Hoothooters! Can I get sum?

[Mew Master]

I really liked the Relicanth and Trapinch-line ones. The biologist who does them knows his stuff.

[Blademaster]

Fixed your typo.

Fixed yours, as well.

Also, it looks like a Stygimoloch. As a Pokemon.

And I thought you knew dinosaurs... You gonna tell me next that Bastiodon is a Triceratops and not a Torosaurus or Zuniceratops because of your years and years of study that have led you to believe "Durrr generic dinosaur feature everybody learned from Jurassic Park means IT'S THAT DINO AND NO OTHER SPECIES NOT EVEN WITHIN THAT FAMILY CUZ THE FANCY PAPER MY KAMOONITY COLLEGE GAVE ME SAID SO!"?

...Besides, Stygimoloch looks cooler, anyway.

[Mew Master]

And I thought you knew dinosaurs...

Obviously better than U.

You gonna tell me next that Bastiodon is a Triceratops and not a Torosaurus or Zuniceratops because of your years and years of study that have led you to believe "Durrr generic dinosaur feature everybody learned from Jurassic Park means IT'S THAT DINO AND NO OTHER SPECIES NOT EVEN WITHIN THAT FAMILY CUZ THE FANCY PAPER MY KAMOONITY COLLEGE GAVE ME SAID SO!"?

Are you naturally stupid, or do you practice?

My argument had nothing to do with the horn ornamentation on Rampardos, it's the proportion of the DOME SIZE to the rest of THE SKULL. Stigymoloch has a much MUCH smaller dome in proportion to the head compared to Pachycephalosaurus.

But let's look at the facts in the scientific community. John Horner produced evidence in 2007 and 2009 at the Austin and Bristol SVP Annual Meetings for evidence that Pachycephalosaurus, Stigymoloch, and Drakorex are the same species, only at different developmental stages. Now, I was un-convinced (and when he presented at Bristol he kinda pissed off a lot of Ceratopsian paleontologists because he basically said Torosaurus was a more mature Triceratops), but he recently published an article that goes into further detail that made me re-asses this question and I'm open to the idea that they're the same species (actually you can congratulate yourself because looking up the issue brought up the paper, so pat yourself on the back for actually being useful instead of annoying).

If that's the case, then we're BOTH right because Pachycephalosaurus and Stigymoloch are the SAME THING!

Besides, it's not the little piece of paper I get for actually going to college and learning stuff, it's the fact I've actually gone to professional meetings, talked to other paleontologists, and *gasp* Presented in Bristol England last year, and I'll have an article published (hopefully) in a few months. So hate me more now Blade. Come on... Hate me more now. You know you wanna... You too DL. You can hate me too.

...Besides, Stygimoloch looks cooler, anyway.

No argument here.

[Blademaster]

Are you naturally stupid, or do you practice?

Neither. I just love watching dopes like you and Roy Karrde go insane arguing with me over semantic stuff like this. Especially considering that one of the first things I read about Stygimoloch is that it, Dracorex, and Pachy-

John Horner produced evidence in 2007 and 2009 at the Austin and Bristol SVP Annual Meetings for evidence that Pachycephalosaurus, Stigymoloch, and Drakorex are the same species, only at different developmental stages. Now, I was un-convinced (and when he presented at Bristol he kinda pissed off a lot of Ceratopsian paleontologists because he basically said Torosaurus was a more mature Triceratops), but he recently published an article that goes into further detail that made me re-asses this question and I'm open to the idea that they're the same species (actually you can congratulate yourself because looking up the issue brought up the paper, so pat yourself on the back for actually being useful instead of annoying).

If that's the case, then we're BOTH right because Pachycephalosaurus and Stigymoloch are the SAME THING!

Oh, never mind, seems the dino "expert" FINALLY decided to bring that up. Well, that may or may not be true. But if it is, then neither of us are really wrong.

However, considering Rampardos's horn size and overall height and weight (5'03" and 220 lbs. compared to 5' and 170 lbs. for Stygi and 6'+ and 250 lbs. for Pachy), it seems more Stygimoloch than Pachy. So... even if the two ARE the same creature, I'm, well... I'm MORE right.

So how about them new fluffy mammal pokemon?

