Pokemon RBY Speedrun

[Poryhedron]

I have to know. How did you catch Abra with only a Wartortle? I always need a pokémon with Wrap or Bind or a sleep move in order to get one; my usual method for using the Mew Trick in Cerulean City is to catch a Caterpie in Viridian Forest, raise it to Butterfree (Butterfree with Confusion can sweep Brock's Gym fairly easily) and make sure it learns Sleep Powder and Confusion by the time I reach Route 25. Even at a much higher level, Butterfree's Confusion is weak enough against Abra to weaken it without fainting it.

[DaBlackBandit]

I have to know. How did you catch Abra with only a Wartortle? I always need a pokémon with Wrap or Bind or a sleep move in order to get one; my usual method for using the Mew Trick in Cerulean City is to catch a Caterpie in Viridian Forest, raise it to Butterfree (Butterfree with Confusion can sweep Brock's Gym fairly easily) and make sure it learns Sleep Powder and Confusion by the time I reach Route 25. Even at a much higher level, Butterfree's Confusion is weak enough against Abra to weaken it without fainting it.

He used the UP , B trick. Cuz we know how well that works. LOL

[Master Kirby]

Up + B INKREESEZ TEH CAPTUR RATE!!!!!@!!11111

Hahahahaha! I remember when people used to say stuff like that. I used to tap A real fast just incase it helped the ball stay closed.

The pokeball capture probability is all about chance, so I just threw pokeballs until one worked on the first try (before the Abra could Teleport away) . With those lower level pokemon, I don't think you really need to weaken them much (if at all).

[Blademaster]

Up + B INKREESEZ TEH CAPTUR RATE!!!!!@!!11111

WTF L0L N0 T3H C4PTUR R4T3 1NCR34535 WH3N Y0U H0LD L 4ND R 4FT3R Y0U THR0W T3H BALL N00BZ0RZ!!!!!!1111oneoneleven

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OK, no it doesn't. Just felt like tossing that in.

Incidentally, I wanna try out this Speedrun, but I don't have Yellow anymore - the closest game I have to RBY is Fire Red. Could I use that up until the Elite Four? They are basically the same up to that point...

[mr_pikachu]

Well, I think you're dragged to the Sevii Islands for awhile... or am I remembering that wrong? It seems like you were required to complete some quest there before you could go from Cinnabar back to Viridian for the last Gym battle. If that's the case, I imagine it'd skew your time a bit.

[Master Kirby]

Incidentally, I wanna try out this Speedrun, but I don't have Yellow anymore - the closest game I have to RBY is Fire Red. Could I use that up until the Elite Four? They are basically the same up to that point...

Sure. You can use Fire Red if you want to. The comparison between end times might not be that accurate though since key game mechanics have been changed since the original RBY.

• Special has been split up into Special Attack and Special Defense.
• Pokemon have Abilities.
• You are able to get the Running Shoes.

Those changes affect the game more or less depending on how you use them. Some Pokemon have become better or worse due to the Special split. I guess since everyone has Abilities, any advantage you may have could be lessened based on the abilities your opponents have, so that shouldn't make that much of a difference. The only thing that jumps out at me as significantly changing the speed of the game would be the Running Shoes. As long as you don't get or use them, I guess it would take a similar amount of time to beat the game since the majority of things are still the same as the original.

It all comes down to the purpose of the game. To have Fun. I don't see a need to make a new topic in the Advanced Generation board when you can just post here. If you are trying to beat the game as quickly as possible, you probably will skip most of the extra features anyway. I think it would be fine if anyone with Fire Red or Leaf Green joined this challenge. It would be interesting to see how similar the times would be between generations.

[Poryhedron]

Kanto is a larger place in FR/LG. For example, a lot of narrow passages that were two spaces wide before are now three spaces wide. That means extra walking time...I wonder whether the Running Shoes reduce time more than the expanded land increases it.
Also, abilities definitely have an effect on time. It doesn't take as long for the game to say...

ROCKET sent out EKANS!
Go! PORYGON!

...as it does for the game to say...

ROCKET GRUNT sent out EKANS!
Go! PORYGON!
Foe EKANS's INTIMIDATE lowered PORYGON's ATTACK!
PORYGON TRACEd Foe EKANS' INTIMIDATE!

Fortunately most Special Abilities don't produce readouts right at the beginning of battle, but others have different ways of pointlessly wasting time.

[mr_pikachu]

The other modern adaptation that kills speed challenges is a Shell Beller with a multi-strike attack (Pin Missile, etc). Probably one of the most annoying things in the game, even if you're not in a hurry.