Ready for another season of baseball?

[Ghost]

Nice job by Pelfrey, but of course, we couldn't finish up the sweep...

also, Mike Pelfrey has TMJ, does anyone here know what that does? All i know is that it has something to do with your jaw..

[Dark Dragonite]

They should just change the title of this thread to NY Mets and some other baseball stuff...lol

temporomandibular joint disorder
http://www.mindspring.com/~sandysimmons/tmj.html

"Symptoms directly linked to TMJ include:

Joint popping
Inability to chew or bite down on hard foods
Pain in the joint and the surrounding areas
Headaches
Ringing in the ears
Plugged ears
Ear pain
Conditions Linked to TMJ Based on Recent Studies:

TMJ is common in people who also have:

Mitral valve prolapse
Hypermobile joints (also called joint laxity or double jointedness)
Ehlers-Danlos syndrome or another form of a connective tissue disorder

Conditions Linked to TMJ Based on My Own Experience and My Email:

Frozen Shoulders
Dental work
Car accidents - I get a lot of email about that
Scoliosis
Using a mouse with your hand on the side of your body where you have TMJ
Magnesium deficiency
Playing a musical instrument that puts pressure on your hands or neck "

[mr_pikachu]

Hooray, the Cards sweep the season series with the Dodgers for the first time in 115 years. Woo!

(And for the record, HOW THE HELL DID IT TAKE 115 YEARS?!)

[Dark Dragonite]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lou...nchise_history

The American Association...the Cardinals franchise began in 1882 before MLB really exsisted with the Cincinnati Red Stockings, whose name changed quickly to the Brown Stockings...and obviously, the Dodgers were the Btooklyn Dodgers in the 1800s

[Ghost]

Wow, 115 years? Jesus, that's a while....

Also, mr pikachu, where the hell have you been? It's been just me and dark dragonite talking in here for ages...

Also, this should be turned into New York Mets+some other baseball stuff...

[mr_pikachu]

DD: Well, actually, I knew that. I was just baffled by the fact that it took them that many seasons to finally sweep the Dodgers (regardless of their city). 114 years without a season sweep? Craziness!


Ghost: I've been in the land without internet access. See, I'm living in my parent's vacant house, which... aw, hell with it. You can read my explanation somewhere else; I'm not writing it out for the thousanth thim! *is tired of explaining*

(Sorry. It's just that the whole situation annoys me to no end. Argh!)

Maybe I'll change the name... for about 15 seconds. Then I'll change it back. And I won't give any warning about when it will happen. Yay?

[Ghost]

Booooooooo!!!!!!

Maybe the Mets will attract more then us 3 and the occasional NumberOneChanseyFan visit, lol!

Tonight it's going to be Trachsel vs Maddux, lets hope they win! I'm still pissed we didn't beat the 'Stros.

[Ghost]

Wow... Where is everyone?

I'm still pissed we got rid of Nads....

[mr_pikachu]

Oh, yeah. Cards 13, Reds 1. It took a total of 12 pitches to score five runs off Ramirez in the first (dang!), and we just blew them away in general. This is a crucial series that could either give Cincinnati a chance in the NL Central or cement St. Louis' dominance. And this was the right way to start.

However, I don't like the Belliard-Luna trade. Belliard's a great player, and he'll hit .290 for us for years to come. But Luna's got a boatload of potential; I think they need to try to build their talent this year, looking ahead to the future. Frankly, we haven't played like a championship team this year (two eight-game losing streaks is never a good sign), so I don't think we should be trading away prospects to get temporary talent. Luna could have grown into an extraordinary player who we could've had for many years. Belliard is already strong, but he's an older player who doesn't have nearly as much time left in the majors as Luna likely does. I just hope this doesn't hurt our chances in the future.

[Number1ChanseyFan]

However, I don't like the Belliard-Luna trade. Belliard's a great player, and he'll hit .290 for us for years to come. But Luna's got a boatload of potential; I think they need to try to build their talent this year, looking ahead to the future. Frankly, we haven't played like a championship team this year (two eight-game losing streaks is never a good sign), so I don't think we should be trading away prospects to get temporary talent. Luna could have grown into an extraordinary player who we could've had for many years. Belliard is already strong, but he's an older player who doesn't have nearly as much time left in the majors as Luna likely does. I just hope this doesn't hurt our chances in the future.