Like Smugleaf?

[Mew Master]

[COLOR=White]Neither. I just love watching dopes like you and Roy Karrde ....

You HONESTLY compared me to Roy....Honestly... Fuck you too Blade.

Oh, never mind, seems the dino "expert" FINALLY decided to bring that up. Well, that may or may not be true. But if it is, then neither of us are really wrong.

It wasn't important to the discussion and bringing up that seemed a cheap way of winning. I did it in the intent of fairness... Ass.

However, considering Rampardos's horn size and overall height and weight (5'03" and 220 lbs. compared to 5' and 170 lbs. for Stygi and 6'+ and 250 lbs. for Pachy), it seems more Stygimoloch than Pachy. So... even if the two ARE the same creature, I'm, well... I'm MORE right.

No, I'd still be right. If Stygimoloch (named and described in 1983), and Dracorex (named and described in 2006) are juveniles of Pachycephalosaurus (named and described in 1931), then they'd be Jr synonyms of Pachychephalosaurus and discouraged from use, which would mean that I'm right in the correct name usage but we're BOTHr right in the species. XP

You're not right just because you say you are. Besides, your lbs for Pachy and Stygi are off (about 4k lbs for Pachy and less for Stygi [if same species or not, it's smaller, Hell Pachy's the size of a car for crying out loud, Stygi's between 10-6 ft, while Pachy can get up to 15 feet long]).

Honestly Blade, you piss me off. Stop acting like you're better than everyone and claiming your right. I swear, arguing like you is like arguing with a Creationist.

[RaZoR LeAf]

So how about them new fluffy mammal pokemon?

[Darth CookieMonster]

I think they should make more Dinosaur pokemon, like have a region in wich alot of the landmarks and terrain are mountain and dessert and stuff, so there are alot more rock ground steel pokemon.. wich can be dinosaurs n stuff.... more fossils are needed to me.. and some of the fossils SUCK. not move wise but pokemon wise... like yeah cradily is okay.. but who wants a sea barnacle in their team... besides melo.. >.> <.< lol just kidding.... but i wanna start seeing stegosaurus... and raptors and an ACTUAL rex. maybe like... baby rex.. tyranosaurus rex.. allosaurus as an evo line?? and it could be like ground... dragon... rock >.< idk

[Mew Master]

Oi! I have all of the Fossil Poke's on my team *glare*

Though for a T. rex line I'd imagine something like: Rock then Rock Dark for the final evo, just to give Tyranitar some company in his dual-typeing

[Darth CookieMonster]

Ya thats what Im saying

[Kurosakura]

I think that Denny and Dave need to stop arguing for cereal about dinosaurs, for we all know they are awesome. CASE CLOSED. >:|

[Mew Master]

To think about it. And to speculate, what kind of Fossil Based PKMN should they do?

I'd love to see a Rex PKMN. Large head and teeth, look real mean, black red and purple coloration. Exaggerated skull features (Eye ridges, jugals), tiny arms, massive head, actual theropod stance (not the kangaroo one that most bipedal PKMN seem to have). I think he'd have to be revived from a Leg Fossil (I'll give my last 1 point to whoever catches the reference first) and be Rock-Dark, cuz... we all know T. rex is evil.

They've already done pterosaurs (Aerodactyl), ammonites (Omanyte and Omastar), Trilobite/bug (Kabuto and Kabutops), crinoids (Lilleep and Cradily), Anomalocaris (Anorith and Armaldo), pachycephalosaurs (Cranidos and Rampardos), ceratopsians (Sheildon and Bastiodon), and of course the "living" fossil Relicanth. Plesiosaurs if you count Lapras and sauropods if you count Meganium and Tropius. But if we just go with fossils then it's only 7 groups of extinct animals that can be brought back in PKMN form.

I'd like to see something from the theropod line, or even a mosasaur. Dude! A Dimetrodon or Gorgonopsid! These would be awesome. Have a Dychinodont PKMN evolve into a Gorgonopsid.

[DarkestLight]

>.< Nope actually Denny. I'm not gonna hate on you. I'm not gonna go on and compare what we have and haven't done, I already know you're far ahead of me.

