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    And screw the idiots who censored Jynx from the anime.

    PS. To the woman who protested to have Jynx banned: If I ever find you...I'm gonna hunt you down and have you killed! And I promise you...Jeannette will try to make your death a quick and painless one.
    PPS. If you can't stop anime companies doing stupid things, find out who did them and have them killed...by your own hand. Suck up to them and when they least suspect it, put them out of their misery. (Why have corporate anime company politics, when you can spice them up with a bit of assasination?)
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    PPPPS. I said enough, now I'm gonna bath in a bathtub of holy water to purge those evil thoughts from my beautiful brain.

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    Jynx pretty much IS banned - the Ice Cave ep where she shows up is banned, and I've never seen Holiday Hi-Jynx(though Zak claims he has). The only time Jynx has appeared in a non-banned ep is a cameo in the Prima ep.
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    Jeez Janette, take a chill pill!

    I don't think the FCC had anything to do with this...for once. If they did, WB wouldn't have gotten away with airing the Prima episode...and I don't just mean for Jynx, if you catch my meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misty
    Jynx pretty much IS banned - the Ice Cave ep where she shows up is banned, and I've never seen Holiday Hi-Jynx(though Zak claims he has). The only time Jynx has appeared in a non-banned ep is a cameo in the Prima ep.
    I've seen Holiday Hi-Jynx on Kids' WB but it han't been shown in a long time to my knowledge. It's probably banned now.
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    I have seen it a million times, and I have it on tape. I don't think it is banned anymore.

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    4Kids and the WB shouldn't have to do what the FCC says! So what if they get fined, at least they'll be doing us a favour for a change.

    PS. Do I still have permission to have the FCC blown straight to hell? That way, all American Tv stations can show programs the way they were meant to be intended, no racist censorship, etc. Either that, or get someone from NHK, TV Tokyo etc to get a merger going with the US stations.

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    Only available on those old DVDs and videos now, but if you ever go out looking for it, you should know that they put it way out of place. It was stuck somewhere between the 8th badge and the leauge, if I remember correctly.
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    Woah, calm down , jeeze. Seriously, re-read your post, you are over-reacting just a tad.

    I have seen the holiday jynx episode also, have it recorded somewhere...same with that tentacruel epi, and the epi where james has boobs, they showed them all on kids wb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PokeLady Jeannette
    4Kids and the WB shouldn't have to do what the FCC says! So what if they get fined, at least they'll be doing us a favour for a change.

    PS. Do I still have permission to have the FCC blown straight to hell? That way, all American Tv stations can show programs the way they were meant to be intended, no racist censorship, etc. Either that, or get someone from NHK, TV Tokyo etc to get a merger going with the US stations.
    NHK broadcasts in America under the TV Japan and NHK World. Elsewhere, you could also get NHK World Premium, which carries a few of the entertainment shows.

    TV Tokyo licences their shows, rather than broadcast internationally. As far as they're concerned, Pokémon is already licenced.

    As far as I am concerned though, the FCC has no business in the field of regulating the content of broadcasts, only the manner of broadcasts itself, i.e. safety standards, frequency allocation (of which they aren't doing well), etc.

    However. Broadcasting internationally is expensive no matter what. You need satellites, which do not have a worldwide footprint (i.e. locations where the signal can be received). A fleet of satellites, no, one satellite alone is very expensive, and if you don't have your own, then you'd need to lease bandwidth from providers, and bandwidth is limited.

    In any case. Broadcasting shows as the creators intended is rarely done. There are cuts to make it fit time (Lord of the Rings anyone?), laws to follow, audiences to reach (Only a couple hundred million people speak Japanese worldwide). And translation is more difficult than you think. There are words which cannot be glossed simply (i.e. a simple word substitution). Other times, there are puns which do not translate. (kinoko / hinoko "mushroom / ember" came out as amber / ember, for instance.) Then, there is culture, which no amount of footnotes will do justice to, for instance, for instance, itadakimasu, which is said before meal, which is the distal (i.e. more polite to the listener) form of the verb itadaku, which is a humble (to the person giving) verb meaning to recieve, with a connotation of being grateful, yadda, blah. The language barrier is higher than you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P0RYG0N
    Only available on those old DVDs and videos now, but if you ever go out looking for it, you should know that they put it way out of place. It was stuck somewhere between the 8th badge and the leauge, if I remember correctly.
    Technically, no. It was waaaaaaaay before the 8th badge. Ash still had Charmander in the eps if I recall. Ash had Charmeleon since just after the Koga battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P0RYG0N
    ...you should know that they put it way out of place
    When the episodes Holiday Hi-Jynx and Snow Way Out first aired, they were wayyyyy past due. And one of the most obvious things about them (Or at least, I know for sure on Snow Way Out) was that Charmander was still... a Charmander. And since they didn't wait for the whole series to finish before putting episodes out on video, they either had to stick it in late, or nowhere.

