What The Heck PokéWalker. FAIL.

[Poryhedron]

When the PokéWalker was first announced, people wondered how a pokémon levelling up would work. Would it be the same as in Day Care, with evolution not happening and moves being automatically learned and replaced?

I can now say from experience that it is NOT like Day Care.

IT'S WORSE.

As with Day Care, evolution does not happen. I put a Weedle in the PokéWalker enough times to get it up to level 7. It is still a Weedle.

Moves, however, also do not happen WTF. I put a L2 Pidgey, who only knows Tackle, in the PokéWalker enough times to get it up to L5, which is when they're supposed to learn Sand-Attack. It did not learn the move. Both of these despite the fact that the levelup is clearly announced and there is an obvious point at which the move-learning and evolution dialogues could have been placed.

Conclusion: Putting your pokémon in the PokéWalker is A BAD IDEA unless you've already completed their moveset or you know for a fact that the next levelup is not supposed to result in a new move or evolution.

In closing, What. The. Heck. PokéWalker.

[classy_cat18]

I still use mine. Since I can't get around to playing the game most of the time, I put my Pokemon in the Pokewalker to get it happy.

[Starry Might]

I was wondering how that stuff worked...thanks for the warning.

That said, if I do decide to use mine, I'll just use a non-team, non-HM slave Pokemon or two or three who I've designated solely for Pokewalking (which was an idea I had before I read this). How's that?

[Blademaster]

This isn't really a big issue for me. I can still chuck Magikarp or some useless happiness-evolving Pokemon into the thing since they level up slow as Hell and have no good moves anyway. And if I miss something I got Heart Scales out the ass, so there I go.

[DarkestLight]

Yeah its not really supposed to be used for levelling. But rather for item finding and happiness.

Side note. 10K steps before you'll have a chance for Flying Pikachu. If you didn't already know.

[Jeff]

Greatly reduced to 7,500 if you have an electric, ground, or grass type.

[DarkestLight]

>> So that means...wtf ever 9500/4 is and minus that number=Surf Pika. Yay. Doing that now.

[Blademaster]

9500/4 = 2375

I just clip the thing to my pants leg and let my restless leg syndrome take cake of the rest.

[Shadow Wolf]

9500/4 = 2375

I just clip the thing to my pants leg and let my restless leg syndrome take cake of the rest.

I tried that! Epic Fail! But I think it might work on people with larger legs (5'4" tall = short legs)

Anyway, Poor Entei is going to be fed up with heart scales, but he scored me two flying Pikachu, so I'm happy. Going for Surf Pika now.

[Jeff]

Man, what a pain in the butt. Must've blown through 500 watts to catch 3 Pikachus all at 2 exclamation marks. Only saw three once and that one got away. Transferred the yellow fellows back to my game, the first two were the ones with flail, I was about to scream, then saw that the last one was a MODEST surfing Pikachu. So it's all worth it.

[DarkestLight]

>> The steps reset.

That's annoying as hell. And no, its 9500-2375=7125 steps to get a surf pika, Shadow Wolf

[Jeff]

Yeah, they reset each day, but it does keep track of your total steps. Took me forever to realize that the 10,000 steps referred to your daily steps and not your total steps. I don't think I do that much walking in a week, much less a day.

[Blademaster]

Wait, how does this...

OK, I never showed interest in this thing, but I'm curious now: What Pokemon can be gotten out of this miniature red-and-white GameBoy ONLY? As in, what Pokemon are PokeWalker exclusive?

[Ultimate Charizard]

Skitty, Carvanha, Wailmer, Feebas, Castform, Tropius, Snorunt, Shellos, Spiritomb, Finneon and Snover.

Not sure but im sure ive seen Torchic on one sites lists. Dunno if that was an error of some kind.

[Jeff]

According to Serebii, you can get Torchic in one of the event routes, but it has an encounter rate of 1% and requires 10,000 steps, making it even rarer than the surfing and flying pikas.

[DarkestLight]

I got 3 flail Pikas. Transferred them Have no watts now. Aggravated.

But wait, so If I have reached 10K steps total, I can find these Pikas, or do I need 10K a day? Cause ..I happen to make around 9K a day...but still

[Jeff]

10k a day, but like I said, throw an electric, ground, or grass type in there and it's only 7,500. I got my surfing pika with less than 10,000 steps.

[Ultimate Charizard]

Yeah ive got lots of basic Pika's, lots of Flail Pika's, one with Volt Tackle but that surfer is eluding me and i really want one to replace my Ampharos.

[DarkestLight]

Ugh. That's really annoying. Ok Hoppip, back in there.

[Ultimate Charizard]

GOT ONE! lol.

Surfing Pika, mild nature... complete with Thunderbolt ready to go

Hmm, with Surf theres no need for Iron Tail. Now what am i gonna replace Quick Attack with?

[Blademaster]

Iron Tail for Ice-type coverage?

And I meant exclusive as in Flying Pikachu, Surfing Pikachu, Breakdancing Pikachu, all that sorta shit. Where is it and how do I get it. I want it.

