Gym Leader Tower

[Crazy Elf Boy]

Ok here is my two cents in this topic, I like the idea of a tourament which everyone can particpate in because it will give sort of an update of everyones skills.

At the begining of the tournament everybody should have a description of their gym, pokemon type, badge etc to show that they are motivated for this challenge.

Then each person will choose a pokemon from their team which will go well with the gym they have proposed giving the rest of us an idea of what to expect from them if the do become a gym leader.

Then each potiential leader is put into a lotto draw and fights are chosen by random, each fight should take place in a normal arena might have some terrain useful for ceratin attacks and stratergies.

Each fight will be a 1v1 and can either go for a set number of rounds or until one pokemon is knocked out (which ever you prefer). For something like this to work we will need dedicated refs and a low DQ time, maybe 1 or 2 days (possibly a tiny bit more, depends how long you want the tournament to go). Each round could be a knockout or a round robin which I would assume would take a long time so knockout might be best.

If we have as many as 16 entrys (which I assume might be the number we are looking at) it could easily go from 16 to 8 to 4. Which means the possible gym leaders would have to survive 2 knockout rounds. With a 2 day DQ timer and each 1v1 (from my experience) lasting about 5-6 rounds we could have a fair determination of new gymleaders within the month possibly less.

[Mew Master]

At the begining of the tournament everybody should have a description of their gym, pokemon type, badge etc to show that they are motivated for this challenge.

I agree more or less with everything you suggested CEB, except for the quoted bit.

1) We are not limited to just one type in our teams and ASB Gym Leaders in the past were not limited to one type either. So I don't think they should limit themselves based on a single type alone.

2) Not being limited to one type allows for a more challenging battle because one can't go rushing in with a team that knows one super-effective move and start dropping others left and right (I used the Games as a good example of why we shouldn't have Gyms limited to one Type alone, too easy to Rape).

However as I did state before. If we Do go ahead with a Tournament, it should be limited in DQ time, in Reffing Time, and we need eveyrone, (and I mean everyone) at their best. Refs, Battlers, and the people organizing the whole thing.

[Asilynne]

Aside from pokemon type though, it seems Crazy Elf Boy has summed up how I would ideally like it to go quite well Itll test the seriousness of the potential gym leader, because they will have to be dedicated since they will be challenged often. So, yeah, I second the above ideas :>

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Definitly low DQ times, I'd say two days for max for such a tournament. Exceptions can be posted in Abscence tower, methinks.

Knock out is the best solution, otherwise it would take to long. Life's though.

Only people interested should participate however, it's not we need all of ASB. If there are people who're not interested in becoming a Gymleader, they should not be obligated to participate ofcourse

I'm actually feel like battling.

PLUS: If you don't become a gymleader now, you can always do it the hard way and get the badges!

[Crazy Elf Boy]

Thanks guys I feel so honoured people actually like my information, also what I meant about pokemon "type" was no matter how people say that they are non bias to all pokemon types their possible gym will always be based to fit in a with theme or given higher ground to a certain type of pokemon, this was the type of pokemon I was talking about

Another idea I had about the tournament if every participant PM's their pokemon choice to the ref so no type "stacking" will be in play, also attacks might be pm'ed so they have a lot more detail and show the ref and other people who read the battle that they have the right stuff to be a gymleader. Also maybe in the second round each trainer should use a different pokemon to show their skills with various pokemon rather then just one.

Feed back anyone?

[Mew Master]

Actually CEB, I suggested that to one pair of combatants I reffed for and it turned out they didn't like the idea on the grounds of unknown type advantage. Imagine tossing out a Clefairy against a Gengar. The most of your moves are going to be ineffective against it.

[Crazy Elf Boy]

Actually CEB, I suggested that to one pair of combatants I reffed for and it turned out they didn't like the idea on the grounds of unknown type advantage. Imagine tossing out a Clefairy against a Gengar. The most of your moves are going to be ineffective against it.

Undoubtedly you probably have reffed a hell of alot more battles then I have, but from the one battle I have reffed that did require pm'ing of the pokemon choices to the ref and the it was decided by the ref who went first by random. This battle did actually go quite well, in this case (which I expect to be a huge fluke) they both chose the exact same pokemon a Gabite, which is a Dragon type pokemon making both of them lethal to each other.