[color=magenta]XD If you don't like Belliard you can always give him back. ^_^ The trade really didn't hurt Cleveland, because Belliard is a free agent at the end of the year, so they were probably going to lose him anyways, so it made sense to get something for him. Cleveland has a horrible record of trying to keep their own free agents. I think that most of them are smart enough to get out of here at their first chance. Although I have heard that the Indians may try and resign Belliard again after this season. Either way, he was a pretty good player and teammate, (although he is a little to impatient at the plate and hits into too many double plays IMO.) so this is a nice chance for him to play in a postseason, especially if he does sign back with Cleveland after this year, because if he does that, he won't be seeing the playoffs for a loooooooooooong time. XD

Belliard can be surprising though, especially late in games, he has had a couple of big hits against some tough closers over the years. He also has deceptively good home run power for a small guy, (He is only as tall as I am!! ^_^) he has the ability to hit for power at important times late in games.

On a side note, Luna is hitting .143 and finally got his first 2 RBI last night. XD I may be wrong, but I don't think that Luna is going to be irreplaceable for the Cardinals. I don't think he will hit enough to become a regular player, he is probably more of a utility guy. Most of his value comes from him being able to play just any position except catcher/pitcher, but there are plenty of guys out there like that. The Indians actually lost Luna 2 times in the minor league Rule 5 draft back when he was in the minors with Cleveland, they got him back the first time from Tampa Bay, but St. Louis drafted him the next year and kept him.

[mr_pikachu]

Oh, come on!

Edmonds rips a grand slam in the first inning... we retain a (slim) 7-6 lead going into the ninth... and Isringhausen blows another save.

Walkoff two-run blast by David Ross (who the freak is that?). 8-7 loss. I could die.

[Ghost]

Wow... Cards got swept by Pirates (or was it Padres?)

AND PEDRO MARTINEZ blows again. and again. and again.

[mr_pikachu]

It was the Pirates. This was after we botched the Reds series, mind you.

We've left the door wide open for Cincinnati with only one 3-game set left to play against them... At this rate, my Cardinals are going to miss the playoffs...

Not that we deserve to make them. In all honesty, this has been a horrendous year. I still want them to make the playoffs, but I'm not sure we're deserving this time around. We'll see.

[Dark Dragonite]

How about Boston being swept by the Royals...LOL
and almost swept by Tampa Bay back to back...

Pedro's a bum...getting injured, and still taking the mound, so that when his inning is over, the Mets have little chance of winning...

John Maine for the win!!

But as my dad said, they were due for a lousy game, since they've played so well

[Ghost]

Nice Job by Maine for the win. Could he be our next ace?

Also, anybody watching the Red Sox yankees today? Johnson vs Wang, XD

[mr_pikachu]

With less than a month and a half left to play, how is your team faring in the hunt for October?



AL East W L AVG GB
NY Yankees 70 48 .593 -
Boston 69 50 .580 1.5
Toronto 65 56 .537 6.5
Baltimore 53 68 .438 18.5
Tampa Bay 48 73 .397 23.5

AL Central W L AVG GB
Detroit 79 42 .653 -
Chicago Sox 72 48 .600 6.5
Minnesota 70 50 .583 8.5
Cleveland 54 66 .450 24.5
Kansas City 43 79 .352 36.5

AL West W L AVG GB
Oakland 68 52 .567 -
LA Angels 63 59 .516 6.0
Texas 62 60 .508 7.0
Seattle 56 65 .463 12.5


NL East W L AVG GB
NY Mets 72 48 .600 -
Philadelphia 59 61 .492 13.0
Atlanta 56 64 .467 16.0
Florida 56 64 .467 16.0
Washington 53 68 .438 19.5

NL Central W L AVG GB
St. Louis 64 56 .533 -
Cincinnati 62 59 .512 2.5
Houston 58 63 .479 6.5
Milwaukee 57 64 .471 7.5
Chicago Cubs 52 68 .433 12.0
Pittsburgh 46 75 .380 18.5

NL West W L AVG GB
LA Dodgers 64 57 .529 -
Arizona 61 60 .504 3.0
San Diego 60 61 .496 4.0
Colorado 59 62 .488 5.0
San Francisco 58 63 .479 6.0

[Number1ChanseyFan]

Also, anybody watching the Red Sox yankees today? Johnson vs Wang, XD

[color=magenta]Meh, should be an easy win for the Yankees then. Silly Jason Johnson... I wonder why the Red Sox wanted him? I am glad they did though, so at least he isn't Cleveland's problem anymore. XD It was very funny that the Red Sox traded for him a couple of months ago, and then he pitched against the Indians, and they beat him. It was the most good that Johnson did for the Indians since they signed him... then again, he usually always has been more valuable to the team that he is pitching against instead of the team that he is pitching for...

