NEW!!! The Legend of Zelda, reborn: Mature!!!

[Saturos]

True, but Sony and Microsoft have FILM quality graphics. Sony has very good cinema scenes, mainly from their movies they've had like Spider-man and such.

The XBOX hardware is mainly running off of the NVIDIA graphics card. What do expect Microsoft to do there? They've stripped apart a computer and put it in game-format. There system is good, but they have NEVER put time into creating it to have unique qualities and such.

GCN has all of that. The main processor of the GCN has more elements to create on the screen (fog, lighting, etc.) and can surpass anything that XBOX would throw at them. What about Sony? Did you not forget that when Nintendo wanted to make a system (which led to the N64) that utilizes CDs for the games, that they called upon the help of Sony to do that?

Sony took Nintendo's ideas and came out with the PlayStation. And the N64 still kicks the PSOnes butt graphic-wise.

The GCN will live on far enough, even if Nintendo makes another next-gen console, they still won't quit making the GCN, because NO othere developer has ever pumped out the the GCN's full capabilities at all!!

[Crazy]

NO WHY ARE THEY SCREWING WITH THE LoZ series?! It isn't meant to be a mature series. Darn jackasses who complained about it being "kitty" have probably destroyed the whole thing. Crap,crap,crap,crap.

[mew151]

Crazy, even if you think they "de-kiddy-fied" it, it doesnt give any excuse to judge it by its graphics. Itll still be a great game, but with a different graphical style.

[The Muffin Man]

NO WHY ARE THEY SCREWING WITH THE LoZ series?! It isn't meant to be a mature series. Darn jackasses who complained about it being "kitty" have probably destroyed the whole thing. Crap,crap,crap,crap.

Yeah, damn Ocarina of Time for starting this trend!


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[The Muffin Man]

True, but Sony and Microsoft have FILM quality graphics. Sony has very good cinema scenes, mainly from their movies they've had like Spider-man and such.

Ermm...Sonys actually weakest graphically. They push their system to the edge, yes, but Microsoft and Nintendos "Edge" is farther out.

The XBOX hardware is mainly running off of the NVIDIA graphics card. What do expect Microsoft to do there? They've stripped apart a computer and put it in game-format. There system is good, but they have NEVER put time into creating it to have unique qualities and such.

GCN has all of that. The main processor of the GCN has more elements to create on the screen (fog, lighting, etc.) and can surpass anything that XBOX would throw at them. What about Sony? Did you not forget that when Nintendo wanted to make a system (which led to the N64) that utilizes CDs for the games, that they called upon the help of Sony to do that?

This suddenly makes Sony the most powerful? No. It makes them one of the most knowledgable.

Sony took Nintendo's ideas and came out with the PlayStation. And the N64 still kicks the PSOnes butt graphic-wise.

*Rubs temple*God, I'm a self-proclaimed Nintendo fanboy, and even THIS is painful to read for ME...

The GCN will live on far enough, even if Nintendo makes another next-gen console, they still won't quit making the GCN, because NO othere developer has ever pumped out the the GCN's full capabilities at all!!

This is true for XBox and also partly true for PS2.


And for the record, Soul Calibur is one of the best examples of a shitty fighter.

[Dean]

Point #1: You are just being ignorant if you are going to try and say that GameCube has better graphics than Xbox. It's not a matter of opinion, it's a matter of fact, and you're just making a damn fool out of yourself.

Point #2: GameCube is not "harder to program for", get your head out of your ass.

Point #3: Since when does making up stuff that isn't true constitute as a valid argument on these boards. Use some common sense people.

[Crazy]

Yeah, damn Ocarina of Time for starting this trend!


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Amen(Sarcasm)! No, I mean mature not like OoT. I looked at the pictures and the thread says MATURE so I figured there would be blood and stuff. Even though I didn't notice any,they just need to be careful. Next thing you know they will turn it into a FPS.

[PNT510]

If Zelda becomes an FPS it won't happen before Mario starts stealing cars and killing hookers.

[phaedrus]

If Zelda becomes an FPS it won't happen before Mario starts stealing cars and killing hookers.

watch samus have to go through whore camp and become a prostitute =|

i swear to god when those things happen i will kill myself even if i become a billionaire.

[Razola]

X-Box has the best potential for graphics, followed by the Cube, and then the PS2. Having all that power means nothing if no one is willing to utilize it. Generally 1st-Party titles will get the most mileage since they have the resources and know the system inside and out.

And for the record, Soul Calibur is one of the best examples of a shitty fighter.

Every time I think you have no taste in games, you go a little bit lower.

[The Muffin Man]

X-Box has the best potential for graphics, followed by the Cube, and then the PS2. Having all that power means nothing if no one is willing to utilize it. Generally 1st-Party titles will get the most mileage since they have the resources and know the system inside and out.


Every time I think you have no taste in games, you go a little bit lower.

Because I didn't like how there was little balance in SC?


Kilik - Massive range, decent damage. yeah, THAT'S fair. "Side step!" you say? He can swing it sideways. Any good Kilik player can swing it around before anyone can get in.

Maxi - Need I say more? Besides Kilik, Maxi can pull off huge combos without TRYING.