I just suggested the idea of pm'ing pokemon because it would solve the type stacking problem, but then I guess it would give the person who attacked first the disadvantage for the rest of the match which would make pm'ing attacks the only viable way for both fighters to have a fair fight. But then also it is a very arguable point that the fact the person who chooses first gets to attack second so they possibly have an early adavantage and would out weigh the negative effects of their possible type disadvantage. Then there is also the possiblity the opponent wont go for a type advantage but a purely moveset advantage (speed, variety of moves etc).

Am I thinking about this too much?

[DarkestLight]

CEB: No. No you aren't.I am in full agreement of the PM'ing the choices to the ref before beginning the Tournament. It will balance itself out, and it will force people to make sure they play at their best.

MLG: I understand what you mean about the Tournament situation, but in order for this to work, as Mew stated, we all gotta be at 110%. I'm willing to give this a shot and I'm willing to ref it all >> (Though everyone that would like to ref can surely aid-I am NOT locking myself into that alone, lol) But we'll keep the ideas flowing here, It seems you all have it almost hammered out .

MM: The unknown Bias will not occur. Clefable against Gengar? That's a horrid example, Clefable will EAT Gengar alive. I demand you change that example NOW. In fact, I dun have a Clefable...I know damn sure I want one...Sorry for sidetracking that. My point was that if the Tournament was to take place and optimally we had 16 people, Just randomize the pairings, and then see if there were any severe mismatches, and we could even them out afterward.

its back and watches the end result::

[DarkestLight]

Yo. Everyone. Progress made. Here's the deal.

Even though the first page here has the Gym Leaders listed, I'm pretty sure that's still pretty outdated. Whoever is interested to be a Gym Leader please PM me by Sunday. I want to gather this information asap.

If you are a current Gym Leader, please PM me as well if you are interested in keeping your position. Depending on how many replies I get, I'll be able to tell you how many Gym Leader positions are open.

EDIT: Please. Pm if you want to be a Gym Leader or if you want to hold your position. If you do not reply, I will hold that as you not wanting it. Watch this space for more details.

EDIT 2: As of right now...

MLG
Andrew
Weasel Overlord

are the current Gym Leaders. We will be adding a fixed number soon enough-hopefully by the end of today I can give you more definite details.

Edit 3: After another two weeks of me mulling over details, I decided to go ahead and get this sorted.

After the Legendary Tournament reaches the second level, I'll be able to start the Gym Leader rally. That way, There won't be 6 volatile matches going on and some people will be able to devote more attention to it. I will tell you the guidelines now-so have plenty of time to prepare.

1) To start this as fast as possible, PM me you Gym/Badge if you sent me a PM before saying you were interested in being a Gym leader. Once you pass the "Test"-you're going to be put into rotation immediately.

2) You will be randomly paired against a Gym Leader. If you beat that Gym Leader (or lead after 5 rounds)-yer over to the side. If you lose, well, you lose. Yer gonna do it the hard way then.

3) When all the folks that said they want to be Gym Leaders have had their battles, we'll pick the winners. If there are more winners than Gym slots, then it'll be a margin analysis.

I'll take any questions now.

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Wow, I can't believe I missed this. Bloody edit.

Yay, gymleaders!

Anyway, are we old gymleaders allowed to a new gym? I would love to get something new out there, since my old gym is getting boring and it hasn't been used in ages.

[Andrew]

I want my Gym to have awesome Pokemon. I wouldn't mind 12 points to just go mad and buy a heap of Pokemon for it. Mr. Mime, Caterpie, Weedle, Magikarp, Igglybuff....

[DarkestLight]

MLG: Yes. You oldbies are allowed to change your Gym.
And: Do you mean as part of the 6 Pokemon you only use for the Gym?..If you really wanted to do so, I have no problem with you using your Points for said objective..but uhh..wouldn't half those Pokemon suck?

[Andrew]

Would I be allowed to spend my points on the gym. For Pokemon that will forever become linked to the gym and regardless of owner, MUST be used. I do want a Wigglytuff one day. So yes, Igglybuff would be on there. The rest... not so much.

[DarkestLight]

Oh. Hrm. That a new situation.

You want them to stay there-even though you might lose your title. That would be a very unique prospect. I'll allow it, and we'll see how it works out over the year. I doubt many other people would want to leave Pokemon in their Team at any Gym if they lost it..