But I've been to meetings. I've talked with other Paleos (You included numb nuts >>) and I've seen if only for short periods the actual field work and partook in it. The only thing I haven't done yet is got that second sheet of paper/wrote a thesis (and gone to Bristol whoopdee doo dah!), so I would really appreciate it if you would

a) stop flexing mental capacity right now because we both know what we know and

b) stop taking this way too damn seriously. Until the creators of Ramparados come out and fully say "Oh its truly a Stygimoloch"-then it can be whichever anyone wants it to be-even if they're wrong. No ones proved conclusively they're the same species yet, so its open to interpretation.

Blade-you too. Stop egging him on because he doesn't know when to let sleeping dogs lie (sorry dude, you don't.) when it comes to his chosen path in life. I understand his defensiveness on the subject, but you didn't need to goad it.

I will say to both of you that I thank you for your civility in this actual argument ('specially you Blade, really. I'm really glad you didn't go into a cursing fit), but it ends now.

Anyway. yes Dimetrodon would be cool. With Chlorophyll or Dry Skin. So would a Steggie. Plate fossil ftw.

[Mew Master]

Fair nuff DL, fair nuff.

Hmmm.... a Rock-Fire stego-PKMN. I'd say Fire because of one of the proposed uses for the plates was for thermo-regulation. And giving it Chlorophyll would make sense as well to increase it's speed.

Okay... tell you want guys... I'll work my artistic magic if we come up with a list of extinct PKMN we'd like to see.

Current List:

T. rex
Stegosaurus
Mosasaur (probably Tylosaurus)
maniraptiorain
Dimentrodon/Spinosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Parasaurolophus (I was actually thinking about this earlier)
Arctic Dinos
Amphicoelias (though I dought it's authenticity, a Rock/Ghost being born from it's fossil isn't a bad idea)

Also... DL you gonna try and make SVP in Pittsburgh in October?

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

Ankylosaurus-pokemon are my wetdreams.

[DarkestLight]

Cause it is a Taun Taun. Uhh I dunno, maybe.

[Mew Master]

Cause it is a Taun Taun. Uhh I dunno, maybe.

"And that was the best day of my life."

"What about when I was born?"

"Not even close."

...

Anyway, I have a T. rex framed PKMN including it's Pre-Evo, however, the 'rex is so bad-ass I don't think it should HAVE one... but I'll post them both later with some name suggestions. And try some more sketches for the others I've got listed

Current List:

T. rex (Done with Pre-Evo)
Stegosaurus
Mosasaur (probably Tylosaurus)
maniraptiorain (Thinking three- set Evo from Velociraptor, to Deinonychus, to Microraptor. Though a Microraptor one would be cool on it's own...)
Dimentrodon/Spinosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Parasaurolophus (I was actually thinking about this earlier)
Arctic Dinos
Amphicoelias (though I dought it's authenticity, a Rock/Ghost being born from it's fossil isn't a bad idea)
Microraptor

We need more Non-Dinos guys...

[Blademaster]

Microraptor? Wouldn't a massive monster like UTAHraptor be a better final form?

Also, why group Spinosaurus and Dimetrodon together? Just because they both have sails on their back? I don't wanna start a for-real dinosaur war, but I don't like the comparison; Dimetrodon wasn't even a dinosaur. It was a pelycosaur. It's just way too much of an abuse of artistic license. Spinosaurus is something I view as being a stand-alone Pokemon. The Aerodactyl of dinos, basically. At least until something larger than it is discovered.

Anyway, we've had a pterosaur, two ammonites, two trilobites, two ancient plants, and two ancient water-dwellers. If anything, we need MORE dinosaurs. There's so much potential in terms of what Fossil Pokemon can be made. What about a Dilophosaurus fossil that becomes a Rock/Poison Pokemon? Or an ornithomimid Pokemon with Psychic abilities? Pokemon needs more fossil dinosaurs and less Goddamn Grass starter dinosaurs.

But if non-dinosaur Fossils are a priority, then... off the type of my head, I'm thinking:

-Smilodon
-Ichthyosaurus
-Andrewsarchus
-Hesperornis
-Meganeura
-Stethacanthus

A lot of Legendary Pokemon are portrayed as 'godly,' as well... It'd be awesome to see a fossil depicting the earliest Pokemon ever.