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    The Porygon episode came on a week before that episode was meant to air, meaning when Pokémon came back on the air eight months later, that episode was postponed until Christmas, about thrity episodes after Lizardon (Charizard) was fully evolved.

    When TV Tokyo/Shogakukan shipped over the episodes to 4Kids, they marked them wrong, meaning 4Kids waited to dub it about six months after it's meant airing, which was after 4Kids themselves shipped out about the first thirty dubbed episodes to Kids WB! and YTV.

    As for Rougela (Jynx), I don't think it was the FCC's choice to ban her, rather it was 4Kids taking precautions. So far, they banned two episodes that featured her predominately, and cut out a thirteen second scene with her in a Pokémon Contest in AG 013. So far, she hasn't been seen in any episodes/specials/OVAs/movies in Japan since, because I bet 4Kids told them not to feature her anymore, sadly.

    And even though GAME FREAK changed her from black to purple starting from Ruby/Sapphire because Nintendo of America was doing it since Gold/Silver, and even though her colours were changed in Ken Sugimori's art, I guess 4Kids is playing it safe.

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    There's an interesting old topic on this issue on Toon Zone, so if any of you are interested: http://forums.toonzone.net/showthrea...hlight=Ganguro
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    See! It's not so (beep) hard, Not4N***ers Entertainment. Just digitally change the colour of Jynx's skin from black to purple and for once in your life, break a few FCC rules for crying out loud. (Besides, the fines are a small price to pay to get Jynx back on the screen).

    PS. I had to bleep out the N-word. Is okay?

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    Woah, woah, woah. By saying "Not4N*****", you're saying that 4Kids is prejudiced against recent African decendants, or what you put, the n-word. They're trying to be sensitive to those who are recent African decendants, which is why they're playing it safe and cutting those episodes and scenes out, which I agree is stupid, because Rougela definitely isn't a charicature of dark-brown people.

    Please be careful in your choice of words in the future.
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    So let me get this straight

    It's OK to censor Jynx becuase she appears to be a black drag queen
    but we can't censor Mr Mime for being an obnoxious little white boy??
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    For some reason, in America and Canada, it's okay to make jokes about how lame recent European decendants are (they can't dance, they're so lame, they have no rhythm, they can't jump, cracka-ass), but if you make a joke about a dark-skinned person, then it's not okay.

    Personally, I don't think either are okay.
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    It depends on the race of the person saying it, really. That seems to be how it goes.

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    Oh, please. CLOSE THIS THREAD!
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    The FCC is run by a black dude who sucks up to the demands of soccer moms. What the **** were you expecting?

    Soccer moms.. always trying to ruin this ****ing country. Its such a saddening fact that there are people out there in the US who moan and bitch about every single little thing out there, and yet Japan gets away with brief nudity in anime.

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    Wow, if I was a mod here, this thread would be closed for Kari & Mewtwo's and PokeLady Jeanette's racist comments. A Pokemon board is the last place you guys need to be throwing the n-word around.

    I could go on and on about how the people who don't see that Jynx is a negative stereotype are idiots and how it makes sense that she was banned, but instead of beating that dead horse to a pulp I'll just point you to the big write-up I did some time ago.

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    Sorry bout that, I didn't intend for it to be racist but I'll change it anyway.

    Also speaking of stereotypes, I once saw a picture of Jynx on a page loaded with racist jokes (some of them were actually pretty damn funny, especially the Jewish & Polish ones)

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    Stereotype - Black people smell bad.
    FALSE - Black people smell great. I love the smell of fried chicken and watermelon


    Stereotype - Stereotypes are always ill-mannered and mean.
    FALSE - They can be funny when you're obviously not serious*points up*

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    Jeanette, I can't believe your 30 years old and still acting like a child.

