With those movesets, I'd definitely go with Glaceon over Flareon.
Ok! So, with the new generation, us Eevee lovers can finally make a full team of non-repeating Eeveelutions, not including the weak, baby Eevee as well. And with that, I'd like to see what everyone around here thinks, as well as give me comments to help develop them a bit better!
Items and EVs have always been a problem for me to decide on, so those are two focuses I need the most help with.
Undine @: Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Impish
WishOk, short explanation here. Wish and Substitute here are an idea for a staller-tank-thing... As for the second two spots, the first ones deal with Glaceon on the team and preserves Vaporeon's tankishness. Acid Armor to boost it's defense and Last Resort, since I'll have already used all 3 other moves to set him up. The second set of moves is for Flareon's inclusion, giving him some power over the types that Glaceon used to cover for.
Substitute
Acid Armor / Surf
Last Resort / Ice Beam
Volt @: [None]
Ability: Volt Absorb
Nature: Timid
ThunderboltHere, the idea is to set up some defense for the party (he'll most likely be my lead) then scare off the setup of the other team after snatching their hold item away.
Light Screen
Roar
Covet
Luna @: Sitrus Berry
Ability: Synchronize
Nature: Quiet
PsychicNow this, I will admit, was a rather novel idea on my part, considering Espeon has the movepool to pull this off. Curse away, upping Attack and Defense and lower Speed. Then, pull out Trick Room, temporarily nulling the Speed reduction and Baton Pass everything off to another Pokemon (probably Leafeon or Flareon).
Trick Room
Curse
Baton Pass
Shadow @: King’s Rock/Razor Fang
Ability: Synchronize
Nature: Bold
Dark PulseRather standard annoyer/staller... Toxic and Swagger to inflict colateral damage, Dark Pulse (plus King's Rock/Razor Fang) for flinching, and Wish for self or switch recovery (Glaceon) or Moonlight for extra healing power (Flareon).
Toxic
Swagger
Wish / Moonlight
Sylph @: Muscle Band
Ability: Leaf Guard
Nature: Adamant
Leaf BladeHelpful and diverse physical sweeper for the team, covering plenty of weaknesses that the Eeveelutions typically couldn't cover in the past. Dig is there for those pesky Electrics (and Steels, if I choose Glaceon). It's surely up for change if someone has a better suggestion, particularly if Flareon comes to be the better choice.
Aerial Ace
X-Scissor
Dig
Celsius @: Wise Glasses
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Modest
HailObviously, a Special Sweeper that can give itself a small evasion boost. Glaceon helps cover the moves that my tanky Vaporeon lacks. Besides making a drastic change to Vaporeon, Glaceon is the only good Special Sweeper for the team, but I'm kinda wishy-washy between this and Flareon...
Ice Beam
Water Pulse
Shadow Ball
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Efreet @: Heat Rock
Ability: Flash Fire
Nature: Adamant
Will-O-WispFlareon helps cover some type weaknesses that Glaceon makes awkward to do. Will-O-Wisp to help drop those harsh Physical attacks. Sunny Day is there to boost Fire Fang (which I chose over Flamethrower for its flinching, same with Thunder Fang on Jolteon) as well as initiate Leafeon's Ability. I'm having trouble deciding between Glac or Flar, since Flar gives me more advantages for my team, but a second physical attacker...
Sunny Day
Fire Fang
Iron Tail
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With those movesets, I'd definitely go with Glaceon over Flareon.
/does weakness analysis/ Hmm...are you sure you want to use Espeon, Umbreon and Leafeon all on the same team? That's a 3x Bug weakness, which is no longer as much of a joke as it once was.
Other than that, no 3x weaknesses are possible on an Eevee team that doesn't include Eevee itself, but for your information, here are the 2x weaknesses you might be looking at:
FIGHTING: Umbreon and Glaceon.
FIRE: Leafeon and Glaceon.
GROUND: Flareon and Jolteon.
ROCK: Flareon and Glaceon.
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All I gotta say is dig is unreliable on Leafeon. I'd replace it and/or x-scissor with swords dance, and if you're willing to drop both, protect.
And Aqua Ring is teh suck. Wish ftw.
Yar, I've analyzed the weaknesses completely myself... The 2x weaknesses aren't big issues, and even with the better Bug moves out there now, this isn't a really serious team anyway (none of my Eeveelution teams are). I was just making something functional.
Second, Dig is the ONLY damaging Ground move that the Eevees get. Even if it does suck ass... Another thing is that I don't need Swords Dance with my Curse-Passing Espeon. And Protect here is kinda useless for me on Leafeon, since he's used as a Phys Sweeper for my team.
Aqua Ring is there because, with that set up, I'm in no hurry to heal...
Any other suggestions on Items? Maybe EVs? Or if I should keep Flareon or Glaceon?
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Kono basho ga doko darou to miagereba matataku hoshi
Sono shita de kimi wo omoeba warukunai yoru ni naru
Fuan wo kazoeta yubi ni
Nukumori ga tomoru
Shinjiru to iu kotoba wo kimi wa kodomoppoi to warau kai
Miwatasu kagiri no kouya de yukusaki wo shimesu mono
Mune ni daite aruitekou
Sekai ga wazuka ni kagayaku
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Thunder fang is physical attack.
Timid is reduce attack/raise speed.
:V
And your Luna should be quiet natured.
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Yeah, when I put that up, I hadn't edited my Natures to suit my movesets yet..... Since Volt will probably be my opener, I tossed Thunderbolt on him instead of Thunder Fang (since I was using that to go along with the Curse stuffs...). So Timid still works for him, but as for Luna, yes... Her Nature needs to be changed, as I was originally gonna have Iron Tail on her (another Curse-themed thing).
Matataku Hoshi no Shita de
Kono basho ga doko darou to miagereba matataku hoshi
Sono shita de kimi wo omoeba warukunai yoru ni naru
Fuan wo kazoeta yubi ni
Nukumori ga tomoru
Shinjiru to iu kotoba wo kimi wa kodomoppoi to warau kai
Miwatasu kagiri no kouya de yukusaki wo shimesu mono
Mune ni daite aruitekou
Sekai ga wazuka ni kagayaku
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