[Mew Master]

Microraptor? Wouldn't a massive monster like UTAHraptor be a better final form?

Call it anticlimatic. Though the theme was farther towards birds along the dino evolutionary line. Although I've thought of a couple different paths to go. I'll post those later.

Also, why group Spinosaurus and Dimetrodon together? Just because they both have sails on their back? ... It's just way too much of an abuse of artistic license.

Basically. I know (and anyone who has a lick of sense about paleo knows) that the two are not closely related. But in the PKMN world, since when do they follow real world evolutionary biology and taxonomic bracets?

Spinosaurus is something I view as being a stand-alone Pokemon. The Aerodactyl of dinos, basically. At least until something larger than it is discovered.

I've been arguing whether or not the T. rex version I came up with should be a Basic type or not, just cause I think it looks too awesome not to be. But the Previous Evo stage looks cool too.

-Smilodon
-Ichthyosaurus
-Andrewsarchus
-Hesperornis
-Meganeura
-Stethacanthus

A lot of Legendary Pokemon are portrayed as 'godly,' as well... It'd be awesome to see a fossil depicting the earliest Pokemon ever.

Isn't that Arcarus though? Or however you spell it's damn name?

[Blademaster]

Call it anticlimatic. Though the theme was farther towards birds along the dino evolutionary line. Although I've thought of a couple different paths to go. I'll post those later.

Maybe a branching evolutionary line for the middle form, then? Like Gloom and Poliwhirl have.

Basically. I know (and anyone who has a lick of sense about paleo knows) that the two are not closely related. But in the PKMN world, since when do they follow real world evolutionary biology and taxonomic bracets?

Hey, I'm just saying. You're the one who said "Fuck artistic license - this is SCIENCE!". Just trying to stay consistent, is all.

I've been arguing whether or not the T. rex version I came up with should be a Basic type or not, just cause I think it looks too awesome not to be. But the Previous Evo stage looks cool too.

I'm sorry, Denny, but as much as I love and revere the king... He's been dethroned. Three times. It's... It's time to move on.

Isn't that Arcarus though? Or however you spell it's damn name?

Arceus is basically the Christian God of Pokemon: Made the Universe, yet has no fossil evidence to support such an age (or anything else about it, for that matter), and is also only believed to be the god of Pokemon in a single region.

I'm talking about a Pokemon version of Grypania. THAT would be something to see if it were ever made.

[DarkestLight]

Arceus = god. It could have pooped out something and been like "naa. THAT'S A WASH"

[Mew Master]

Okay, I have 5 Fossil Poke's done and I did some thinking on names, abilities, and some moves that they could learn as well as PokeDex entries for each.

To start off with we have these-two theropod based Fossil Poke's. Let's start with the little guy up top.

Proposed Names: Fragilo
Type: Rock-Grass
Height: 2'5"
Weight: 53.2 lbs
Abilities: Quickfeet
Coloration: Main body is dull gray with the ridges being a red/crimson color.
Sexual Dimorphism: Males have smaller ridges than females.
PokeDex Entries: (PKMN) is from a group of PKMN that were the top predators in prehistoric times. Their claws could cut through rocks and tough hide with ease.

Reasoning: Fragilo (tentative) is a combination of fragilis and Allo, both latin and meaning fragile and different respectively. The design is based more off of an Allosaurus with the exaggerated eye-ridges and large claw on the hand. He was originally going to be the pre-evo to the next guy, but he may not be necessary.

The BIG guy.

Proposed names: Terrourge, Tearowrecks, Tyrannex
Type: Rock-Dark
Abilities: Arena Trap, Intimidate/Hypercutter
Height: 6'3"
Weight: 257.9 lbs
Coloration: Main body is charcoal black while the ridges and spines are a bright red. Claws are white/off-white.
Sexual Dimporphism: Females have larger spines on the skull.
PokeDex Entries: Some have thought (PKMN) to be scavengers. Recent behavior studies, however, shows the exact opposite. Strong and fast, these Pokemon were the undisputed kings of prehistory. Their jaws are strong enough to bite through metal.