    PS Please grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari & Mewtwo
    Sorry bout that, I didn't intend for it to be racist but I'll change it anyway.

    Also speaking of stereotypes, I once saw a picture of Jynx on a page loaded with racist jokes (some of them were actually pretty damn funny, especially the Jewish & Polish ones)
    *cough*XD good to see SOMEONE over at SPP likes me.


    But Jeanettes attitude and personality has taken a spike lately...perhaps her mother passed off the name to her daughter? Or another relative?

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    Or maybe you guys are freaking out over a Pokemon?

    meh, screw the aclu,. jynx is funny
    especially that voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu
    I could go on and on about how the people who don't see that Jynx is a negative stereotype are idiots and how it makes sense that she was banned, but instead of beating that dead horse to a pulp I'll just point you to the big write-up I did some time ago.
    Again, your opinion, but like I said on Toon Zone:

    * Pokémon was being developed in 1995, and was released in 1996 -- the height of the ganguro fad.
    * Adults (people who developed Red and Green) were particularily fed up of ganguro.

    All meaning Rougela is a ganguro caricature, and all people who don't see that are idiots. It's funny that you mention "long, blonde hair" as a point for her being racist. To those of you who don't know, the ganguro would tan their skins to a dark-brown, exentuate their lips with white or pink lipstick, and die their hair blonde. If anything, they were trying to look like California beach blondes. If Rougela really was meant to be a caricature on recent African decendants, she would have black, curly hair.


    A ganguro.


    How Rougela used to look.


    How she looks now.


    For those of you who don't know, the ganguro fad was a fad that started in around 1994, gained strength in 1995, and started to fade at the end of 1999. Girls would die their hair blonde, tan their skin to a dark brown, and wear makeup on their lips. Some to look like hiphop artists from America, and some to look like Californian actresses. Stupid, stupid fad.

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    Edit: I cleaned up the thread. Please, no prejudiced "jokes", comments, etc. This thread is just about Rougela and her censoring. Please remember -- this is a Pokémon message board, alright? I know for a fact a lot of little kids come here, so keep it clean and friendly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu
    There are a few problems with that. For one thing, why would Game Freak base a pokemon on a fad that no one would remember a few years later? That would be like having a Pog pokemon or a Beanie Babies pokemon--yeah, you'd get a laugh out of it at the time, but it would look exteremly dated.

    Another problem is the date. The ganguro girl fad started in the mid-90's, right? Or at least that's when it reached its peak. However, Satoshi Tajiri and his crew at Game Freak started work on the game in the early nineties. It took them six years to finish Red/Green (that number, by the way, comes from the Time Magazine article that ran in the November 22nd, 1999 issue). Now, we don't know WHEN during that six-year period Jynx was created, but I doubt it was some sort of last-minute addition. I'm sure that it was thought up of early in the game developing process, which would place its conception BEFORE the ganguro fad started in Japan.
    Also...

    You can't tell me Japanese people don't see black people in their everyday lives
    They don't. I've been here in Japan since March, only going home for a month in late July/early August for summer vacation. And you know what? I've only seen about five black people in Japan, and three of those were Americans who were living in the same dorm as I am. There just AREN'T many black people at all around here. Japanese people DON'T have daily contact with black people. To them, they're just these characters in the movies and in music videos who are removed from their everyday lives. Seeing a particular group of people on TV and interacting with them in day-to-day life are two completely different things.
    And now, to reply directly:

    Quote Originally Posted by Animelee
    To those of you who don't know, the ganguro would tan their skins to a dark-brown,
    Rougela's skin is black, not dark brown.

    exentuate their lips with white or pink lipstick,
    Rougela has red (or...well, rouge) -colored lips.

    I honestly think that your fandom for Pocket Monsters is blinding you to the truth that Rougela is based on a negative stereotype. You seem to be under this mindset that the creators of one of your favorite franchises would never even consider placing a racist image in the show, but the truth is that they did. You can deny it all you want and hide behind your ganguro theory, but I'm afraid that I strongly disagree with your logic on this one.