Link - ...

Nightmare - Huge damage, huge range, and once he gets going he's not all that slow.

Heihachi - "Let's give him no weapon, put his weapon on his elbows, and have him use freakishly long arms instead! Then let's make him imbalanced!"


Now if you'd like to have taste in games yourself, then you can have the right to talk back Raz. Until then, shut the **** up an GET TASTE IN GAMES.


God, not my fault there are people BUYING this crap.

[Razola]

Oh noes! Because TMM feels like he's the lord of SC, I have no taste.

Seriously, the game is fine if you play under house rules for a few characters. Quit yer whining.

EDIT: I'm actually curious what TMM enjoys to play. Bloodrayne? The Sims?

[PNT510]

Hey TMM. Maybe if you weren't a ****tard you'd know you can guard impact to block Kilik's side swing.

The thing that's nice about SC2 is you have to use different stratigies against different characters.

[Drago]

Four pages in, SC argument starts. Better than I expected, really. For that regard, I'll just say imbalance does not a bad fighter make. It's the point where a game is so unimaginative, dismal, and frustrating that you could not care less of any imbalance (which I found did not apply to SC), is an indication of a game being feces-like in quality. That's just my opinion and whether or not its of any relevance, there isn't any hope of someone else's being swayed, thereby rendering it pointless.

Moving along then, a new mature Zelda is one of the smart moves Nintendo made. I loved Wind Waker, and many others did as well, but let's face it. A cel-shaded title in an important franchise merely fuels the dull argument that Nintendo is a kiddie system. We all know that it isn't, and anyone who can't see past that is an absolute tool, but the graphic presentation of a game is oftentimes enough to steer away the (extreme) casual gamer, as well as the lack of Sims in the title.
Innovation is Nintendo's strong suit. However, they don't seem quite as adept at giving people what they want. Harsh words, I realise, and I'm a Nintendo fanboy myself, but it's quite clear. This is evidenced by an insane obsession for connectivity. It should be used as a delightful bonus that sets GameCube apart from other systems, not a basis for a multitude of titles.

Recently, however, Nintendo have made some steps in the right direction. This new Zelda may steer away some who appreciated the cel-shaded appearance, but it will appeal to a far broader, less open-minded audience who thought 'Wind Waker has crap graphics'. The good of the many far outweigh the few, and essentially, even those who know better than to judge a game by its appearance should manage to appreciate the next Zelda for what it should be, a damn fine title (Likelihood is it'll be more than that, but that's an estimated minimum).
Also on the Zelda front, Four Swords + has made great strides as a madcap multiplayer title, and has Tetra's Trackers/Navi Trackers as an addition. That's exactly how it should be made. Not as a game, but as an addition. Now, rather than look at what the game could've been, skeptics will instead be unable to deny the fact that that is a welcome addition.

Here's to a new Zelda game, then.

[Dean]

That's odd TMM, because I found those to be some of the worst characters. Sure, good for a button masher or someone who has no clue what they are doing, but anybody who has half a brain can beat them handily. Says a lot for you.

[Razola]

Also on the Zelda front, Four Swords + has made great strides as a madcap multiplayer title, and has Tetra's Trackers/Navi Trackers as an addition. That's exactly how it should be made. Not as a game, but as an addition.
Here's to a new Zelda game, then.

Tetra's Trackers has been removed from the US version due. The game was not nearly as deep as the other two modes, and it was decided that it was not worth delaying the game to translate the voice bits for the releases outside Japan.

I've also heard the Avdenture Mode in Four Swords takes around 30 hours. Throw in the battle mode and this is more like a full-fledged game than a bargain purchase.

[The Muffin Man]

Oh noes! Because TMM feels like he's the lord of SC, I have no taste.

Seriously, the game is fine if you play under house rules for a few characters. Quit yer whining.

EDIT: I'm actually curious what TMM enjoys to play. Bloodrayne? The Sims?

Yes. I love travesty against gaming...

Current favorites:
Metroid Zero Mission
Lunar(GBA)
Mario and Luigi: SSS
Earthbound
Wind Waker
Super Smash Bros.
KoTOR*Can't remember the last time I played anything else*
LaPucelle Tactics
FFX-2
FFX

Looking into River City Ransom EX and definetly Metal Slug 3.

And Fable but that's never coming out.

And to everyone else - The thing that I DID like was changing your strategy. Only problem is that when everyone uses the SAME STRATEGY it gets to the point where if you don't change, the 1 player sucks, and if you DO change, you get beat by the same damn thing over and over. The most annoying part was my favorite character from the arcade version(Raphael) seems to have gotten nerfed. Although I cannot deny nor confirm what my friend says, he's an ******* who uses only Mitsurugi and claims he's godly anyhow.
Anyway, he claims Raphael has attacks that DO NOTHING whatsoever. Can anyone confirm/deny? I returned the game quite promptly after purchase before I even CARED to play the game anymore. But yes, I did play it(PS2 version, although I had the "honor" of playing the GC version with Link).

[PNT510]

Raphael wasn't nerfed. If you played the game you would know that. He doesn't do lots of damage but he is easy to get long combos with.