Reasoning: This... is the Tyrannosaur PKMN. Massive head, exaggerated skull features, tiny little arms, and strong legs and dramatic coloring. The main design is supposed to inspire a degree of fear into their opponents. The names I tried to come up with are a variation of 'tear' 'terror' and some phonic version of 'rex.' Someone else suggested 'Earth Tyrant," so I'm still accepting name ideas. Honestly, this guy could be fine without a pre-evolution, it's just so awesome.

I'm sorry, Denny, but as much as I love and revere the king... He's been dethroned. Three times. It's... It's time to move on.

...

Dethroned? Based on what, size? You of all ppl should know size doesn't matter. Not when a T. rex has a skull that is deeper than a Spinosaurus (which has more fish in its diet and a good chance of it being partly aquatic and more crocodylian in behavior, diet, and ecology), and stronger bite force with all the muscle attachment around the temporal fenestra and jugal. Giganontasaurus, while slightly larger, doesn't have the variety in teeth size or skull depth of T. rex. Same goes for Carcharodontosaurus, which is smaller than Gigano anyway.

Tyrannosaurus rex is still the most popular dinosaur by far, and has been since it's discovery. It's one of the most easily recognizable theropods, and it's popularity continues even though it may not be the largest theropod. It's still the "Elvis" of dinosaurs, and thus, the King. And just for that Comment, the T. rex PKMN is the Aerodactyl for it's region. No evo, no pre-evo.

I'll probably give Spino a similar treatment for a different region.

In all honesty I don't mind that T. rex isn't the largest theropod out there. It filled a specific nich in our neck of the woods and is the most popular dinosaur by far (plus a lot are found back in my home state). Even if there are things that are bigger, T. rex is always the one that giant stuff is compared to, because that's what the public knows and can relate to. T. rex has his throne, and will have it. Not because the science says so (which is like comparing penis sizes between professional 'wrestlers'), but because the public does.

That and it's just that bad ass.

Now for MLG and DL, as well as a bit of my own interests, an evolution the type of which we haven't seen since.. well... Hitmontop, Hitmonlee, and Hitmonchan. The Stat-based evolution. Let's start with the cute guy up top.

Proposed names: Thyret, Thyregnite
Type: Rock-Fire
Abilities: ???
Height: 1'5"
Weight: 43.6 lbs
Coloration: Light brown with the horns and bumps being a darker brown. The circles are red, similar to the Cyndaquil line. Flames can burst forth from those spots.
Sexual Dimporphism: None.
PokeDex Entries: Traveling in herds, (PKMN) is known to go on long migrations during seasonal changes. Their fossils have been found on several continents.

Reasoning: Based on a member of the Ornithschians, specifically either Scelidosaurus or Scutellosaurus, proposed ancestors to the Ankylosauridae and Stegosauridae families of dinosaurs. Part of the names are also from the family, 'thyre' means 'shield' and the full name for this part of the taxonomy is Thyreophora and fully translated is "Shield bearing."

When this PKMN has a higher DEF than SPDEF then he evolves to the guy on the left.

Proposed names: Torpetla, Tormail
Type: Rock-Fire
Abilities: Battle Armor
Height: 3'4"
Weight: 164.4 lbs
Coloration: The edges with the spines and around the head are white, with the top being an earthy green. Smoke pours out of red hot spots on the back by the shoulders as brown osteoderms go along the spine. The tail is shaped like a lantern, and is constantly smoking or spewing flames.
Sexual Dimporphism: None
PokeDex Entries: (PKMN) can resist temperatures exceeding magma and impacts equaling meteorite. It's not very fast. When it lays down,(PKMN) becomes very difficult to flip.

Reasoning: This is the Ankylosaur of the branching evolution. When the DEF exceeds the SPDEF at lv 20, the Basic Evolves to this stage one. A heavily armored Rock-Fire similar looking to Torkoal and Torterra (smoke and shape) with a lantern for the club that spews fire and flames, able to flick out embers at it's opponents. I did this because I felt just a club at the end of it's tail would look too much line Ryperodon (Rhyhorns Second Stage Evo) and was... honestly... boring. So I made it a lantern and added spikes. It's based on a combination of Miropelta and Minotarosaurus, both Ankylosaurs. The name was a combination of "torch" and "pelta" from Miropelta, and also 'mail' a type of armor. Battle Armor seemed like a good choice for this Evo.