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    My fanboysim isn't getting in the way this time. Usually when my fanboyism gets in the way, it's in terms of where I spend my time or money, but not my
    way of looking at something realistically.

    I have some art in game guides and wallscrolls with her, and in a few, she has pink lips. Besides, not all dark-skinned people have red/pink lips, some have lips that match the rest of their dark skin, too, like my dad.

    Yeah, she has black skin, but do any humans truly have black skin? Even in middle Africa, the place that receives the most UV rays, people aren't black, they're a very dark brown. If Rougela was truly a caricature, she would be dark brown, with black, curly hair, with a weird-shaped head and a fat bottom lip, like in those old prejudiced Warner Bros. cartoons.

    She has black skin because she's an Esper and and Ice-type. Look at her dress, she's an ice princess. I've read different stories about an ice princess who was so jealous that she would freeze any of her lovers if she even thought they were looking at any other women than her, and they even said in the book that she had a black heart.

    And isn't it funny that no one thought she was a stereotype until that lady published her article? Honestly, when you looked at her for the first time when you first became a fan in '97/'98, did you think she was a hateful Pokémon?

    Like I keep saying, she's based on a ganguro, and the "ice princess" thing, hence her black skin, hence the flashy dress, hence the reason she's Esper/Ice, hence the reason she has long, straight, blonde hair. Tell me if you've seen people in those old cartoons or on any toothpaste boxes with long, straight, blonde hair.

    Edit: The reason she has big lips is because of her most likely because of her move "Demon Kiss", which just supports the "ice princess" theory of mine even more.

    Edit 2: See, look at her arms, she has one of those arm-length "princess" gloves on, like Princess Peach from the Mario franchise.

    Like I said, I don't see how anyone can see a "black" stereotype.
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    Holiday Hi-Jynx isn't banned in the Uk. I've seen it on Toonami many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogasu
    Rougela's skin is black, not dark brown.
    Did you even read his post? He said to look like North American hiphop stars. It probably wasn't to be tan but to get as dark as possible. Besides, the trend in the mid 90s seemed to be for black women in hiphop to be as light skinned as they could be.


    Rougela has red (or...well, rouge) -colored lips.
    And Pink is a shade of WHAT color?
    Survey SAYS! RED.
    I honestly think that your fandom for Pocket Monsters is blinding you to the truth that Rougela is based on a negative stereotype. You seem to be under this mindset that the creators of one of your favorite franchises would never even consider placing a racist image in the show, but the truth is that they did.
    Oh yeah, they purposely decided "Hey let's piss everyone off. That's a great idea."

    I think you're just trying too hard.
    You can deny it all you want and hide behind your ganguro theory, but I'm afraid that I strongly disagree with your logic on this one.
    You're splitting hairs. Why not get on Houndoom for being a nazi because the Nazis may have used rottweilers to attack the jews? Or Gligar! Who's to say all gliding scorpions would be purple? That's unfair to non-purple gliding scorpions! And why stop their? I've always found Chansey offensive. It has short hair in a somewhat flip-style, cut short, tipped with red, and it's big and round. That's an obvious attack on how americans are obese and it offends me that they think we're nothing but pink, overstuffed mothers with colored hair! It's quite offensive!

    And not all bulls charge. I demand all episodes with Tauros are taken out as they are unfair to wild bulls who do not use their tails to whip themselves into a rage!!


    EDIT - After reading Animelees post, he brings up a good point. Why would a black woman be an ICE and PSYCHIC type? Neither type fits the look of Jynx unless she's an ICE SPIRIT...Plus she kisses opponents, which puts them to sleep*The ice princess of legend lured men away and when they slept, kissed them which caused them to eventually freeze to death*.

    Lombre and Ludicolo may be stereotypes, but they aren't negative stereotypes the way Rougela is.
    This is absolute bull and you know it. How the hell is a Lombre(it's name is even based off Hombre...) less of a stereotype, or less of a "bad" stereotype? He doesn't look too interested in much of anything, he's rather grumpy, not that great in battle. Even as he evolves and becomes a more jovial fellow, he still doesn't seem to like to do anything but dance. One could say this was an unfair stereotype of mexicans being lazy an only wanting to goof off?

    And about Speedy Gonzalez, I believe it was eventually contested how negative a superfast, quick thinking, quick-witted mexican mouse was, considering he was the opposite of most stereotypes.