BTW earlier in the year when Jason Johnson pitched for Cleveland, he pitched against Randy Johnson, so it was Johnson and Johnson. ^_^ I'll give a cookie to whoever correctly guesses which Johnson won that game.

[Ghost]

Boston's losing 4-3 in the 6th now sadly... But hopefully they can come back, with a man on second and all. *knock on wood*

[Girafarig]

Ugh, the Braves have really slipped lately. Goodbye, 14-year division streak.

[Number1ChanseyFan]

[color=magenta]To all of the Mets fans in this topic...

Thank you for trading for Guillermo Mota!! You have made Cleveland a better place. Hopefully you guys didn't give up too much for him... although a ball and bat would probably qualify as too much. XD

So ummm... good luck. Maybe he will do something with the change of scenery... he was one of the worst pitchers that has ever played for Cleveland.

[Ghost]

Hopefully their just using him for triple A... actually, Single A may be better for him.

Red Sox are getting annihilated... must go back to hiding.

[mr_pikachu]

It's been 55 years since the Yankees swept a five-game series from the Sox, and another eight years since it's happened a Fenway. But they just did it again... I didn't even realize anyone still played five-game series... o_0

In other news, the Cardinals are trying as hard as they can to give up the NL Central lead, but Cincinnati refuses to take it.

...I've never loved those Pirates more. ^_^

[+conspiracy+]

yes ggBostonkthxbai

[Dark Dragonite]

Did the stock market relocate to Boston, and crash?
I could swear I've seen tons of people jumping out of their windows...oh...the Red Sox have given up? The Yankees will win another Division?
Red Sox fans complaining about other teams buying their teams?
Curt Schilling?
Keith Fulke?
Mike Lowell?

ROFL...

[Ghost]

Yes, the Red Sox fucking crashed and burned. But then again, I suppose the yankees wanted payback for choking... HAH.

anyways, hopefully they can get on a wining streak against them, and then win the Wild Card. The White Sox and twins are fading.

And yes Mr.Pikachu, I hope the Mets kill the Cards tommorow, espically with Jeff Weaver pitching tommorow. While you may have an argument that he pitched good last time, we have John Maine going, who has been lights out. Then again, we also have Dave Williams going, I have no clue what he's like.

[Dark Dragonite]

according to one site...Williams is on the DL with cramps in both legs...

So, Mets fans, our rotation looks like:

El Duque
Trachsel
Maine

While having these guys on the DL
Pedro
Glavine(Blood clot in shoulder...could be done for year)
Williams

We SHOULD call up Brian Bannister, he's had quality starts in AAA, after rehabbing his hamstring...
Also, we COULD call up Oliver Perez...former Pirate...he is 50/50, he used to get a lot of Ks...then again, look at the lack of team around him...
Oh, and Pelfrey is in the minors, and on the DL...

[Ghost]

Sorry Drago, but according to ESPN and various other sources, Glavine could be back in by next week. Also, according to probable pithcers, Williams is pitching Thursday at the finale.

[mr_pikachu]

Could be, yes. But it's actually kind of unlikely, I think. From my understanding of the situation, the blood clot that Glavine has is a bit dangerous for a pitcher. So he has the choice of ending his season to have it removed, or keep pitching and risk screwing up his arm royally (possibly a career-ender). Yeah, he could be back by next week, but from what I've heard, that's a rather unlikely scenario, despite the Mets' position right now.


EDIT: Okay, I just read the most recent reports. I will say that in most cases, sources in situations like these don't usually lie (much). However, it is concerning that they still aren't sure whether it is, as they suspect, a series of small blood clots. It probably isn't the "knot" that they mentioned, but you never know...

[Dark Dragonite]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_yl...v=ap&type=lgns

Glavine is ok, but OUT for 7-10 days, meaning he misses 2-3 starts...