And when the Basic's SPDEF is higher than DEF we get the guy on the right!

Proposed names: Thagosteg, Thagoflare, Stegomizer, Charmizer, Micerchar, Thagochar, Mizersaur
Type: Rock-Fire
Abilities: Chlorophyll
Height: 4'8"
Weight: 162.3lbs
Coloration: Body is mostly tan like the Basic Evo, but the plates are flame colored, with the outside yellow and the inside section red. The crest of horns around the head and eyes are red as well.
Sexual Dimporphism: Males head-crests have larger horns.
PokeDex Entries: Solitary (PKMN) gather once a year for the breeding season where the males compeat for the females. Once a mating pair has laid eggs, the pair splits apart. Using the plates on their backs (PKMN) can control their temperature. More time in the sun giving them energy. The fires from their tails are their defensive and offensive weapons.

Reasoning: The Stegosaurus of the Evolution branch, has a couple of interesting characteristics. The 'thagomizer' (tail spikes) are actually flames that spring out much like the Cindaquil line, and is also the source for some of the names ('thago' and 'mizer', THANKS GARY LARSON! XD). I played around with having the plates be just like the fires of Quilava or Typhlosion, but decided against it, since the Basic Evo had it.

I'm talking about a Pokemon version of Grypania. THAT would be something to see if it were ever made.

...

It's a pile of sludge...

NEXT!

Hahha Denny, Arceus is a Creationist Pokemon XD

...

......

..........

OW!

DL! You made my head hurt!

Hey, I'm just saying. You're the one who said "Fuck artistic license - this is SCIENCE!". Just trying to stay consistent, is all.

And now you're taking my stance on the subject... Wow. Oh how the tables have turned.

And if you can't figure it out by now, the last three responses were sarcastic. So guys, thoughts on the PKMN? You know you wanna train the BIG guy.... You know you do.

T. rex (Done with Pre-Evo)
Stegosaurus
Mosasaur (probably Tylosaurus)
maniraptiorain (Thinking three- set Evo from Velociraptor, to Deinonychus, to Microraptor. Though a Microraptor one would be cool on it's own...)
Dimentrodon/Spinosaurus
Ankylosaurus
Parasaurolophus (I was actually thinking about this earlier)
Arctic Dinos
Amphicoelias (though I dought it's authenticity, a Rock/Ghost being born from it's fossil isn't a bad idea)
Microraptor
Smilodon
Ichthyosaurus
Andrewsarchus
Meganeura
Stethacanthus

[DarkestLight]

Hahha Denny, Arceus is a Creationist Pokemon XD. Argue all you want, it doesn't BELIEEEEVE in you.

[MeLoVeGhOsTs]

hi sup

[chaos_redefined]

Hey MLG. Not too much.

On a more general note... I've been wondering about this whole trading tower, trying to find a way for it to get more use. And I may have stumbled on to something. The problem with the trading tower is that people buy the pokemon they want. They don't really wanna let go so easily. The only ones they don't buy, they are given as gifts, and then there's the problem that you can't give them away without pissing someone off.

So... I then realized how to bypass this. Eggs. If we get lots of people buying eggs, then someone will get the pokemon you want, and may not even want it. For example, I might get a bronzor, but because I've already got a Bronzong, it's kinda pointless to get another one. In the meantime, someone else gets a Ralts. I want a ralts, and that person wants a bronzor... Trade! Everyone wins!

Of course, this isn't foolproof, it is entirely possible noone gets what you want, and it's entirely possible that the people who get what you want don't want to part with it. In addition ot that, it's possible to get stuff noone wants (male combee lol), in which case, you lose out on that point.

But, if I get enough interest, I would like to get such a system in place. So, what's people's thoughts?

[RaZoR LeAf]

Isn't that how the Trade tower works anyway? Pokemon are only given as gifts when a tree is open, and that's only for 4 months (2 in summer, 2 in winter), for the other 8 months you have to either buy or trade for the pokemon. The point of eggs is that you run the risk of getting something you don't want or already have. That's why it's only 1 point more to buy a specific pokemon in the tower. If you don't like what comes out of the egg, nothing is stopping you from trading or selling it.

