Shiny pokemon

[have a stammer]

Luck seems to be the real key 612 hrs on Sapphire and 1 shiny, Roselia. My shiny spinda was from my Ruby and was found 200 or so hrs in. And luck is hardly with me, I have a hard enough time hatching pokemon with correct ability and nature.

[rinku]

Luck it is. The chances of an event with probability P *not* ocurring in N number of trials is:

(1-P)^N

So if there is a 25% chance of an event ocurring, and you did 4 trials there would still be a 31.64% chance of it not ocurring. It's important to realise that there is never a 100% chance of a truly random event ocurring no matter how many trials you perform.

8000 battles will by no means guarantee a shiny. 16000 would make the odds much sweeter, but still leave about a 13% chance of no shinys. If you manage 100 battles an hour, you'd average one shiny per 80 hours or so, perhaps one every few months for a dedicated player. Running away can speed up this sort of search as can turing off battle animations and /or using pokémon with less message generation (no leftovers or intimidate for example)

All this assumes the odds are as reported. It *is* possible that the game generates the chance of a shiny differently, though from the numbers reported 1/8000 seems about right. I have seen 3 wild shinys in 850 or so hours play, but have spent a lot of time in battle tower (where I saw one) contests (which suck up time) and trainer battles (whose pokemon's stats do not change from battle to battle).

[Poryhedron]

The number's 8192, isn't it? For those of you who don't know, this number makes sense because it's 2, raised to the thirteenth power, and computers (including the Game Boy Advance) like counting by 2's. It's easier for them.

[GrOuDoN69]

how an you get a shiny charzard and a shiny latias?
from groudon 69

[Music Dragon]

In case you didn't know (which I guess is the reason you asked), shiny or not is completely random. If you get a shiny, that doesn't mean you did something special in order to do it.

[Darien Shields]

In the land of Hoenn, the wind echoes a legend... Err, rather, that is, someone told me the chances of a legend or a one-off being Shiny are greater than a regular poke being shiny. However, it has yet to be proven, so it remains a legend.

To Groudon Stupid Number (not to mention bad capitalisation), you get a shiny Charizard by evolving a Shiny Charmeleon. =P. To get your Shiny 'mander to start though, either restart your game countless times (if you have FR, which I doubt, for some reason) until your starter is Shiny, otherwise you breed a Charizard (or any Char) to produce 'Manders, in the hope one will be Shiny. If you don't have FR, or know anyone who does (Fire Red), you can't (unless you cheat, and that requires an action replay or other code device.)

As for Latias. It must be shiny when you first encounter it. This would mean a ridiculous amount of work on a wild one in Sapphire, or you could get Ruby and an Eon Ticket (from Nintendo Giveaways. You can't get them unless you go to a Nintendo Giveaway) and go to the Southern Island and face off against the Latias there countless times until it is Shiny. If you want more info on these pokemon take it out of this post...

I'm sorry for my derogative tone, but you strike me as the kind of guy who... needs things spelled out very clearly. Sorry.

[Rabid_Cow]

What is the odds of getting a shiny pokemon from a restart find? Is is the same odds as a wild pokemon encounter or not? The reason that I'm asking is because I'm trying to get a shiny Kecleon.

I've been restarting for the last week today and still no luck.

[Darien Shields]

They're (TMK) the same, RC. However, it's much faster to restart, and you get a controlled pokemon with a Kecleon (no risk of getting a lame Shiny, that is, unless you think Kek's lame.) If it's one that bars the plot, beat it and move on (especially if there's another one you can get around that you can leave to do later.) Otherwise keep at it! It's sure to shine eventually!

[Rabid_Cow]

I'm trying for the shiny Kecleon behind the sign. (The route to the right of Fortree City, I'm too lazy to look that route up...)

[GrOuDoN69]

your never going to find a shiny kecleon lol

[Darien Shields]

Gee, thanks for that pearl of wisdom Groudon. With three posts under your belt, and an amazing grasp of the English language, I'm sure you know best.

My personal opinion is that you'd have to stick at it for a long time to get a Kecleon, but that's a long time.

[Music Dragon]

Uh... I'm no expert really, but why can't he get a shiny Kecleon? I don't think it's impossible.

[Poryhedron]

He can. Groudon69 is just being an idiot.

[Chris 2.1]

Basically, since the odds are stacked up against Rabid Cow, Groundon thinks that he will never encounter a shiny kecleon as the chances are more likely he will run into a normal coloured one until he gets bored.

I know, however, that Rabid Cow has the endurance and faith to aquire this Kecleon. Logically you could encounter one at any time, on the first encounter, for example.

R_C, you have my support!

[Darien Shields]

He can. Groudon69 is just an idiot.

