:P, then Smite away. On top of that, I get 30 min of extra vitality with Power Word: Fortitude.

And I don't even have my talents yet.

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