[Andrew]

I wouldn't mind donating perhaps one of my Mimes, Driftloon and buying a few Pokemon for my Gym. Would there be a law making any future owners of the gym forced to use them?

[DarkestLight]

Hrm. The Gym would have to follow a set of rules stating that if this Gym is taken over, these Pokemon come with it. I'd say this.

If they chose to keep your Gym, then they would have to use the Pokemon noted in the Gym. Otherwise they could create their own Gym, because some people may want to create their own Gym when they get past everyone. That can work.

[Andrew]

Then all those Pokemon would essentially be sent to the dog food factory!

[DarkestLight]

No. They'd go right back to your team . And if you were reinstated as a Gym Leader again, they'd go right back there. So you don't lose anything.

[Andrew]

I don't want them back. I want a legacy! A legacy forced onto someone.

[Knight of Time]

Um, whenever we are randomly paired against one of the current Gym Leaders for the chance to be one, would we be battling in their gym? I'm curious.

[DarkestLight]

Yes in their Gym.

[Knight of Time]

Okay, so does that mean that if any of us Gym Leader hopefuls win, we get the badge of the person we defeated?

[DarkestLight]

No. this is just for Filling out the Gym Leader ranks. Good try though

[Weasel Overlord]

What happens if the challenged Leader loses? Do we lose our place? I'm just wondering, mind.

[DarkestLight]

No.

When this starts, if the Challenged Leader Loss, they still keep their spot. We're doing this as a speedier but still qualitative way of filling up the empty Gym slots.

[Blademaster]

What's the deadline? I haven't come up with a cool Gym yet.

[DarkestLight]

There is no deadline. This is going to start when we reach the Second Tier of the Tournament.

Does not mean you delay matches >>. Just means I wanna get Tier one finished before I throw this into the pot.

[DarkestLight]

As promised ! Its GYM LEADER SELECTION DAY!!

Well now, how are we going to go about doing this? Simple.

There are 4 Gym Leaders to date.

MLG
Weasel Overlord
Andrew
andddd ME!

Yes. On one of his quick moments alive, Hyp informed me of my eligibility to be a Gym Leader, and I accepted solely for this purpose :O. SO yay. There's 4. For now.

This now means we can have 8 Gym Leader slots. So don't fret, you all still have a chance. Basically, you just have to challenge 1 Gym Leader. Just one.

Whichever one you challenge will have one of six Pokemon. You pick one of the six, and the Gym Leader will pick one of the six. You two duke it out. If you win-Bam, yer a Gym Leader. Simple as that.

If you don't win-BAM, you don't. I'm pretty sure we have a slew of people eager as beavers to be Gym Leaders-so I also imposed one restriction so one person does not get bogged down with battles.

Right now I'm going to Post the Pokemon available for this Qualifier. There's only 6. Each Gym Leader can have up to 2 qualifying matches going at the same time (This is so everyone fights someone and 8 people don't just bog on MLG..)

The Pokemon are...

Cleffa, Igglybuff, Azurill, Happiny, Togepi or Ditto!

Basically, if you can prevail with any of these guys, then you're damned good enough to be a Gym Leader. n_n Any questions? Good. Then pick one, and pick a Gym Leader you wanna battle to earn a spot :O. Good Luck!

[Ultimate Charizard]

Apply here?

Ill take on anyone, possbily you Darkly

[DarkestLight]

Yeap Apply here.

[Ultimate Charizard]

Right then, Darkly, im challenging you and im picking Togepi

[DarkestLight]

Ooooookay . Duly noted :O. I'll let a few more signups appear before I start posting matches left and right xD. Had a feeling you'd be first though, lol.

[Knight of Time]

I might as well go for MLG, one question though, can one of the four current Gym Leaders only have one challenger through this?

[DarkestLight]

KOT: Look for the bold part in my post above.

[Knight of Time]

Okay, then my choice will be a Cleffa.

BTW, whatever baby Pokemon we choose, do we get to keep it if we win or lose?

[DarkestLight]

No. They go back to the world from whence they came.

A world that is currently under construction...... >>

[Ultimate Charizard]

No. They go back to the world from whence they came.

A world that is currently under construction...... >>

You have babies on a building site?

*calls social services*

[DarkestLight]

::Flies a plane into the phone towers::


You didn't hear Anything..

[Prince Crimson]

I choose Happiny and I challenge MLG thats okay right?

[DarkestLight]

That is fine. XD. I can't wait to read his reactions.