[Ultimate Charizard]

There are a few Walker routes that you can only get through events but there arent any 'special' pokemon announced other than the Pika's atm. They just give you access to harder to find things like Torchic.

[DarkestLight]

>_O I cannot for the life of me get a Surfing Pia, much less a flying Pika. Ima run 6 mile tomorrow, get my watts up. Sick of Flail Pika.

[Poryhedron]

The PokéWalker can produce pokémon that know moves dozens of levels before they should; TMs, Egg Moves and Move Tutor moves; and even some holding rare and useful items...but the various Pikachu seem to be the only ones with moves or items that they can only have from the PokéWalker...actually, no, there's one more. There's a Munchlax that knows SelfDistruct, and finding that one requires an Event course that's known as either Champ Path or Winner's Path.

[Blademaster]

OK, I can probably look all this up elsewhere (I actually did.), but one last question: What exactly are these 'Events?' I saw there's like 10 routes that are Event-unlockable only. I am NOT going to fucking Toys R Us ten times just to make this 20 year-old knickknack work all the way.

Also, slightly off-topic question, but Pory. It's been months. Where the heck is this badass awesome Ferral challenge of yours?

[DarkestLight]

OK, I can probably look all this up elsewhere (I actually did.), but one last question: What exactly are these 'Events?' I saw there's like 10 routes that are Event-unlockable only. I am NOT going to fucking Toys R Us ten times just to make this 20 year-old knickknack work all the way.

You may not have to. Like the Pikachu Forest, it was offered over Nintendo WiFi so if you have wireless in your home (I don't remember if you do or don't) you can just log on to Nintendo WFC from your DS and snag it.

Also, slightly off-topic question, but Pory. It's been months. Where the heck is this badass awesome Ferral challenge of yours?

I second this. Granted, the announcement of B/W now does open the possibility of a type/moveset change that may better complement your team and you could have put everything on pause until you see all your options...but yah Im curious.

[Poryhedron]

Breeding pokémon with the right gender, Nature, and high IVs takes a while, especially for someone who doesn't typically play more than a few hours a day...and two of my intended team members use Hidden Power to fill gaps in their movesets, so I have to be even more anal about IVs for them...and I haven't even considered Black/White, though Heart/Soul did cause one of my team members' movesets to change due to a new Egg Move.

[DarkestLight]

I agree, which is why I nixed the IV thing. Too hard to influence. As for HP, oh hell naw Pory, that's too crazy.

[Poryhedron]

I'm probably shooting myself in the foot by trying for HP, but I honestly feel I need champ-level IVs in order to stand a chance against the rest of you.

[DarkestLight]

o.O I can tell you now, I don't breed for IV's, Natures, yeah. Movesets, definitely, but to hell with IV's. If it takes way too much math, I'm out of it. Still, good luck on that

[DarkestLight]

Update: Still haven't played HG much- will today for hours straight cause I got Jury Duty. Also will be breeding Phanpys w/ Ice Shard, screw Natures right now.

But oh no last night. Round 11:30 pm, I got home, saw I did 13K steps. grabbed that damn walker and spend the better part of 15 minutes until I GOT MY FLYCHU!!!

Now all I gotta do is find that Surf chu I got a while ago from Box or something like that, and I'm good. I got a Brave Flychu as well, so that's kinda cool.

Now my thing is, Surfchu appears with two exclamation marks? Cause I kept getting the fuggin Flailchu, which I really dun want in my life...-.-I already threw awAy like 20 of theM,

[Jeff]

2 is mostly Volt Takle or Flail, but the occasional Surf or Fly. 3 is always Surf or Fly.

[DarkestLight]

That was one out of every 30. Pfft screw that. Off to get my Carvanha and Spiritomb.

[DarkestLight]

Ok hey question. For the Pokewalker..do you have to get a certain amount of watts in one go, or is it tallied up. If its Tallied..my walker is busted then -.-

I ask cause I have about 20K watts on it..yet the last path I unlocked was Dim cave...this morning when I transferred a dude back into the game so I could get Winner's Path started.

[Blademaster]

I'm pretty sure it's tallied.

[Poryhedron]

The path after Dim Cave is Hoenn Field, isn't it? You can't unlock that until you have the National Dex. That's why the screen in Heart/Soul has stopped telling you the number of Watts you need to unlock the next course and instead just says "You can choose from among the many Courses" or something like that. Beat the Elite Four, grab the S.S. Ticket and meet Oak in Olivine; then you'll be able to unlock more courses.

[DarkestLight]

o.O...I dunno if you have been reading the "where I am in HG/SS" thread, but I'm "done" with HG Story wise. Only thing I haven't done is right the new E4 yet. So yeah, I'm wondering why the hell I'm not getting my steps.

In other news, Champ Path is pretty sweet. Got that Beldum, Karp and Duskull pretty quick. 3 Exclamation marks also comes around a lot more often too than in the Forest. First time training Gyarados n_N This'll be fun. I'll update with theory....

EDIT: Yeah. It unlocks them one at a time. I took 20 steps, uploaded the watt, and got the next route. I'm good now.