[chaos_redefined]

Isn't that how the Trade tower works anyway? Pokemon are only given as gifts when a tree is open, and that's only for 4 months (2 in summer, 2 in winter), for the other 8 months you have to either buy or trade for the pokemon. The point of eggs is that you run the risk of getting something you don't want or already have. That's why it's only 1 point more to buy a specific pokemon in the tower. If you don't like what comes out of the egg, nothing is stopping you from trading or selling it.

Yeah, but noone does that. The new trading tower was up for over 6 months before it saw use. The old one saw about as much use. Eggs get slightly more use, but either everyone gets exactly what they want, or everyone forgets about the trade tower. I'm gonna guess the latter, based on the laws of probability.

[Kurosakura]

Back on the dinosaur topic! It's interesting. :3

I wanna see an archaeopteryx. Raptor with feathers! Yeah, I know, it's hardly considered a dinosaur, but wiiiiiiiings. *v* It could just have Levitate for all I care, just do something about it, Denny. >:|

[DarkestLight]

I demand a three evo raptorian set.

Denny, you should enter one of these into Smogon's CAP sessions. They always have super creative ideas there, and the stuff they came up with so far mirrors this :O.

[Mew Master]

Kuro: Technically Archaeopteryx IS a dinosaur. Which also makes all birds dinosaurs...

DL: I give you a Stego-Fossil-PKMN and THAT'S all you have to say? That and you don't tell me where it's at either XP

Anyone else?

[DarkestLight]

DL: I give you a Stego-Fossil-PKMN and THAT'S all you have to say? That and you don't tell me where it's at either XP

You gave me a split evo Stego evo. That's half fire. Which makes it undeniably all sorts of suck. So no, I comment nothing. Ok fine I'll be constrctive. Why aren't the plates fire? -.-

Smogon.com. CAP server. Check it out. I think you'll like alot. :O

[Mew Master]

So no, I comment nothing. Ok fine I'll be constrctive. Why aren't the plates fire? -.-

A good question.

I had considered this previously with an earlier sketch. The plates would be made of fire when excited and the thagomizer would be funky looking. However, going with your suggestion of seeing a Stego-Poke with Chlorophyll because of the various proposed uses for the plates as a use for thermoregulation, it made more sense for the plates to be solid permanent features rather than flame in origin (plus it seemed too much like I was taking from the Cyndaquil evo lines). It's also the Stego's most distinctive feature, like Pachy's Skull, or Raptor's sneer, or even Spino's spine. Having it be a temporary structure seemed to... be a waste and didn't fit with it having Chlorophyll.

Besides, what's wrong with it being a branching evo Rock-Fire?

[DarkestLight]

It's also the Stego's most distinctive feature, like Pachy's Skull, or Raptor's sneer, or even Spino's spine.

Besides, what's wrong with it being a branching evo Rock-Fire?

Cause I mean, a rigid structure of lumbar verterbrae reinforced with bone isn't a distinctive trait..but ok? Sneer How silly. Or a pronounced second toe....but a sneer? Wtf, really? XD

I just don't like Fire. That's just me. Yeah I thought Chlorophyll because I wanna see Chlorophyll on something else than a plant damnit. And it could be pure fire plates,like how Ponyta's mane is always there, bUt that's fire :O.,

[Mew Master]

Cause I mean, a rigid structure of lumbar verterbrae reinforced with bone isn't a distinctive trait..but ok? Sneer How silly. Or a pronounced second toe....but a sneer? Wtf, really? XD

Come on DL.. you know what movie I'm talkin bout.

[RaZoR LeAf]

Is that Agumon in the first picture?

[Blademaster]

Fragilo, Predarex, Thyret, Miromail, Thagonizer.

My votes for the names.

[Mikachu Yukitatsu]

Rieska is Finnish for unleaved bread. Ummm Rieska.

[DarkestLight]

Based off Carnosaur 3!!!

[Mew Master]

Based off Carnosaur 3!!!

.... *slap*

[DarkestLight]

Ryandude +2 points for you.

[ryandude713]

Ryandude +2 points for you.

Thank you. I didn't realize that I got points, or a thread named after me, until I saw this title on the main page.