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    Even though I am a huge fanboy, I do agree that Jynx was based off one of those black people. However, I do not think that Jynx should be banned.

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    You are all fools. The creators of the damned game have said the reason she is black is because she is actually a shadow or something. I can't remember the correct word they used but they said she was some enchanted shadow-witch or something, not a f*cking gollywog.
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    Really? I guess I'll look for it on Google. Not that I don't believe you, I just want to get the exact quote for everyone to see.

    LOL, I searched for Gollywog, too. Did they get banned, too?
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    I am 95% sure that either Game Freak or Nintendo said Jynx was a shadow-creature or a dark-spirit or a ghost or something like that. Can't remember where I read it.

    I'm not sure of the fate of the gollywogs. They used to be toys for children (in Enid Blyton's Noddy, one of the families in Toytown was the Gollywogs) but I think someone pointed out they were racist so yeah, they were probably banned. I still have an apron with a picture of a gollywog on.
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    I have some art in game guides and wallscrolls with her, and in a few, she has pink lips. Besides, not all dark-skinned people have red/pink lips, some have lips that match the rest of their dark skin, too, like my dad.
    The vast majority of the artwork I've seen with the character (which includes the official promo art for the anime, pre-purple skin) has her with red lips.

    Besides that, ganguro typically had white lipstick on, not red.

    Yeah, she has black skin, but do any humans truly have black skin?
    It's based on a STEREOTYPE. Stereotypes, by their nature, exaggerate features that the people making the stereotype have noticed. People typically call African Americans black? Then let's give them black skin!

    And isn't it funny that no one thought she was a stereotype until that lady published her article? Honestly, when you looked at her for the first time when you first became a fan in '97/'98, did you think she was a hateful Pokémon?
    When I first saw her in 97/98, I thought the same thing I thought when I first saw Mr. Popo in Dragon Ball Z..."Damn, that's pretty obvious."

    And the woman wrote the complaint like a week or two after "Holiday Hi-Jynx" first premiered. It's not like she sat around for a few years before writing the article.

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    Did you even read his post? He said to look like North American hiphop stars. It probably wasn't to be tan but to get as dark as possible. Besides, the trend in the mid 90s seemed to be for black women in hiphop to be as light skinned as they could be.
    Again, her black skin reminds people of the stereotype, not the way African Americans really are. Two very different things there.

    Oh yeah, they purposely decided "Hey let's piss everyone off. That's a great idea."

    I think you're just trying too hard.
    In Japan, no one gives a sh*t about offending black people. Why? Because there aren't any in Japan. Like I said before, when I went, I only saw a very small handful, and most of those were students from America who were on the same study abroad program that I was. For most Japanese people, black people aren't real--they're just funny things you see on MTV and movies.

    I'm not saying that they're purposely trying to piss African Americans off. But the Japanese are very ignorant of what's considered racist and what isn't. I've seen blackface caricatures around Japan. I've heard Japanese people scream out "What's up n*****!!" thinking that it's something cool to say. They honestly don't know any better.

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    You are all fools. The creators of the damned game have said the reason she is black is because she is actually a shadow or something. I can't remember the correct word they used but they said she was some enchanted shadow-witch or something, not a f*cking gollywog.
    Of course they said that. NOA isn't going to step up and say "yeah, she's based on negative stereotypes of black people."

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    For most things I can see if it's a negative stereotype, but I've seen native African art that looks like that. So...why is it offensive when someone of another race draws it? I know it's associated with offensive comics and all, but was it the art that was really considered offensive? I thought it was the situations the charactures were put in, and how they were made to act, rather than how they looked.

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    Dogasu, you're making the Japanese sound like these innocent little children that don't know about the world. I've only seen Kazakhstanian people on TV, but if I ever saw a Kazakhstanian person in real life, you think I'd say, "Hey, where's your goat?!"

    Just because there are hardly any brown people in Japan doesn't mean the Japanese people are going to say, "Wow, a 'black' guy! That's incredible!" when seeing one.

    Maybe you're speaking on behalf of the older generation, but Satoshi Tajiri and most of his crew were born after the World War II era, thus meaning they're more worldly because of the changing culture when they were growing up. There's no doubt they'd be seeing Motown music on TV growing up. It's not like brown people were things he and his crew only saw in National Geographic magazines, or something.