To quote Heath, "I fixed your post for you".

But more to the subject, yeah, he has an equal chance of his first fight being shiny as he does his 10,000th, but chances are he won't until he's restarted a few thousand times. I'd get hopeful after 4000 resets.

I don't know Rabid Cow, I don't know if he's got the perceveirance. I'd like to think so though. Just make sure you can catch a Shiny when it appears!

[TeleFox]

Crufidal got his shiny Kecleon that way, there's no reason why you won't get one eventually. As Darien points out tho, make sure you can catch it, without fail. Plenty of Pokéballs in stock etc.

Using a formula noted by rinku: (1-P)^N gives you the probability of not finding a shiny after any number of tries (P=Probability, N=Number of encounters).
By adjusting this a bit, you find the chances of finding a shiny are:

38.6% after 4,000 restarts/encounters/hatches
70.5% after 10,000 restarts/encounters/hatches.

[Crufidal]

Thanks TeleFox. While reading along this post, I saw that Rabid's still at getting the Kecleon. Groudon thinks he can't get one. It didn't take me all that many tries, I'd say 3,000, tops? Perhaps I'm just lucky.

Yeah, this is just here in case anybody thinks Shiny Kecleon don't exist for some strange reason, or if a certain individual thinks it isn't possible ^^;

.. and thanks for that formula, TeleFox! That's gonna be useful for me. Now I can find out how truly unlucky I really am.

Rabid, I recall earlier you said you wanted to preserve your Shiny Zubat's black color somehow, perhaps through a painting? I just wanted to let you know that Pink Crobat isn't that bad

[theniceguydk]

OMG OMG OMG!!!
I just found my second shiny - wee!
Okay. I was in the Safari Zone, catching Pokémons to put in my Pokémon Box, from my Colosseum Bundle (I love in Europe). I caught them in the Safari Zone, because its cheap, and you can catch a lot of Pokémons.
After about 1 hour catching Pokémons in the Safari Zone (I caught about 80 Pokémons), I met a Purple Wobbuffet!
I was just: "OMG!! It's a shiny!" and then I saw the stars.
I thought: "CATCH IT, CATCH IT!"
I threw a Safari Ball.. It popped out.. NOO!
I thought it was about to run, but it didn't - luckily!
I threw one more, and diing - it stayed in the Ball.. YAAAAY!

As I said, this is my second shiny.
I've caught one shiny before - A shiny Tentacool, now a Tentacruel.
Puuh.. I'm so happy

[VampireCharizard]

ok, yes i do know someone with FR, lol so i havea female charizard lv. 39, i bred male seviper and the charizard and bang! i got a shiny charmander. As for Latias... I'm not shiny crazy (not that any of you are...) so i didn't search for months on end to find her. I was actually in the process of wating for that very 'mander egg to be created when i ran into her east of west of mauville. that was so cool And then the tropius was actually from an old game file, I just preserved it through like 5 generations of game files by trading it back and forth through the versions. It now resides on my ruby which has two badges. lol and the Celebi, ok i admit my I used my friend's gameshark to get that, but I don't even play gold/silver/crystal anymore. Wut's an action replay thing? is it like game shark? AND YES i am VERY aware of the incredibly loe odds and am very proud. lol

[VampireCharizard]

just kiddin i know what action replay is my friend owns one but that ***** won't let me use it... Are there even shiny codes for it? if anyone finds any, tell me!!! lol not that i could use any more shinies...

[Crufidal]

Hey, I remembered something. I once heard that when you are breeding a Shiny Pokemon, where a Shiny is either the mother or the father, there is a 1/64 chance of the offspring being Shiny, too. Is this true? If so, I definitely favor 1/64 over 1/8,192. Could anybody confirm this? This would be of great use to me, and hopefully to others, too.

[Darien Shields]

Hey, I remembered something. I once heard that when you are breeding a Shiny Pokemon, where a Shiny is either the mother or the father, there is a 1/64 chance of the offspring being Shiny, too. Is this true? If so, I definitely favor 1/64 over 1/8,192. Could anybody confirm this? This would be of great use to me, and hopefully to others, too.

Sadly no. This is from GSC when Shiny was based on Stats, which were passed down genetically. That's nolonger the case. You have the same 1/8000+ chance to get a shiny egg as you do a shiny pokemon.

[Crufidal]

Ough, that's awful. Totally awful. Ugghalugghalugh.

There goes my plan. I've got a Shiny Male Kecleon, so I figured I'd breed him 'til I got lots of Shiny offspring in the Ground egg group. Oh well.

[Darien Shields]

Hah. I guess they took it out because you could just get a Shiny Ditto (the same way you get any other shiny) and then breed a whole new generation of shining pokemon. Shame that.

