Michelle Bachman: I want honest opinions

[Roy Karrde]

and again, you also have vast majority of the public support for a different option, so maybe there is a need to compromise? the key point is the poll also showed that there was a different plan, also supported by the vast majority of people. so to just focus on ccb and getting angry that the anchor pointed out the same level of support for a different plan is just daft.

At which point the Democrats should have put together a bill based around that plan. The specific CCB plan was polled and showed a vast majority of support. It was also the only plan that was specifically polled. If the Democrats want to outline their own plan and put one together that the public also supports they can. But it is "daft" to change a plan that already has the vast majority of support from every sector of the public.

[woz]

it obviously doesn't have the vast majority of support from every sector of the public if the poll is showing that they support a different plan at the same level. pushing through a plan that hasn't got the level of support you claim is daft, especially when it will never pass.

[Roy Karrde]

it obviously doesn't have the vast majority of support from every sector of the public if the poll is showing that they support a different plan at the same level. pushing through a plan that hasn't got the level of support you claim is daft, especially when it will never pass.

The poll break down shows this for the CCB: The CCB/BBA approach wins majorities in every single demographic — including self-described liberals. Sixty-three percent of Democrats back the House bill. The least supportive age demographic is 50-64YOs at 62/37; the least supportive regional demographic is the Midwest at 61/39. Even those who express opposition to the Tea Party supports it 53/47.

The BBA on its own does even better. It gets 3-1 support (74/24), and except for those Tea Party opponents (56%) and self-professed liberals (61/37), doesn’t get below 70% support in any demographic.

In other words yes the vast majority of the public supports the CCB, even those that oppose the Tea Party still majority support the bill.

[woz]

the source of this including the polling data and questions asked?

[Roy Karrde]

the source of this including the polling data and questions asked?

For the pure overall question here you go.

In those discussions, several budget plans have been proposed that would reduce the amount the government owes by trillions of dollars over the next ten years. If you had to choose, would you rather see Congress and President Obama agree to a budget plan that only includes cuts in government spending, or a budget plan that includes a combination of spending cuts and tax increases on higher-income Americans and some businesses?

Only spending cuts 34%
Spending cuts and tax increases 64%

In another proposal, Congress would raise the debt ceiling only if a balanced budget amendment were passed by both houses of Congress and substantial spending cuts and caps on future spending were approved. Would you favor or oppose this proposal?

Favor 66%
Oppose 33%

Would you favor or oppose a constitutional amendment to require a balanced federal budget?

Favor 74%
Oppose 24%

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/im.../21/rel11b.pdf

[Dark Sage]

Roy, CCB was never meant to pass. No-one in the House was stupid enough to believe that it would reach the President's desk. The Tea Party pushed it through to prove that they could. It was a symbolic show of their stubborness, just like their attempt to repeal the President's Health Care plan.

Your whole insistance that the Senate should have passed it is going beyond ridiculous.

And if you keep insisting on having the last word every single day, I'm going to close this post. These arguements are getting out of hand.

[woz]

question 21 has the exact same support.

[Roy Karrde]

Roy, CCB was never meant to pass. No-one in the House was stupid enough to believe that it would reach the President's desk. The Tea Party pushed it through to prove that they could. It was a symbolic show of their stubborness, just like their attempt to repeal the President's Health Care plan.

Your whole insistance that the Senate should have passed it is going beyond ridiculous.

Twenty Senate Democrats have gone on record in support of a Balanced Budget Amendment as shown here.

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=45061

That would raise the number to 66 with all the Republicans and the 20 Senate Democrats voting together. That would be the 2/3rd Majority number needed to pass the Senate. That is if the Senate were to have a up and down vote, and the Democrats were not lying.

question 21 has the exact same support.

Yes it does, but like I said since the CCB already has that number, and exceeds that number as a stand alone amendment, there is no reason to change when you already have such a heightened level of support.

[Dark Sage]

You said that already, Roy.

I've had enough. I wanted a post about Michelle Bachmann, and you turned it into a debate.

I'm tired of this. This topic is closed.