"The test showed that the symptoms are caused by an old injury to an artery probably caused by pitching," the Mets said in a statement Tuesday. "The scar tissue from that old injury occasionally causes blood clots to form in Tom's finger. The condition is not serious and will be treated with baby aspirin and other medication to help his circulation."

ALSO

"Aug 20 Williams left Saturday's New York Mets game with leg cramps. He had pitched 5 2-3 innings, allowing three runs and six hits to the Colorado Rockies.
Advice: Williams is scheduled to pitch Thursday against the St. Louis Cardinals. He is 2-3 with a 6.90 ERA in nine starts this season. "

[mr_pikachu]

Fantastic.

The Reds have pulled to within a game of the Cardinals, St. Louis is squaring off against the top team in the National League, and we're got Marquis - who truly deserves to be dropped to AA ball - pitching the rubber game. Brilliant. >_<

At least Mulder's coming back. I hope he has a good game tonight, because we really, really need it.

And lest I forget, thanks for blowing another save last night, Izzy.

[Dark Dragonite]

And lest we forget...he was at one time a top Mets starting pitcher/prospect...there were 3 that they had a nickname for...

Jason Isringhausen
Bill Pulsipher
Paul Wilson

There was also Bobby Jones...but these 3 were suppossed to be the best...all went down the same year I believe with shoulder injuries...then ended up on other clubs years later...had mediocre results...Izzy is the only one I know still in the majors...but this year, he's pulling a Pedro...

[mr_pikachu]

Mulder: 3.0 innings, 9 earned runs allowed.
Mulder's ERA: Waiting for next year to start.

Thank God the Reds lost... >_<

[Dark Dragonite]

Let's just say Oakland knew when to dump mulder and hudson...

On the brightside...you guys still have Carpenter and Pujols!!

[mr_pikachu]

Well, true. But it doesn't help when Pujols hits a grand slam and a three-run bomb and you end up losing 8-7 on a blown Izzy save... And even Carpenter hasn't been spectacular this year, but that's mostly because the bullpen can't hold a lead to save their lives (or more applicably, their jobs).

On an unrelated note, would any of you be interesting in participating in a fantasy football league for TPM? I know a couple of people are already interested, and I'm trying to see who exactly would want to do it. (No, this isn't a sign-up thread, and I'm not asking for any sort of commitment here at all. I'm just trying to get a general idea of the interest in the Misc. crowd. I know it will be completely skewed, since most of you are probably more baseball fans than football fans, but I'm taking that into account. Just... would anyone in this thread be interested?)

[Dark Dragonite]

I'd go for it, I have 2 teams already, as well as a salary cap team, and pro pick em

[Ghost]

I'm in a fantasy football league already, and i'd love to be in another one.

BTW, nice job by the mets ^^

[Dark Dragonite]

nice job almost blowing the win...I hate heilman...he was whining about starting...we get rid of benson...he's not good enough to be in the rotation, hell, we pulled Jose Lima out of our asses before giving Heilman a start...

Hopefully, we can sweep, keep this streak going though...

Oh, and now the eternal question...do we uh yahoo?

[Ghost]

I believe that Billy Beane wanted Heilman as a starter for the A's... I wonder how that would of worked out. Then again, We could still trade Heilman to the A's for someone good... Like if we could somehow get Bobby Crosby or Scutaro... lol

[Dark Dragonite]

I would take Nick Swisher from the A's...that's the only bat I like in their lineup...we don't need a SS batting .229
On the other side, I would give up Heilman, and Pelfrey/Bradford for Dan Haren, or Zito, maybe even Heilman for Loaiza and a minor leaguer...

We don't need a SS with Reyes and Woodward there, the only positions we could really use is:

Catcher...I love loduca, but he can't play every game...Castro is injured...Let's pray Atlanta, or a 3 trade deal could bring a stud in like B. McCann

Starting Pitching...We have 4 active starters? WTF...Bannister should be ready, and up...this is rediculous...rest glavine and pedro a while...we'll be paying their contracts for years, might as well try to make them last that long...

[Ghost]

Woot. We nailed the sweep, We got Bannister pitching tommorow, and Perez pitching Saturday. And we're getting a new car tommorow^^. But other then that, all I have to say is that I hope Banny and Perez both do good, and that hopefully Oliver Perez is back to his old form with the mets.

Also, Crosby plays 2B aswell. Swisher would be good too, because he can play Outfield too.