[Linc]

I had like 7 shiny Heracross' on Gold. I found this one tree right outside Mahogany town on the right side in the set of trees that were above that one lake. It was like the second or third one and every other tiem I used headbutt on it, I got a shiny Heracross. I also had a shiny mew from GameShark, and *drumrolls* a shiny Caterpie! Zipadeedooda.

[andyizcool]

I had like 7 shiny Heracross' on Gold. I found this one tree right outside Mahogany town on the right side in the set of trees that were above that one lake. It was like the second or third one and every other tiem I used headbutt on it, I got a shiny Heracross.

Was the game rigged or something when all those Shiny Heracross' happened? Chances of a Shiny Pokemon are rare but two or three in a row means you multiple the odds by each other making them extremely rare.

[drizzt]

Hey everybody.

Well i am really trying to get a shiny beldum and thanks to rinku for the formula i think i can with alittle time. Anyway i read in another topic that Brit Chris got a shiny beldum and i was just interested as what clour it is.

thanks in advance

P.S. Good luck Rapid on finding that shiny poke.

[Chris 2.1]

Yea, shiny Beldum is silvery grey where it is blue, with gold instead of those silver bits on its end.

The story: I was at a local Tournament and whupped this guy's a$$. Anyway he traded me some version-exclusive Pokemon, and added I should raise a Metagross. He gave me this shiny Beldum so I could raise a better Metagross (said this one had good IV's). It was level 14.

It's so kewl. Also, the Treecko and Mudkip he gave me had Pokers.

[rinku]

Heh. I never had the guts to go shiny searching in Safari... too heartbreaking if it gets away.

Bottom line if you crave shinies is to maximise your encounter rate - take a lead pokemon with Illuminate, use the White Flute, ride a bike and look in grass that has a decent encounter rate. If you can get it up above 2 encounters a minute you have a decent chance of seeing a shiny every month or two. Make sure you have a good capture pokémon or two in your team and lots of balls.

[edit]
Using an Illuminate Volbeat, White Flute and Acro Bike I was able to get an ecounter rate on R117 of about 5 per minute by running away. If you wanted to fight each one you should still be able to acheive 4 per minute with a strong starter suited to all things to be encountered and animations turned off. One hour per day of this, including fighting, should give close to 7000 encounters per month, well up to the level where you can be sure of encountering shinies regularly. If you are nuts enough to put in more than an hour a day searching for them, you could get a whole lot more...

[Rabid_Cow]

2 things:

1. Why couldn't you just use Sweet Scent outside of a battle to encounter a wild poke even more often than 5 a minute?

2.What color is a shiny Crobat on Colosseum? I have a black shiny Zubat named Monego that appears green on Colosseum. I was having doubts about evolving him because of him bein' pink and all as a Crobat, but if he's some other cool color, I will evolve and use him.

Thanks in advance!

[Primworm]

2 things:

1. Why couldn't you just use Sweet Scent outside of a battle to encounter a wild poke even more often than 5 a minute?

2.What color is a shiny Crobat on Colosseum? I have a black shiny Zubat named Monego that appears green on Colosseum. I was having doubts about evolving him because of him bein' pink and all as a Crobat, but if he's some other cool color, I will evolve and use him.

Thanks in advance!

Back after a long time, but anyways, crobat is a nice pink color with(if i remember right) green in the wings. Also, if you want a nice place for encounters, goto the ash field, you might get a shiny spinda.

[Crufidal]

Yup, Crobat's a great pink hue. I heard you didn't like pink too much, however. Hmmmm.

Anyway, I know that running around using the running shoes with your white flute on is almost always faster than using Sweet Scent. When I look for Shinies, I go to the Swablu route (not stopping til I get a shiny one...) and play my white flute, then run with my shoes back and forth. The encounters come very quickly, and my Zigzagoon help me get rare candies

[rinku]

1. Why couldn't you just use Sweet Scent outside of a battle to encounter a wild poke even more often than 5 a minute?

I just timed it and it works out to about 3 per minute. It's a viable strategy if trying to get encounters in low-encounter rate areas you can't use running or bikes for (i.e underwater). The problem is that you can't avoid the animation for using sweet scent. If that could be turned off it might be faster.

You also don't get any steps - the other method allows daycare experience to happen, happiness points to accumulate and eggs to hatch.

But for a shiny Clamperl? Definitely.

[Primworm]

I think maybe we should send people around to different routes and assign them that route & find encounter rates there. I think it would be fun,and easy training for your under-leveled pokes.

[Darien Shields]

I think maybe we should send people around to different routes and assign them that route & find encounter rates there. I think it would be fun,and easy training for your under-leveled pokes.