    And why would someone base a Pokémon on people who have recent African ancestry? Is Barriered (Mr. Mime) a caricature on the French, saying they're all pansy, pale sissies who never use force, and just pretend to do things? I bet if peach-skinned people were the minority in North America, then some of them would be complaining about Barriered. I mean, basing a Pokémon on a supposedly "mysterious" population of people (even though Japanese culture was emulating American culture since the early seventies) is like basing a Pokémon on a pencil.

    Yeah, I could see why it would be weird to base a Pokémon on a teenage fad, but I do see more of a similarity with the ice princess theory now. After all, there are a lot of Pokémon based on fairy tales, like Rokon/Vulpix and Tylto/Swablu.

    There's no denying the long, blonde hair that represents those European fairy tale princesses like Rupunzel or Cinderella. The white forearm-legth gloves, and the ballroom dress, too; think Zelda or Princess Peach. Then remember, she's an Esper and Ice-type, because she's one of those dark-souled princesses that lure men (wiggling hips), and kisses them with her seductive pouty lips, putting them to sleep with "Demon Kiss". And like Heald said, they said she's a shadow witch or something, which gives us another reason why she's literally black-skinned, and why her signature move is called Devil Kiss.

    Even disregarding what Heald said, the theory that Rougela was based on the ice princess fairy tale makes a lot of sense.

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    Once again, to reiterate Animelees points: Why else would she be Ice/Psychic? Neither type fits a stereotypical black person at all.

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    Meh, Rougela/Jynx (I think 99%+ of us refer to her as Jynx) doesn't really seem to be THAT blatant... I mean, the manner she acts yeah, but she acts more like that aunt you don't want to kiss than a black whore.

    Maybe the name, rougela = rouge + ella? I think she might just be a whore in general. Seriously, she was gonna be colored SOME color skin, get over it so she's black. I don't see Ash running around with Asian features, other than his black hair.

    If people just didn't CARE, things wouldn't happen.

    People have to realize that discriminations in the past WERE made and DID happen, you can't erase it from history. 150 years ago, black people were slaves. 250 years ago, Americans were tax-slaves to the British. 50 years ago, non-whites didn't even have civil rights. That's stuff that DID happen.

    So panicking over jokes about black people from pre-Martin Luther King Jr. is just, well, historically irrelevant? Back in those days, people made fun of blacks. Oh well. Can't help it. We still do it today but it isn't politically correct and it shouldn't be on TV of all things. But trying to purge it from the history books is another matter altogether.

    Japanese people make fun of blacks, oh well let them, not my problem, and I'm sorry if you're hurt by it, but go complain to Japan or something, because at least in America, for the most part we don't do that crap anymore.

    I DO agree that the woman had a point in saying that Jynx was portrayed as a black stereotype. Changing her skin color to purple solved the problem HERE, sure, but that doesn't change the fact that there is racism in japan.

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    Jynx's outfit reeks of being from the North, she always reminded me of a Viking lady on one of those ships, hence the Ice aspect.

    Jynx has powers to persuade, manipulate and perform telekinetic attacks: hence the Psychic aspect.

    The only thing fishy about the Pokemon, though, is the given name Jynx... if she's harmlessly a Norse goddess or something like that, shouldn't she bear a name similar to Lorelei's? I don't know much about Norse paganism (but my friend Phil IS norse pagan), but say Balder, the god of beauty in Norse paganism. A name based on that would be relatively harmless, or something that makes her seem less... idk... like she jinxed Nintendo?

    also, Skadi-- Norse Goddess of snow, skiing, hunting and independence. Something cute like Skadi?

    This is the first mention of Skadi speaking in the Norse mythology:
    Then Skadi said this:

    I could not sleep
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    the bird that flew
    each dawn from the deep.

    Wouldn't that just tie in just dandy to the Pokemon storyline? Draw an Articuno reference at the same time.
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    The ganguro argument is a pretty vaild one, the only thing that throws me off is the existance of Mr.Popo. He and Jynx look way to alike to easily say they have no connection, and I strongly doubt Mr.Popo was based off of the ganguro fad in any way. (And I'm not sure, but he was created years before that anyway, wasn't he?)
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