Or we could just check Pokemon Forever and save ourselves the hassle. We could do that sorta thing for FR/LG, which Meowth doesn't have up yet, or if we were trying to get data for the TPM official pokedex, I suppose doing it ourselves would be vaguely worthwhile, but using a game code rippin' thing like Meowth did would be more accurate.

[Linc]

Was the game rigged or something when all those Shiny Heracross' happened? Chances of a Shiny Pokemon are rare but two or three in a row means you multiple the odds by each other making them extremely rare.

Nah, I think it was a weird glitch or something...

[NUCLEAR_RABBIT]

This has been a while ^_^ , though i'm sure nobody missed me.

I have been very lucky with my shinies i suppose.

The first shiny, the story of spinda
I was playing pokémon with a friend and we were talking about how rare shinies are.
After about 10 minutes he goes to the bathroom. When he is in the bathroom i come across a shiny spinda, and catch it

The second shiny, the story of Corsola.
I wanted to breed a corsola for a friend of mine (other friend as in the last story) so when i was walking out the eggs in the evening, the first one was a hardy, blue corsola .

[Reiha]

I haven't seen any shiny in my Sapphire. I once encountered a shiny sudowoodo in my Gold version, but I thought it was a glitch or something and reset my game. Dumb me...I didn't knew shiny pokémon were rare.

[Shade the Light Gym Leader]

Ruby Shinies (in order of appearance)

Purple Swampert Basically, restart trick at Prof. Birch's bag at the start. No real story, it only took 3 days! Named Big, after Big the Cat from Sonic. (See the resemblance?)

Pink Castform Restart trick at Weather Institute, if I remember correctly this one took like 6 days (but I was putting in at least 3 or 4 hours a day). No nickname.

Red Linoone EB Games Berry Glitch Fix promo. No nickname.

(Almost) Golden Poochyena I saw it while restarting for a shiny Torchic... I was ready to pound the screen in. After I get the Torchic I plan to shark the Poochyena cuz I deserve it.

(In Progress) Yellow Torchic Still restartin for this one... putting in 3 or 4 hours a day and I've been at it for over a week, hopefully I get lucky soon... I'm going to name it Onaria after one of the characters in my novel.

Sapphire Shinies (in order of appearance)

Blue Medicham... or not. I saw this beauty in the Battle Tower... and since it was the first shiny I ever saw in either Ruby or Sapphire I was kinda bummed. It kinda blew over though because I didn't really realize it was a shiny until I killed it and when I realized it I was like "whatever..." and continued my BT streak. IIRC that was the morning I caught Latias so its all good anyway.

Red Cyndaquil Breeding from the Colosseum Typhlosion since Cyndaquil is my favorite Pokémon of all time... I was breeding an army of 6 and the third one to come out was red... I was like ! It went on to win all four Cool Contests and is center-stage in the Art Museum in Lilycove ... its Level 42 IIRC cuz I dont want to evolve it. It's name is Mr. Motza, doesn't that just scream cool?

Black Camerupt When I started EV training my team I knew I would have to battle a lot of different Pokémon to build them up, so I thought "Hey, here's a good chance to find a shiny somewhere." 5 Level 100 fully-trained Pokémon later and my hopes were kinda squashed... seeing nothing. But then I was EV training my Altaria (member #6) against wild Machop on Route 112... and I breifly glanced down at my Game Boy and there was just another Numel going across the screen... then I was like "wait, isn't that a little darker than usual?" and the shadow cleared, *SHINE!* Wild Numel Appeared! I remember I was saying to myself "No ****ing way..." the whole time. Just one Ultra Ball and *ding!* I am the proud owner of a Pink Numel! I named it Milky cuz for some reason it reminded me of dairy :-P (maybe cuz in Colosseum, when it faints it looks like a tipped cow). I evolved it on Colosseum... but now I am having second thoughts because on Colosseum Numel is BRIGHT PINK with a bright blue hump and I really liked that but the black Camerupt is kinda lame... maybe I will breed another pink Numel. :-)

So there you have it. Even though I listed 8, I only have 5 shinies: Swampert, Linoone, Castform, Cyndaquil, and Camerupt. But I realize this is more than most of you there so I feel lucky. I'm only at like 330 hours too. :-P

[theniceguydk]

The second shiny, the story of Corsola.
I wanted to breed a corsola for a friend of mine (other friend as in the last story) so when i was walking out the eggs in the evening, the first one was a hardy, blue corsola .

SHINY CORSOLA!!! NOOO! I just LOVE it, and I've been trying to find one in sooooooooooooooooo long time.. Still no luck Lucky you!